Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 06:32:26PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > It's not noise at all when it's something that we and others (desperately!) > want to know about. Then read through the prepatch diffs, everything adding checks to ioctl methods or similar is likely one them.

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 08:10:20PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > in task_struct then perhaps so assuming that we care about it enough to do > > it in such a way. Otherwise I don't see your point. > > Are task_struct and mm_struct exposed to modules? Yes. > they should need to be, but I am no

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 01:51:05AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > SuSE don't have a single kernel source either. They have a set of > a few hundred common patches plus some more patches (e.g. 200 > for s390) that are used only for one architecture, usually both 32 and > 64 bit. Single patches can b

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 09:57:50PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: > PS. Personally, I would prefer to travel for a DebConf in > Cuba than in US. Really. Who wouldn't? You got the sun, the beaches and the ocean... what more could you ask for than a debconf on a beach? -- Duncan Findlay pgpeaqvWUV3fv.p

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread Adam Majer
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 07:46:53PM -0400, Geordie Birch wrote: > On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 03:32:57AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > > > For avoiding entering the US there are better reasons such as the following: > > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1689.htm > > May 20, 2003. Fren

Re: Bug#194515: ITP: debdivert -- Debian packaging aid to create patch packages

2003-05-24 Thread Masato Taruishi
> On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 05:37:31PM +0900, Masato Taruishi wrote: > > > > Masato Taruishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ah, the main point of this package is to create a local ad-hoc package > > > > which can coexist with its official package. Escpecially, I can manage > > > > my temporary o

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Herbert Xu
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In general, this is not a problem. The exception is coordinated disclosure, > where it is important that fixes be available for all architectures in order > to minimize exposure. In those cases, it would be helpful to coordinate > with all of the ker

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Herbert Xu
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 07:37:10AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: >> >> How does this automate the arch-specific merges where conflicts arise? > > 1. unpack pristine kernel source > 2. apply Debian patch > 3. dry-run arch-specific patch > 4. if no conflicts,

Re: ITP: firehol -- a powerful and easy to use firewall configuration system

2003-05-24 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Florian Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Package: wnpp > Version: N/A; reported 2003-01-13 > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: firehol There was no further activity on this ITP. I've packaged FireHOL myself, found a sponsor and mailed Florian 3 weeks ago [1]. If there is no answer in

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Arnd Bergmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why can't Debian have just one tree for multiple architectures like > > SuSE and RedHat (sometimes) do. Okay suse supports 'only' i386, > > x86_64,ppc,ppc64,s390,s390x,ia64 but their kernel also has p

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 07:58:09AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By 'independent packages', do you mean that we should have separate > > kernel-source source packages for each architecture? This would seem to > > be a step backward. > > No, they are ind

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread Geordie Birch
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 03:32:57AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > For avoiding entering the US there are better reasons such as the following: > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1689.htm May 20, 2003. French reporters covering Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) arrested, forcibl

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Sun, May 25, 2003, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > > What are other developers' feelings on the matter these days? > > I would rather not come. Neither would I. Given what happened to Sklyarov, I don't fancy going to the USA at all. And like many others, I won't object, I merely won't attend. Sa

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Aaron M. Ucko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030519 04:26]: > What are other developers' feelings on the matter these days? I would rather not come.

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 07:37:10AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Given an explicit kernel-patch-debian, containing architecture-agnostic > > differences between kernel.org source and Debian's kernel source, > > arch-specific merges could be mostly au

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 08:44:26PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 01:42:22PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > So this means that maintainers of the architecture patches must be sure > > to merge in these fixes, otherwise they may inherit security > > vulnerabilities (for ex

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 08:42:39PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 02:34:17PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > What benefit is there in not announcing these problems? Security > > through obscurity? How can we inform our users of their exposure when > > we are not infor

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Herbert Xu
Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why can't Debian have just one tree for multiple architectures like > SuSE and RedHat (sometimes) do. Okay suse supports 'only' i386, > x86_64,ppc,ppc64,s390,s390x,ia64 but their kernel also has patches > for sparc,sparc64,mips and m68k although I

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Herbert Xu
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think that we can live with multiple source packages given a little bit of > infrastructure which more closely follows the way that kernel development > happens. We need to be able to introduce specific patches to all of our > kernels while minimizi

