Re: Bug#195481: fragmented location info: hassle for users especially mobile ones

2003-05-30 Thread David Nusinow
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 02:16:50AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Uh, I'm not sure this is a good example. Hasn't shared/news/server > existed for years? Both the newsreaders I maintain use it and have done > so since at least May 2000 and December 2001 respectively. That template > name was already

Call for Linux Developers

2003-05-30 Thread Erik Winn
Hello, I have the distinct pleasure of being in the position to add two developers with strong linux (preferably Debian/GNU) and/or C/C++ experience. Some understanding of at least one of these areas will also be helpful: * embedded architectures * driver writing * video/audio proce

Bug#195481: fragmented location info: hassle for users especially mobile ones

2003-05-30 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 03:35:05PM -0600, Barak Pearlmutter wrote: > In other words, when I move my laptop I should be able to put in the > new lat/long and, assuming everything else is set up to default, all > these other things should be filled in with their most probably > values. Eg the neare

Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 03:34:50AM +0900, Akira TAGOH wrote: > > On Fri, 30 May 2003 17:25:15 +0200, > > "SR" == Sebastian Rittau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SR> Is there anything that multi-gnome-terminal can do that the current > SR> (GNOME 2) gnome-terminal cannot? Is there any point i

Re: Bug#195490: ITP: raptor -- a vertical shoot'em-up similar to Raptor: Call of the Shadows

2003-05-30 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 11:41:43PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > * Package name: raptor > Version : 1.0.0 > Upstream Author : Jon Rafkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://raptorv2.sourceforge.net/ > * License : probably GPL, see below > Description : a ve

Re: Bug#195481: fragmented location info: hassle for users especially mobile ones

2003-05-30 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 03:56:13PM -0700, David Nusinow wrote: > A few people were discussing the need for sharing of debconf templates > on #debian-devel on freenode the other day/night. The example that came > up at the time was for newsreaders, and how 10 different newsreaders > shouldn't all as

Bug#195489: ITP: hellcarrier -- a 2D shooter in topdown view

2003-05-30 Thread Sam Hocevar
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-30 Severity: wishlist * Package name: hellcarrier Version : 0 Upstream Author : Johan Peitz * URL : http://hellcarrier.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL, but see below Description : a 2D shooter in topdo

Bug#195490: ITP: raptor -- a vertical shoot'em-up similar to Raptor: Call of the Shadows

2003-05-30 Thread Sam Hocevar
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-30 Severity: wishlist * Package name: raptor Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Jon Rafkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://raptorv2.sourceforge.net/ * License : probably GPL, see below Description : a

Re: Bug#195481: fragmented location info: hassle for users especially mobile ones

2003-05-30 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 03:35:05PM -0600, Barak Pearlmutter wrote: > Right now, this stuff is easy to get inconsistent, and each one > requires effort to figure out. Some of them are even tricky to > change, or even to remember. > > It would be nice if these would *ALL* assume default values give

Bug#195481: fragmented location info: hassle for users especially mobile ones

2003-05-30 Thread Barak Pearlmutter
Package: general Severity: wishlist I'm not sure where to assign this, but ... there are too many packages in Debian that ask for your location or variants thereof, all in an uncoordinated fashion. To whit: time zone latitude/longitude (wmmoonclock, wmsun, various mapping programs) nearest IC

PAM messages on chrooted console

2003-05-30 Thread Ming Hua
I sent this to debian-user yesterday, but received no reply. Since developers are more likely to use chroot, I am sending this to debian-devel again. Apology to those who get duplicates. Hi, I am trying to run a chroot on my woody machine (so that I can try sid later). I set up the chroot envi

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 16:46, Josip Rodin wrote: > The (simple) responsibility of developers to contact other developers > whose packages they want to touch far outweighs the (harder) responsibility > of developers to track general discussion and/or news forums. This is > a de facto axiom of how De

Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Baruch Even
* Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030530 22:57]: > On pe, 2003-05-30 at 21:01, Baruch Even wrote: > > MGT is much more capable than gnome-terminal, > > I'm quite happy to believe that, but would you like to list some of the > capabilities it has that gnome-terminal doesn't so at to let the res

Re: Graphic program to manage alternatives

2003-05-30 Thread Fabio Rafael da Rosa
Great.. :) Its much better do integrate the tools, and your idea is very good. I adopted equivs package, and I am working to became a debian developer. Otavio is my sponsor.. Debconf idea is good, because with this, we can have lots of front-end instead of just graphical gtk2. I ll be glad to help

