Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:38:10AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > We use telnet here because this is a diverse university network; we > can't force people to run ssh and any moron could go root on this > machine if he really wanted to. why not? the most you'd have to do is put up a single w

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
Eray Ozkural wrote: > About having telnet enabled: everybody on the campus knows how to use telnet > but would be very surprised I didn't let them connect easily from windows > clients. For me, using telnet is of course a bit insecure but when I'm > not able to use an ssh client... it's easier. We

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > There IS a debconf question about it.. it's not like it just does it to you > > without asking. Maybe the debconf priority of the question is too low if > > too many people are missing it. > Do you think this is also what p

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread exa
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 08:25:54PM -0800, Aaron Lehmann wrote: > Debian has always exhibited this behavior for me. There's a simple > workaround: don't log in as root. > > I don't know which is more distasteful: That you have telnet enabled, or > that you have enabled remote root logins via telnet

ITP w3mir

2001-01-06 Thread John Goerzen
This package was originally yanked from Debian because its maintainer was so inattentive that he didn't apply a known patch to fix a serious data-loss bug. I care enough to maintain it to bring it back, and intend to do so. -- John -- John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.c

Re: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 05:20:42PM +0200, Eray 'exa' Ozkural wrote: > Package: xserver-xfree86 > Version: 4.0.1-9 > Severity: important I am so sick of bug reports being CC'd to debian-devel. That's what debian-bugs-dist is for. They get mailed to the maintainer anyway, which may be someone who ac

Re: Obsolete software in /usr/local

2001-01-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:14:42PM +1100, Peter Eckersley wrote: > That doesn't seem like an elegant explanation. Wouldn't it make more > sense to have a script to make sure that a Debian package hasn't got > links to whacky non-standard libraries? > > The current behaviour is rather non-intuitiv

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 12:53:14PM +1100, Drake Diedrich wrote: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:43:39AM +1100, Sam Couter wrote: > > > > A deb plugin would be better. :) > >One problem with a deb plugin is that .debs are signed in compressed > form. gzip isn't guaranteed to produce the same co

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:38:10AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > > Then, read /etc/login.defs. Note the values of the ENV_PATH and ENV_SUPATH > > options. These are used by login(1) and su(1). Test login(1) and su(1) and > > make sure they are doing what you expect. If they aren't, find o

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 12:04:14AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet borg > Trying 139.179.21.143... > Connected to borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr. > Escape character is '^]'. > Debian GNU/Linux woody borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr > login: root > Password: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# echo

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-06 Thread John Goerzen
It is "unstable". Get over it. *PLONK*

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 12:01:42PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Despite the inappropriate manner in which this is being reported (and > > despite > > having nothing to do with the bug that was actually filed), it's true that > > we > > won't want

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:33:46AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > There IS a debconf question about it.. it's not like it just does it to you > > without asking. Maybe the debconf priority of the question is too low if > > too many people are missing it. > > Do you th

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:34:04PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > > If you call your insults to another contributor to debian "deserved rant", > > then I'd think you are either misinterpreting your status or unaware of > > any social skills. > > I'm sorry, WHO is mis

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > There IS a debconf question about it.. it's not like it just does it to you > without asking. Maybe the debconf priority of the question is too low if > too many people are missing it. Do you think this is also what prevented display managers (xdm, gdm, wings are the ones t

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
"Oliver M . Bolzer" wrote: > > You are still not getting it, arn`t you? It is not about the content at atll, > is about quoting PRIVATE mail in PUBLIC places without asking FIRST. Sorry > for shouting, but this has to be said. > Yes, I am getting it. But I'd always thought that content did matte

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-06 Thread Peter Eckersley
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 04:12:54AM +0100, Mathias Gygax wrote: > On Sam, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:52:17 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > I'll try and make the next version do what you > > require. > > well it's not necessary, but what about a boot message like: > > > __

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 03:28:46AM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > "tar -xIvvf file.tar.bz2" has been in use under linux for over a year > by pretty much everybody. Even if the author never released it as > stable, all linux distributions did it. I think that should count > something. It tells a

Re: Obsolete software in /usr/local

2001-01-06 Thread Peter Eckersley
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 08:23:29PM -0400, Ben Armstrong wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 03:49:07PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote: > > I've been meaning to bring this up for a while: > > Why on earth was this change ever made? > > I can't speak for whoever made the change, but I suspect that it is > be