Re: stunnel

2003-05-24 Thread Julien LEMOINE
Hello, I created a new package for stunnel 4, it is available at : http://people.debian.org/~speedblue/stunnel/ I will wait a little before take over the package. Best Regards. -- Julien LEMOINE / SpeedBlue pgpNIXSuf9fJZ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Herbert Xu
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Given an explicit kernel-patch-debian, containing architecture-agnostic > differences between kernel.org source and Debian's kernel source, > arch-specific merges could be mostly automated, and security fixes could be > made in one place. How does thi

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD votetallying

2003-05-24 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Manoj said: >Oh, as a sponsor of the GR, I suppose I should clarify that I > am not going to accept this amendment; I consider it a bad one. This > makes our vote method fail the monoticity criteria > (http://www.electionmethods.org/evaluation.htm). See Scenario 2 below. > > >I'll

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 04:29:13AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2003 04:18, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 07:55:08PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > > Some m68k architectures might be a hard, I agree. But having a package > > > that works on as many machine

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 11:37:09AM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > Guido, you're not going about it the right way. It's a three-way > merge. You take a kernel.org tree, diff it against the architecture > tree that you're interested in, and then wiggle it into applying to the > kernel source pac

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Guido Guenther
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 01:42:22PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > So this means that maintainers of the architecture patches must be sure to > merge in these fixes, otherwise they may inherit security vulnerabilities > (for example)? How can we track when this has happened when there are so > many

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 02:34:17PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > What benefit is there in not announcing these problems? Security through > obscurity? How can we inform our users of their exposure when we are not > informed ourselves about security problems? Noise. You can's accnounce every po

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't assume that everyone agrees, just the 49.X% that voted for him. This figure is not as meaningful as it might seem; we still use a non-preferential voting system, in which votes for non-mainstream candidates are effectively wasted. :-/ > The mos

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 25 May 2003 04:18, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 07:55:08PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > Some m68k architectures might be a hard, I agree. But having a package > > that works on as many machines as possible would be very cool. > > well, I there is a shared debian-

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 08:18:40PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 07:55:08PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > Some m68k architectures might be a hard, I agree. But having a package > > that works on as many machines as possible would be very cool. > > well, I there is

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Guido Guenther
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 11:37:09AM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > Guido, you're not going about it the right way. It's a three-way > merge. You take a kernel.org tree, diff it against the architecture > tree that you're interested in, and then wiggle it into applying to the > kernel source pac

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 09:20:28PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > So unless someone can come up with a solution to this problem, > we will have to live with multiple Debian source packages for now. > > This does make security fixes more difficult than it would be otherwise, > however, I do not think

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 07:51:17PM +0200, Karsten Merker wrote: > Because it simply did not work out - not all architectures are in sync with > Linus' tree Oh, I know that well enough. > and if I understood "our" port maintainer correctly, there are > some architecture-specific things Linus does

Re: ITP: pyblosxom -- simple weblog ("blog") written in Python

2003-05-24 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, 2003-05-24 at 11:52, Joe Drew wrote: > On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 03:28 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > > Pyblosxom is so-named because it was inspired by the blosxom package. > > Does pyblosxom offer any features which blosxom proper doesn't? Plugins, sane code, xmlrpc support, different

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 07:55:08PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > Some m68k architectures might be a hard, I agree. But having a package > that works on as many machines as possible would be very cool. well, I there is a shared debian-kernel cvs then all architecture maintainers can commit, a

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 01:25:38PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > Sure, it's more work but I think it's worth it. > > Because no one's done it? Hey, if that was an argument. The question is whether people want it.. > We can't count on it because the architecture ports become available at >

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-24 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sat, 24 May 2003 06:11:18 -0400, David B Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > On Sat, 24 May 2003 10:19:38 +0200 > Enrico Zini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.debian.org/devel/, "Projects" section: > > > > > > * Debian Web Pages > > [...] > > > * Alioth: Debian GForge > >

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 25 May 2003 02:24, Ed Cogburn wrote: > >>Well, didn't work that way last time... > > > > They got their second choice. > > I never chose Little Napolean and he wasn't on my alternate list either. Something between 49% and 50% of US voters wanted the Shrub as president. > Please stop ass

Re: Bug#194515: ITP: debdivert -- Debian packaging aid to create patch packages

2003-05-24 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 05:37:31PM +0900, Masato Taruishi wrote: > > Masato Taruishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ah, the main point of this package is to create a local ad-hoc package > > > which can coexist with its official package. Escpecially, I can manage > > > my temporary on-going impr