Re: X Strike Force SVN commit: rev 69 - branches/4.3.0/sid/debian

2003-05-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 04:59, Matthias Klose wrote: > As the g++ package, which makes 3.3 the default, entered testing > today, I files a report to build-essential to do this change, maybe > this needs to be reflected in policy as well. Does anyone have any objections to this change? (I doubt it,

Re: [debian-devel] Packages with i18n support disabled

2003-05-30 Thread Denis Barbier
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 10:56:32PM +0200, RĂ¼diger Kuhlmann wrote: > >--[Denis Barbier]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 11:39:09PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > > > Many thanks to those who replied, here is an updated list. > > Btw, did you also check for packages that don't conta

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 01:29:57PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > I saw all that, but none of that constitutes contacting the menu maintainer! > > If our menu maintainer hasn't watched debian-devel (or more prominently, > read DWN) for the last 10 months, then something is seriously wrong. The (

Re: Graphic program to manage alternatives

2003-05-30 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 04:51:03PM -0300, Fabio Rafael da Rosa wrote: > Hi.. Hello! > I am new here. My name is Fabio Rafael, but f2r is simple. > I'am writing a graphic gtk2 program to manage alternatives system (like > update-alternatives). My primary target was user who don't link console, > o

Graphic program to manage alternatives

2003-05-30 Thread Fabio Rafael da Rosa
Hi.. I am new here. My name is Fabio Rafael, but f2r is simple. I'am writing a graphic gtk2 program to manage alternatives system (like update-alternatives). My primary target was user who don't link console, or don't know how to use this. update-alternatives is simple, but some time can be trick

Re: appropriate use of /etc/alternatives

2003-05-30 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 02:25:48PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > I agree. A user should not have to concern themselves about which one > they are using. If the command name is the same, they better support the > same functionality. But they do support the same functionality, just on different format

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 15:00, Chris Cheney wrote: > What actual cases is this field used in? I don't think I recall seeing it > used before. Shouldn't the menu entry exist in the package it must have > installed (I suppose I could be missing something). The only use case I can think of is if you h

Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On pe, 2003-05-30 at 21:01, Baruch Even wrote: > MGT is much more capable than gnome-terminal, I'm quite happy to believe that, but would you like to list some of the capabilities it has that gnome-terminal doesn't so at to let the rest of us understand as well? (The list provided in a couple of

Re: appropriate use of /etc/alternatives

2003-05-30 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 02:29:42PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > I intend to package the xplot utility from xplot.org. This tool is > useful with the tcptrace package, which I maintain. However, there's > already an xplot package that installs /usr/bin/xplot. It's not > compatible with xplot.or

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-30 Thread Chris Cheney
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 09:59:57AM +0200, Morten Brix Pedersen wrote: > In implementing it, I have encountered some issues which I would appreciate > input on. > > 1) The sections that are normally used within the Category field in a .desktop > file isn't the same as with menu. Here I have decided

Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Akira TAGOH
> On Fri, 30 May 2003 17:25:15 +0200, > "SR" == Sebastian Rittau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SR> On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 12:00:13AM +0900, Akira TAGOH wrote: >> I'm orphaning multi-gnome-terminal package now, because I >> don't use it at this point, and I have no enough time to >> maintain

appropriate use of /etc/alternatives

2003-05-30 Thread Noah Meyerhans
I intend to package the xplot utility from xplot.org. This tool is useful with the tcptrace package, which I maintain. However, there's already an xplot package that installs /usr/bin/xplot. It's not compatible with xplot.org, but does essentially the same thing (plots data in X). I suggested t

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-30 Thread Chris Cheney
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 11:19:44AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030529 22:40]: > > Yes, it is our task to make it *consistent*. It shouldn't be our task > > to write menu entries from scratch, when upstreams can (and are) taking > > on the task. Our menu s

Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Baruch Even
MGT is much more capable than gnome-terminal, I prefer the power of MGT over gnome-terminal, and if no-one else will step in, I'd be willing to maintain MGT myself. I wouldn't think that any GNOME 1 program is obsolete. In this case MGT provides useful functionality and the fact that it's based on

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 03:59, Morten Brix Pedersen wrote: > I'm working on implementing the desktop menu specification for the menu > package > (the C++ version, not the "new" debmenu). I hope to have the first version > available within the next month. Awesome! > 1) The sections that are normal

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 05:43, Josip Rodin wrote: > I saw all that, but none of that constitutes contacting the menu maintainer! If our menu maintainer hasn't watched debian-devel (or more prominently, read DWN) for the last 10 months, then something is seriously wrong. http://www.debian.org/News/

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 05:19, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030529 22:40]: > > Yes, it is our task to make it *consistent*. It shouldn't be our task > > to write menu entries from scratch, when upstreams can (and are) taking > > on the task. Our menu system should

Re: Managing package sources with subversion?