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Hi Matt!! I don't report a bug due to misconfiguration. Let's see if what you see applies, though. Matt Zimmerman wrote: > First, "man su" to find out where su(1) is getting its environment from. > Searching for 'environment' on that man page, you can find this: > >The current environm

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:32:23AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > Fortunately, Eray, we're not all here for your amusement. > > I'm not addressing you Hamish. In all of our exchanges, there have > always been a dose of respect. If outside comment is unwelcome, why po

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 07:48:58PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: > > Such primitive reaction of yours is not likely to arouse interest > > in prospective contributors; to join debian and to work with people > > like you. > > Fortunately, Eray, we're not all here for your am

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-06 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Sam Couter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> PS: Why not change the Solaris version to be compatible with >> the widely used linux version? I'm sure there are more people >> and tools out there for linux using -I then

Re: Random X crashes

2001-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 12:07:15AM +0100, Artur Guja wrote: > A strange problem, which occurs both on my Aristo FT-8400 and my desktop > Athlon 700 systems. The XFree 4.0 starts up fine (I even got the mouse going > nice and smooth) and works fine, sometimes even for hours at a time. > However, eve

Re: update excuses.. how to read them

2001-01-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:05:57AM +0100, Paul Slootman wrote: > The same seems to be the problem with the following: > * jed-ja 0.99.10.jp0-3 (currently 0.98.7.j055-2) (low) > + out of date on alpha: jed-sl-ja (from 0.98.7.j055-2) > + out of date on arm: jed-sl-ja (from 0.

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 07:48:58PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: > Such primitive reaction of yours is not likely to arouse interest > in prospective contributors; to join debian and to work with people > like you. Fortunately, Eray, we're not all here for your amusement. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 12:01:42PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > Despite the inappropriate manner in which this is being reported (and despite > having nothing to do with the bug that was actually filed), it's true that we > won't want people upgrading from potato to woody to be caught unawares b

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:34:04PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > If you call your insults to another contributor to debian "deserved rant", > then I'd think you are either misinterpreting your status or unaware of > any social skills. I'm sorry, WHO is misinterpeting their status? Hamish --

Re: What to do about /etc/mtab

2001-01-06 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == s Lichtmaier writes: >> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp>mount -o loop foo 1 > Why dont we just >> patch mount to use /var/run/mtab? > I dont know about any >> other program which modifies it. >> >> because /var is not always on the same partition as / > /etc/mt

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-06 Thread Drake Diedrich
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:43:39AM +1100, Sam Couter wrote: > > A deb plugin would be better. :) One problem with a deb plugin is that .debs are signed in compressed form. gzip isn't guaranteed to produce the same compressed file from identical uncompressed files on different architectures an

Re: useradd problem(!)

2001-01-06 Thread Sven Burgener
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 05:44:04PM +, Malcolm Parsons wrote: > useradd and adduser are two different programs from two different pacakges, > the configuration of one does not affect the other: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -S /usr/sbin/useradd > passwd: /usr/sbin/useradd > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Re: ITA gnucash?

2001-01-06 Thread John Goerzen
Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just want to ask if somebody knows if the maintainer is still > active. Gnucash have now quite a lot of bugs and there is a new I am here. Had you cared enough to look at the bug report summary for me, you would see that I am closing bugs as well; th

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-06 Thread Brian May
> "Sam" == Sam Couter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sam> Andrew Stribblehill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Doesn't gzip have a --rsync option, or somesuch? Apparently >> Andrew Tridgell (Samba, Rsync) has a patch to do this, but I >> don't know whether he passed it onto the gzip

Re: Fatal problems with dpkg<->dpkg-deb communication in 1.8.1

2001-01-06 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Colin Watson wrote: > When I installed dpkg 1.8.1 at work a few hours ago I couldn't install > any packages with it; while unpacking, it got EAGAIN when trying to read > from its pipe to dpkg-deb, and then segfaulted. This was in > lib/mlib.c:buffer_read() and lib/mlib.c:buffer

Re: LILO 21.6-2

2001-01-06 Thread Brian May
> "Manoj" == Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Manoj> Why is it that posting to a public forum is seen as a Manoj> superior method compared to actually reading manual pages? Manoj> Here are excerpts from two man pages that show the extents Manoj> of the configu