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 11:37:09AM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > Guido, you're not going about it the right way. It's a three-way merge. > You take a kernel.org tree, diff it against the architecture tree that > you're interested in, and then wiggle it into applying to the kernel > source pac

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 07:03:22PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 11:37:09AM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > Guido, you're not going about it the right way. It's a three-way > > merge. You take a kernel.org tree, diff it against the architecture > > tree that you're

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 09:24:16PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Guido Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It's very hard to get these bug fixes anyway since when I do a > > _complete_ diff between kernel-source-2.X.Y in the archive and the > > kernel source for architecture foo I'll _always_

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-24 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 09:48:02PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > > On Sat, 24 May 2003, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > > > The script can't even get everything a Debian Developer does for Debian. > > > While most, if not all, active Debian Developers do pac

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 11:37:09AM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > Guido, you're not going about it the right way. It's a three-way > merge. You take a kernel.org tree, diff it against the architecture > tree that you're interested in, and then wiggle it into applying to the > kernel source pac

debconfig: package description

2003-05-24 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hello, from time to time, especially while upgrading a lot of packages I notice debconfig questions for packages I do not know. This is of course quite likely given the size of debian archive and the fact, that task packages introduce a lot of packages one has not selected explecitely. Some of th

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread Ed Cogburn
Russell Coker wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2003 09:51, Alan Shutko wrote: The citizens of the US have a little more power than the rest of the world, in that you have a *vote* as to who gets to fuck the rest of the world. Well, didn't work that way last time... They got their second choice. I never chos

Re: Bug#189825: roxen: depend on newer pike 7.4 ?

2003-05-24 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting Laurent Bonnaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Either upgrade to Roxen 2.1 > > OK. I upgraded to the latest roxen2 package in sid. Now I have another > question: would it be possible to update roxen to depend on pike7.4 > instead of pike7 ? Same answer. Roxen 2.1 won't work with pike 7.4... I'

Re: ITP: pyblosxom -- simple weblog ("blog") written in Python

2003-05-24 Thread Joe Drew
On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 03:28 AM, Colin Walters wrote: Pyblosxom is so-named because it was inspired by the blosxom package. Does pyblosxom offer any features which blosxom proper doesn't?

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 04:06:30PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 09:24:16PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > > OK, barring any major objections, that's how it will be for 2.4.21. > > I will make kernel-source-2.4.21 be identical to the upstream tar ball > > except for the non-fre

Re: Bug#194515: ITP: debdivert -- Debian packaging aid to create patch packages

2003-05-24 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I still don't get why you wouldn't simply generate a modified version > and install it _instead_ of the original package, unless foo also > include a switch-debdivert-foo package that enables to choose to > switch to officila package faster than 'dpkg

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-24 Thread Paul Seelig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Petter Reinholdtsen) writes: > [Tollef Fog Heen] > > So, why do you think having a more even distribution is a good > > thing? > > Because in Debian there is a few people with high "load" in debian, > and many with less "load". > I think this is the wrong way to see it. Since

Bug#194550: ITP: libemail-mime-encodings-perl -- A unified interface to MIME encoding and decoding

2003-05-24 Thread Kai Henningsen
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-05-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libemail-mime-encodings-perl Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/S/SI/SIMON/Email-MIME-Encodings-1.0.tar.gz * License

Bug#194548: ITP: libemail-localdelivery-perl -- Deliver a piece of email - simply

2003-05-24 Thread Kai Henningsen
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-05-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libemail-localdelivery-perl Version : 0.04 Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/S/SI/SIMON/Email-LocalDelivery-0.04.tar.gz * License

Bug#194547: ITP: libemail-filter-perl -- Library for creating easy email filters

2003-05-24 Thread Kai Henningsen
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-05-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libemail-filter-perl Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/S/SI/SIMON/Email-Filter-1.0.tar.gz * License : Same as Perl.

Bug#194546: ITP: libemail-simple-perl -- Email handling. Simply.