2003-05-30 Thread Joey Hess
Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > I was looking for some pointers about managing package sources with > subversion. I've got a grasp of the basics and I have looked at a > couple of examples (most notably Branden's SVN repository for the > XFree86 packages). My main concern right now is migrating

Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Christian Surchi
> == > Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 17:25:15 +0200 > From: Sebastian Rittau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced > the GNOME Terminal > == > > Is there anything that multi-g

Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 12:00:13AM +0900, Akira TAGOH wrote: > I'm orphaning multi-gnome-terminal package now, because I > don't use it at this point, and I have no enough time to > maintain such package. presumably there might be the > appropriate DD than me to maintain this package. Is there an

Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-30 Thread Akira TAGOH
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I'm orphaning multi-gnome-terminal package now, because I don't use it at this point, and I have no enough time to maintain such package. presumably there might be the appropriate DD than me to maintain this package. Description is here: Multi Gnome Terminal is an

Re: Managing package sources with subversion?

2003-05-30 Thread Baruch Even
I know I've tried to keep packages in Subversion but the time stamps are not updated on export which caused problems with autoconf scripts for me. This bug is not expected to be solved for version 1.0 so I abandoned the idea for now. Baruch * Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030530 15:02

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 06:32:22PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > It's very nice to see that the rest of the world has been kind enough > > not to tell anything about deploying this to our menu system maintainer. :P > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200207/msg00815.html >

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-30 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 10:46:05AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > * Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-28 15:26]: > > - Icons are no more required to use 24 colors in cmap.xpm. See > > > > for explanations. >

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-30 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Morten Brix Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030530 11:07]: > 2) The current menu files use a "needs" field to designate whether the > application uses console or X11 (e.g. needs="text"). In our .desktop > files, this field will be named X-Menu-Needs and will only be required > for non-X11 applicati

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-30 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030529 22:40]: > Yes, it is our task to make it *consistent*. It shouldn't be our task > to write menu entries from scratch, when upstreams can (and are) taking > on the task. Our menu system should accept .desktop files, and ideally > process them natively.

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-30 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-28 15:26]: > - Icons are no more required to use 24 colors in cmap.xpm. See > > for explanations. I fail to see what this thread about "maybe say that programs that outp

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-30 Thread Morten Brix Pedersen
* Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-29-05 18:32:22]: > On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 16:22, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > It's very nice to see that the rest of the world has been kind enough > > not to tell anything about deploying this to our menu system maintainer. :P > > http://lists.debian.org/debia

Re: LDAP adduser/deluser

2003-05-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, 27 May 2003, Zed Pobre wrote: > > > > Could you elaborate on what ways yours works better than the original > > > > adduser? I'm sure Roland would love to hear about functionality > > > > improvements, and I'd certainly be keen for any improvements to the > > > > LDAP-specific code... > >

Re: Bug#195309: ITP: jools -- graphical pattern-matching puzzle game

2003-05-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 01:41, Niklas Vainio wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion, I will use your description. But I think we > shouldn't say "like Tetris". This game belongs to same genre with Tetris but > the idea is different. The author says "in the tradition of Tetris". > Suggestions? That soun

Re: Bug#195309: ITP: jools -- graphical pattern-matching puzzle game

2003-05-30 Thread Niklas Vainio
Colin Walters suggested: >The description synopsis should be a full sentence. Also there is no >need to repeat the package name, since package user agents will display >it alongside the synopsis. I suggest: > >Description: a pattern matching game like Tetris > Jools is a game where the goal is to

Re: Bug#190302: Misusage of changelog!

2003-05-30 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 09:15:36AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Do you know of any instance where spam has actually opened a bug report? Well, no, but cut me some slack; I was railing against stupidity. ;-) -- G. Branden Robinson| There's nothing an agnostic can't Debian GNU