WNPP VCDImager: VideoCD Image Maker

2001-01-06 Thread Gregory Stark
http://www.hvrlab.org/~hvr/vcdimager/ > VCDImager is a "little" program which allows direct making of VideoCD > BIN/CUE CD images from mpeg files, which can be played on standalone VCD > players or DVD players and on computers running Linux, MacOS, Win32 or any > other OS capable of accessing VCD

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-06 Thread Sam Couter
Andrew Stribblehill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Doesn't gzip have a --rsync option, or somesuch? Apparently Andrew > Tridgell (Samba, Rsync) has a patch to do this, but I don't know > whether he passed it onto the gzip maintainers. I like the idea of having plugins for rsync to handle differen

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Erik" == Erik Hollensbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Erik> I don't quite get this... This list is moderated. What in heavens name leads you to this conclusion? manoj -- Entreprenuer, n.: A high-rolling risk taker who would rather be a spectacular failure than a dismal succ

Re: LILO 21.6-2

2001-01-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> Somebody else recently said that kernel-image packages no longer Brian> maintain these symlinks (at least that was my understanding). Brian> (or perhaps it is now a user configurable item?) Why is it that posting to a public fo

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-06 Thread Sam Couter
> On 2001-01-05, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What do large packages have to do with the size of the index file, > > Packages? Andreas Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They waste one byte per multiple of 10 bytes of package size. (-; You mean one byte per order of magnitude of packa

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-06 Thread Sam Couter
Goswin Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PS: Why not change the Solaris version to be compatible with the widely used > linux version? I'm sure there are more people and tools out there for linux > using -I then there are for solaris. This is an incredibly Linux-centric point of view. You s

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Bud Rogers
On Saturday 06 January 2001 16:07, Oliver M . Bolzer wrote: > Legally, you might be allowed to (fair-use) quote private mail sent > to you as one end of the communication pipe, but we are talking > netiquette here. Really, it is not yours to decide wheter it is wrong > or not to make that mail pub

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-06 Thread Sven Burgener
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 07:02:47PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > i would recommend the use of either testing or unstable or stable > depending upon the particular requirements of the situation. > > stable is good when you don't need or want any change at all. > > testing is good when you want/nee

Re: Obsolete software in /usr/local

2001-01-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 03:49:07PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote: > I've been meaning to bring this up for a while: > Why on earth was this change ever made? I can't speak for whoever made the change, but I suspect that it is because LD_LIBRARY_PATH can be used to support libraries in /usr/local/lib fo

Re: update excuses.. how to read them

2001-01-06 Thread Paul Slootman
On Sat 23 Dec 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Since libadns0 and libadns0-dev seem to be out of date on all architectures, > it probably means they're not being built anymore, and need to be removed > from unstable. Whether there are up to date bins on an arch is more just > to give a hint at what

Fatal problems with dpkg<->dpkg-deb communication in 1.8.1

2001-01-06 Thread Colin Watson
When I installed dpkg 1.8.1 at work a few hours ago I couldn't install any packages with it; while unpacking, it got EAGAIN when trying to read from its pipe to dpkg-deb, and then segfaulted. This was in lib/mlib.c:buffer_read() and lib/mlib.c:buffer_copy() at least, which at the moment tolerate EI

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 12:04:14AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > This is how it looks like > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet borg > Trying 139.179.21.143... > Connected to borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr. > Escape character is '^]'. > Debian GNU/Linux woody borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr > login: root > Passwo

Compiling 2.0.38 kernel

2001-01-06 Thread Chris L. Mason
Hi, I am running the latest sid and I'm trying to compile a custom 2.0.38 kernel for use with smalllinux on an ancient PS/2 386 with 4 megs of RAM. (The default won't do because it doesn't have support for ESDI drives.) Anyway, I'm running into a problem. I can't seem to run a make or even make

Re: LILO 21.6-2

2001-01-06 Thread Brian May
> "Manoj" == Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Manoj> This is a bug. /boot is not the only location Manoj> kernel-image packages may put image files in. The Manoj> kernel-image packages go to a great deal of trouble to Manoj> correctly create /vmlinuz and /vmlin

Re: What is wrong with kde2.1 and unstable ?