2003-05-24 Thread Kai Henningsen
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-05-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libemail-simple-perl Version : 1.4 Upstream Author : Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/R/RC/RCLAMP/Email-Simple-1.4.tar.gz * License

Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-24 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Jesus Climent wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:47:52PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: > > > >* New Upstream Version (closes: #176227, #188308, #90276) > > > > > > Changelog abuse. This is only a valid entry if all 3 of t

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 01:58:31PM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > > > Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website > > > and many others[1] aren't? > > > > You're on crack. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-desktop/ > > > > It's hard to discern useful information when you start out by sho

Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-24 Thread Jesus Climent
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:47:52PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: > > >* New Upstream Version (closes: #176227, #188308, #90276) > > > > Changelog abuse. This is only a valid entry if all 3 of these bugs were > > requests for a ne

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Guido Guenther
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 09:24:16PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > OK, barring any major objections, that's how it will be for 2.4.21. > I will make kernel-source-2.4.21 be identical to the upstream tar ball > except for the non-free bits. A kernel-patch-i386 package will be > introduced. You won't her

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread Bob Hilliard
Please take all of these political screeds off -devel!! Regards. Bob -- _ |_) _ |_Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palm City, FL 34990 USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-24 Thread John Hasler
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Because in Debian there is a few people with high "load" in debian, > and many with less "load". People with high load are more likely to > burn out and disappear. Do you have statistics to support that statement? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancin

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-24 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 11:25:03PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sat, 24 May 2003 22:15, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > Because in Debian there is a few people with high "load" in debian, > > and many with less "load". People with high load are more likely to > > burn out and disappear. It is

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-24 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 24 May 2003 22:15, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Because in Debian there is a few people with high "load" in debian, > and many with less "load". People with high load are more likely to > burn out and disappear. It is thus better to have more people with > less load. > > Of course, the pa

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-24 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 09:48:02PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Sat, 24 May 2003, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > The script can't even get everything a Debian Developer does for Debian. > > While most, if not all, active Debian Developers do packaging work, > > there's other stuff to be done -- suc

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-24 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Tollef Fog Heen] > So, why do you think having a more even distribution is a good > thing? Because in Debian there is a few people with high "load" in debian, and many with less "load". People with high load are more likely to burn out and disappear. It is thus better to have more people with l

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Herbert Xu
Guido Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's very hard to get these bug fixes anyway since when I do a > _complete_ diff between kernel-source-2.X.Y in the archive and the > kernel source for architecture foo I'll _always_ (accidentally) > pull out all the bug fixes you made. Only diffing spe

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Petter Reinholdtsen | [James Troup] | > Tor Slettnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | I forwarded this email to his other address, which I came across in a | mail from a common friend of our. I've recently mailed with him, and for the time being, he is out of time for doing Debian work. -- Tollef Fo

Re: Bug#194155: ITP: ehnt -- Extreme Happy Netflow Tool - Obtains useful information out of netflow data

2003-05-24 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 21 May 2003 21:40:04 +1000, Craig small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The flow reports come out in text and >show flow summaries (such as top n ASes, protocols, etc per m minutes). >NetFlow is a packet protocol that is used by routers such as Cisco and >Juniper. Is there any tool that enable

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-24 Thread Enrico Zini
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 10:28:19AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > The rules are quite simple: is there someone willing to write those > pages ? I have this very same problem for DebianEdu, if I want a page on > www.debian.org I have to prepare it but I have no time for that. I also > don't have a

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-24 Thread David B Harris
On Sat, 24 May 2003 10:19:38 +0200 Enrico Zini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.debian.org/devel/, "Projects" section: > > > > * Debian Web Pages > [...] > > * Alioth: Debian GForge > > Certainly seems that they're listed. > > The Debian Usability Research seems to be missing: >

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread René Seindal
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:55:31PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: > This doesn't mean that we should not have a > Debian conference in North America. I'm sure there are many North > American DDs who'd like to meet more DDs in person. Having a > conference in the US or Canada is not an endorsement of

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-24 Thread Guido Guenther
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 08:44:48AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Guido Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This only works if we have a _clean_ kernel-source-2.X.Y package. One of > > the reasons why maintaining kernel-patch-2.X.Y- packages is such a > > pain is the asymmetry between i386 and

Re: What makes a debconf?