2001-01-06 Thread Erik
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 03:27:18PM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 03:46:54PM +0100, Michael Meding wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > as of three days ago, every attempt to do a dist-upgrade tries to uninstall > > almost every kde package. What is wrong there. > > > > Maybe the

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-06 Thread Andreas Fuchs
On 2001-01-05, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do large packages have to do with the size of the index file, > Packages? They waste one byte per multiple of 10 bytes of package size. (-; Bad joke? So sue me. -- Andreas Fuchs, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, antifuchs Hail R

Re: Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Roland Mas
Eray Ozkural (exa) (2001-01-07 00:04:14 +0200) : > How should I debug this? One thing I did once was rename /bin/bash as bash-real, and write a #!/bin/bash-real wrapper that logged everything (yeah, I did not know of the "set -x" trick at that time). It might be dirty, but it might just work. P

Relocatable source packages (Re: What do you wish for in an package manager? Here you are!)

2001-01-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 07:37:21PM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Apart from that, anyone who cares what version to use must use the > full path to the binary or a versioned name, like /bin/bash-2.04-1. > > I would like binaries to be compiled to reside in versioned > directories but I also see

Random X crashes

2001-01-06 Thread Artur Guja
Hello, A strange problem, which occurs both on my Aristo FT-8400 and my desktop Athlon 700 systems. The XFree 4.0 starts up fine (I even got the mouse going nice and smooth) and works fine, sometimes even for hours at a time. However, every now and then, I get an X server crash due to signal 11. T

Re: What is wrong with kde2.1 and unstable ?

2001-01-06 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Ivan! On Sat, 06 Jan 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 03:46:54PM +0100, Michael Meding wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > as of three days ago, every attempt to do a dist-upgrade tries to uninstall > > almost every kde package. What is wrong there. > > > > Maybe the package m

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
This is how it looks like [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet borg Trying 139.179.21.143... Connected to borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr. Escape character is '^]'. Debian GNU/Linux woody borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr login: root Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/gam

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Hi Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > There is not enough information in this report to actually do > anything about debugging the problem. You don't even mention what > shell you are using as /bin/sh; what you have in /etc/environemnt; > what you have in the configuration files for the rot u

Re: testing ipv6 tools

2001-01-06 Thread Philip Blundell
Pierfrancesco Caci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >connect(4, {sin_family=AF_INET6, sin6_port=htons(1025), inet_pton(AF_INET6, "f >e80::250:4ff:fe38:a630", &sin6_addr), sin6_flowinfo=htonl(0)}}, 24) = -1 EINVA >L (Invalid argument) What version of the kernel are you running? Your ping6 is using old-

Re: What is wrong with kde2.1 and unstable ?

2001-01-06 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 03:46:54PM +0100, Michael Meding wrote: > Hi all, > > as of three days ago, every attempt to do a dist-upgrade tries to uninstall > almost every kde package. What is wrong there. > > Maybe the package maintainer knows ? no clue...I don't use apt to upgrade. :) Your not

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Oliver M . Bolzer
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 09:39:08PM +0200, Eray Ozkural <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote... > What is more, I honestly did consider if there was anything that would > be wrong to show publicly. Perhaps I assumed that everybody knew how > unnecessarily aggressive the xfree86 maintainer is, and thus nobo

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Branden Robinson wrote: > > I can handle it just fine when clueful people characterize me as > "psychotic". When professional ignorami like you get hysterical on two > mailing lists and the BTS simultaneously over a FAQ, because you upgraded > your production system to an unstable, unreleased ope

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread exa
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 12:01:42PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > Clearly not, or you would know that XFree4 requires explicit configuration to > allow non-root users to run the X server. This is most definitely a FEATURE, > added to improve security, /not/ a bug. > It is different than what use

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread exa
Excuse me, I had not read the latter amusing part of the mail. I'd just seen the reassign part. It looks like Branden makes another hopeless attempt at defamation of a bug reporter and fellow contributor with his underrated literary skills. On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 10:36:33AM -0500, Branden Robins

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-06 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 02:53:06PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > "Scott Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Of course the -I option to tar was completely non-standard. The > >changelog explains why it changed, to be consistant with Solaris tar. > > I don't see the reasoning in the changelog, but

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for January 5, 2001

2001-01-06 Thread Laurent Bonnaud
Hi, would it be possible to clarify the title of this post by adding for which distribution it is about: "testing" or "unstable" ? I guess it is for "unstable", but packages in "unstable" are not meant to be released, only packages in "testing". Even if "testing" does not import packages with R

testing ipv6 tools

2001-01-06 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
Maybe I'm missing some important pieces, but is there someone who can get this to work ? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/ik5pvx # ping6 fe80::250:4ff:fe38:a630 connect: Invalid argument the address is the site-wide one automatically assigned to the eth0 of another computer on the lan. here's a strace

Re: LILO 21.6-2

2001-01-06 Thread Joey Hess
Russell Coker wrote: > Also currently if you don't have debconf configured to display "high" > priority messages then the configure phase of installation won't run. The > problem line is: > db_text high lilo/createdit You probably want to use the 'note' data type, not 'text'. See the debconf tu

Re: Obsolete software in /usr/local

2001-01-06 Thread Greg Stark
Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 01:31:42PM -0400, Ben Armstrong wrote: > > Changes in version 1.9.2: > > > > Removed /usr/local/lib from the default /etc/ld.so.conf > > for Debian (Bug#8181). > > oops, except that mod is *ancient*. way before

What to do about /etc/mtab

2001-01-06 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp>mount -o loop foo 1 > > Why don't we just patch mount to use /var/run/mtab? > > I don't know about any other program which modifies it. > > because /var is not always on the same partition as / /etc/mtab shouldn't exist, all the information should be handled by the k

ITP: worker - filemanager

2001-01-06 Thread Rick Younie
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist worker is a two-paned directory utility much like the Amiga's DirectoryOpus. License is GPL. Home page: http://www.boomerangsworld.de/worker Screenshots: http://www.boomerangsworld.de/worker/wscreenshots.php3

How to report bugs (was glibc thing)

2001-01-06 Thread Greg Stark
"Eray Ozkural (exa)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The preprocessor macro seems to be undefined. There are also other > subtleties while using pthread lib, such as the __USE_UNIX_98 stuff, > which I really don't know (I only use c++, and UNIX_98 sections don't > seem to come along. Why is that?)

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-06 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> > Of course the -I option to tar was completely non-standard. The changelog > > explains why it changed, to be consistant with Solaris tar. I'd prefer > > portability and consistancy any day, it shouldn't take that long to change > > any custom scripts you have. I always use long options for n

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

2001-01-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Eray" == Eray 'exa' Ozkural <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Eray> After I upgraded from potato to woody on Eray> an i386 machine, I observed a strange sympton Eray> I login as root. It doesn't matter where, console, X or Eray> from network... Eray> When I check the environment, normal use

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
Hi Erik! On Sat, 06 Jan 2001, Erik Hollensbe wrote: > I don't quite get this... This list is moderated. Is it not too much for Not that I know of. > I have a hard time finding the logic in wasting your time complaing about > how your time is being wasted. What does this solve? Humans are hardly

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 09:00:38PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 04:39:43PM -0200, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > > Branden, please understand this for what it is meant: "Branden does not like > > to be poked. He seems to like even less to be poked by you. Please don't > > poke

Re: LILO 21.6-2

2001-01-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Peter" == Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Peter> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> At the moment, if there is no lilo.conf, the kernel-image >> postinst creates a functioanl lilo.conf that takes into account Peter> Is this wise? You are asking my opinion? A

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread exa
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 08:28:53PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > There is nothing personal in my reply and neither in quoted text and > ~~ > Um, there is. The thing that caused you to say "Great kiss ass" to hmh. > Well, his answer t

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 12:01:42PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > Branden, perhaps the XFree4 server package should check if the > previously-installed version was a 3.3 server, and offer to set up the > Xwrapper.config file appropriately? I considered this, but judged that the cost of writing a p

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Erik Hollensbe
(this is not directed specifically at anyone) I don't quite get this... This list is moderated. Is it not too much for the moderator to moderate these postings and/or the user instead of drawing hte hounds just because one guy things a bug should be in a different spot? Some logical discussion,

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 04:39:43PM -0200, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > That mailing search stuff has some weird problems, yes. As for not being > written down anywhere, the postinst asks you about it. I think there is a > manpage for Xwrappers.config, but it's not installed in my system. There is.

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sat, 06 Jan 2001, Eray Ozkural wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 04:39:43PM -0200, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > > Branden, please understand this for what it is meant: "Branden does not like > > to be poked. He seems to like even less to be poked by you. Please don't > > poke him, he'll bite back

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 08:56:41PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: > > You have the gall to quote private email on a public list, and > > expect people to accord you any attention whatsoever? Have you ever > > heard of nettiquette? > > There is nothing personal in my reply and neither in quoted

Re: BIND 9.X, shared libraries, and package pools

2001-01-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:44:01AM +1100, Brian May wrote: > Josip> Oh, of course. (Packages including several shared libraries > Josip> suck as far as our naming scheme is concerned :o) > > Does bind come with multiple libraries? If so, I think they should > really be split up, according

ITA gnucash?