2003-05-24 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Joe Drew ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030524 01:11]: > It's not entirely clear to me what makes Debconf into 'the' Debian > conference. For example, if this conference in the US ends up > happening, what's to say it isn't Debconf 3? The defining > characteristics, so far as I can define them, are that

Re: Bug#194515: ITP: debdivert -- Debian packaging aid to create patch packages

2003-05-24 Thread Andreas Metzler
David B Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 24 May 2003 15:40:08 +0900 > Masato Taruishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ah, the main point of this package is to create a local ad-hoc package >> which can coexist with its official package. Escpecially, I can manage >> my temporary on-going improve

Re: Bug#194515: ITP: debdivert -- Debian packaging aid to create patch packages

2003-05-24 Thread Masato Taruishi
> Masato Taruishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ah, the main point of this package is to create a local ad-hoc package > > which can coexist with its official package. Escpecially, I can manage > > my temporary on-going improvement to some debian package as a debian > > package. I didn't think to

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-24 Thread Enrico Zini
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 09:55:33PM -0400, David B Harris wrote: > http://www.debian.org/devel/, "Projects" section: > > * Debian Web Pages [...] > * Alioth: Debian GForge > Certainly seems that they're listed. The Debian Usability Research seems to be missing: http://deb-usability.alioth

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-24 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:22:08PM -0300, Gustavo Franco écrivait: > You didn't understand my affirmation.Debian Desktop is on www.debian.org > and many others aren't there, for example: "Mono for Debian" and "ipv6". > What are the rules to be there? AFAIK, there are no documented rules. The rules

Re: Bug#194515: ITP: debdivert -- Debian packaging aid to create patch packages

2003-05-24 Thread David B Harris
On 24 May 2003 15:40:08 +0900 Masato Taruishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, the main point of this package is to create a local ad-hoc package > which can coexist with its official package. Escpecially, I can manage > my temporary on-going improvement to some debian package as a debian > package

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-24 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[James Troup] > Tor Slettnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I forwarded this email to his other address, which I came across in a mail from a common friend of our.

ITP: pyblosxom -- simple weblog ("blog") written in Python

2003-05-24 Thread Colin Walters
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: pyblosxom Version : 0.7beta1-1 Upstream Author : Wari Wahab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://roughingit.subtlehints.net/pyblosxom/ * License : Python Description :

Re: What makes a debconf?

2003-05-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 10:02:42PM -0400, David B Harris wrote: > The problem is that people who can get expenses reimbursed need to have > a focus. Sponsors need to have a focus. There needs to be a "major" > conference for these kinds of things; in other words, it has to be > billed as something

Re: Bug#194515: ITP: debdivert -- Debian packaging aid to create patch packages

2003-05-24 Thread Masato Taruishi
2003$BG/(B05$B7n(B24$BF|(B(?)$B$N(B14$B;~(B32$BJ,$K(B Adam Heath $B[)$/(B: (B (B> > Package: wnpp (B> > Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-24 (B> > Severity: wishlist (B> > (B> > * Package name: debdivert (B> > License : GPL (B> > Description : Debian

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 06:15:48PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Now that you've got this release out, have you given any thought to the > message I sent earlier about merging gdb server versions? Kindly get this on-topic shit out of this off-topic thread. ;-) -- G. Branden Robinson

Menu's 24 color policy (was: apt-listchanges output for beterraba.horta)

2003-05-24 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Hello! Does this mean that the, IMHO brain-dead, 24-color limit has been droped? >From menu's changelog: > * No more require icons to use the colors from cmap.xpm. > Closes:#193231, #175430, #192218, #97080 > * No more install cmap.xpm. Closes:#172092 []s! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gustav

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-24 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 03:14:48PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > My only objection to a conference in the US is the weather is miserable. > I want to go somewhere warm! Debian MiniConf @ Linux.conf.au, January 2004. http://conf.linux.org.au/. Speakers lined up for the main conference (which te

Re: What makes a debconf?

2003-05-24 Thread Brian May
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:25:29PM -0400, Joe Drew wrote: > Do we need some method of deciding what constitutes 'the' Debconf? No, as everyone knows that the only true "Debconf" are the ones in Australia, with LCA. ;-). -- Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#194515: ITP: debdivert -- Debian packaging aid to create patch packages

2003-05-24 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Masato Taruishi wrote: > Package: wnpp > Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-24 > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: debdivert > * URL : http://www.some.org/ > License : GPL > Description : Debian packaging aid to create patch packages >

Bug#194515: ITP: debdivert -- Debian packaging aid to create patch packages

2003-05-24 Thread Masato Taruishi
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: debdivert * URL : http://www.some.org/ License : GPL Description : Debian packaging aid to create patch packages This package aims to create packages which replace files of