2001-01-06 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi I just want to ask if somebody knows if the maintainer is still active. Gnucash have now quite a lot of bugs and there is a new stable version. If he is not active anymore I'll gladly adopt this package. // Ola -- - Ola Lundqvist --- / [EMAIL PRO

Re: LILO 21.6-2

2001-01-06 Thread Peter Makholm
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At the moment, if there is no lilo.conf, the kernel-image > postinst creates a functioanl lilo.conf that takes into account Is this wise? I assume that in a perfect world the lilo package would be better to configure itself than some "random"

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread exa
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 04:39:43PM -0200, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > Branden, please understand this for what it is meant: "Branden does not like > to be poked. He seems to like even less to be poked by you. Please don't > poke him, he'll bite back and we get to watch the fallout." > Great kiss

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread exa
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 12:43:15PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > You have the gall to quote private email on a public list, and > expect people to accord you any attention whatsoever? Have you ever > heard of nettiquette? There is nothing personal in my reply and neither in quoted text

Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Russell" == Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russell> other=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 Russell> label=part1 Russell> table=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc Eh? I have an SCSI only machine which does not do devfs. Does the postinst handle that?

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread exa
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:16:22PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > 2a. Install (or recompile) the specific packages from unstable that fix the > bugs That I should have done... -- Eray (exa) Ozkural Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.cs.bilk

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Eray" == Eray Ozkural (exa) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Eray> This is my answer to a private mail (it seems...) I don't want to talk Eray> about these in private. Please note the reason why I carried this bug Eray> report to the list. You have the gall to quote private email on a pu

Re: LILO 21.6-2

2001-01-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Russell" == Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russell> I have a new version online at http://www.coker.com.au/lilo/ . It adds Russell> /boot/vmlinuz-* automatically and doesn't look for anything in the root Russell> directory. Please try it out and let me know what you think.

Re: useradd problem(!)

2001-01-06 Thread Juan Fuentes
* Sven Burgener ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >Hello > >When I first installed Debian GNU/Linux on this machine, I reconfigured >it so that there is a "central" user-group called "users" which all >users of this system belong to. > >I have now reconfigured it back to the default: > >/etc/adduser.conf

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
> This is my answer to a private mail (it seems...) I don't want to talk > about these in private. Please note the reason why I carried this bug > report to the list. Well, sorry but now you're in MY non-permanent (YET) shitlist for violating netiquette, and I'll have to acknowledge that Branden W

Re: LILO 21.6-2

2001-01-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Russell" == Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russell> On Saturday 06 January 2001 16:22, Chris Rutter wrote: >> On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Russell Coker wrote: >> > You don't have sym-links to the root directory? Why not? >> >> There's absolutely no need or necessarily a desire to do s

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager? Here you are!

2001-01-06 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Thorsten Wilmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello Petr Èech wrote: >> Adam Lazur wrote: >>> The ability to install more than one version of a package >>> simultaneously. >> Hmm. SO you install bash 2.04-1 and bash 2.02-3. Now what will >> be /bin/bash 2.04

Re: LILO 21.6-2

2001-01-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Adam" == Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Adam> On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Russell Coker wrote: >>> You don't have sym-links to the root directory? Why not? >>> Adam> kernel-package doesn't do them anymore. This is not quite

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 07:29:35PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: > What is this supposed to mean? There are many users here suffering from this > problem since this is a multi-user system and none of them have the time > to learn the peculiarities of x. They, and I, just want to use this stuff > and

Re: [devfs users]: evaluate a patch please

2001-01-06 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Martin Bialasinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, there is a bug in the mc package, that most likely is > related to devfs. I can't reproduce it, nor does it seem to be > common. > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=57557&repeatmerged=yes >

Re: What to do about /etc/debian_version

2001-01-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jan 06, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp>mount -o loop foo 1 > Why don't we just patch mount to use /var/run/mtab? > I don't know about any other program which modifies it. If we use /var/run/mtab, how does mount update

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

2001-01-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Eray Ozkural wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 05:18:56PM +0100, Samuel Hocevar wrote: > > >You might be interested in RTFMing, or checking past bugs, or having > > a look at /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config. > I did RTFM mf. Clearly not, or you would know that XFree4 requires ex

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