Re: our broken man package

2001-01-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 07:14:13PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > > Here's one more real fun one. This only works if you are root and /root > is mode 700 and $TMP is set to /root/tmp/: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>man man > man: can't create a temporary filename: Permission denied > > So incredibly broke

Re: find/locate both segfault after today's update [unstable]

2001-01-04 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:38:56PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 09:35:28PM -0600, Gordon Sadler wrote: > > I update most every day to current unstable. Something I just noticed > > today no matter what options or how I call them, both find and locate > > are producing: > > >

Re: find/locate both segfault after today's update [unstable]

2001-01-04 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 09:35:28PM -0600, Gordon Sadler wrote: > I update most every day to current unstable. Something I just noticed > today no matter what options or how I call them, both find and locate > are producing: > > locate libc6 > Segmentation fault > > find / -name etc > Segmentation

Re: our broken man package

2001-01-04 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> the problem with this is you end up with the catman files owned by > whatever user reads whatever man page. personally as a sysadmin i > don't want users gaining write permission to files in any more places > under /var then there already is (ahem texmf). i am not certain if > there is potentia

find/locate both segfault after today's update [unstable]

2001-01-04 Thread Gordon Sadler
I update most every day to current unstable. Something I just noticed today no matter what options or how I call them, both find and locate are producing: locate libc6 Segmentation fault find / -name etc Segmentation fault The only thing even close to relevant AFAICT today is ... libc6 Package:

Re: Problem with start-stop-daemon and pidfile

2001-01-04 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:29:30AM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > " " == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:10:19AM +0100, Goswin Brederlow > > wrote: > >> touch /var/run/debian-mirror.pid chown mirror.nogroup > >> /var/run/debian

Re: our broken man package

2001-01-04 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: > I'm concerned with some breakage in the man program. Here is an example: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>chmod 700 . > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>cp /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz . > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>man -l ./ls.1.gz > man: can't chdir to /home/joey: Permission denied > man: ./ls.1.gz: Pe

Re: our broken man package

2001-01-04 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:35:56AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Is that even necessary? I mean, alternatives makes sense for programs > like MTAs and editors, which have a diverse range of interface, > functionality, and use. Man formats a page and displays it in $PAGER; I'd always thought the inten

Re: Problem with start-stop-daemon and pidfile

2001-01-04 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:10:19AM +0100, Goswin Brederlow > wrote: >> touch /var/run/debian-mirror.pid chown mirror.nogroup >> /var/run/debian-mirror.pid >> >> touch /var/log/debian-mirror.log chown mirror.nogrou

Re: Important Note On Source-Only Uploads

2001-01-04 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 04:17:05PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > Anthony Towns wrote: > > Basically: don't do them. > Cool! I will tag all pine bugs as "wontfix"... Actually it's weird. Pine seems to be surviving for some reason. I don't know why. :-/ Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: useful tools for packages--any comprehensive list?

2001-01-04 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Mikael Hedin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, >> from time to time people mentions some nifty tools (mostly >> scripts?) > to search for info about packages and similar. Eg the citation > below. Is there some list/collection/etc of such utilities? > Or f

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-04 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == zhaoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > hi, [i'm not sure if this has been resolved, lart me if you > like.] > my proposal to resolve big Packages.gz is through package pool > system. Whats the problem with a big Packages file? If you don't want to download it a

Re: rm to mp3, or rm,mp3 to .wav audio files

2001-01-04 Thread Uwe Hermann
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:59:21PM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote: > Does anyone have any ideas on > this, or has it been done already? Hi. I guess vsound is what you're lokking for... Should be listed on Freshmeat... Uwe. -- Uwe Hermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.hermann-uwe.de/ ---

Re: alert about ncurses maintainer

2001-01-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Joey Hess wrote: > Package: ksymoops > Priority: optional > Section: utils > Installed-Size: 348 > Maintainer: Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Which Adam Heath or Robert Paris will take over (they're fighting it out > as I type). Argh, I wanted to take that over, it's from the sam

Re: Potato packages

2001-01-04 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 05 January 2001 12:00, Jacob Kuntz wrote: > from the secret journal of Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I am sure that there are lots of people who want to use some of these > > features but who don't want to track the unstable/testing releases of > > Debian to do so. Do we have a

Re: Potato packages

2001-01-04 Thread Jacob Kuntz
from the secret journal of Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I am sure that there are lots of people who want to use some of these > features but who don't want to track the unstable/testing releases of Debian > to do so. Do we have a repository of packages to support such people? > i belie

Re: mailing-list mgmt (was: Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long))

2001-01-04 Thread Tal Danzig
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 04:22:17PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > The purpose of this mailing list is to facilitate communication between > developers working on Debian. > > As such, most of this thread is offtopic. Please take it elsewhere. > Agreed. I've been waiting for someone to say this. - Ta

Potato packages

2001-01-04 Thread Russell Coker
Is anyone maintaining a repository of Potato packages for new features? If you want to run ReiserFS as root then you need the LILO I just uploaded. If you want devfsd then you need the woody version (there's no potato version). My LVM packages will soon be available in woody but potato will be

Re: mailing-list mgmt (was: Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long))

2001-01-04 Thread Joey Hess
Philip Brown wrote: > The primary purpose of mailing lists like debian-devel, is for discussion > ON THE LIST. The purpose of this mailing list is to facilitate communication between developers working on Debian. As such, most of this thread is offtopic. Please take it elsewhere. -- see shy jo

LILO 21.6-2

2001-01-04 Thread Russell Coker
I have just uploaded LILO 21.6-2 to Woody. I have made it use debconf for all the common settings (I can configure lilo.conf for all my machines using only debconf). Please test it and let me know of any other settings that should be added for debconf. Also I am concerned about the risk of br

Re: alert about ncurses maintainer

2001-01-04 Thread Joey Hess
Stefan Rieken wrote: > The problem is, that the update_excuses list (and packages.debian.org > too) list Joel Klecker as the maintainer of ncurses. As the DWN editor, > you'll probably recall that Joel (Joey) is - sadly enough - not alive > anymore; they made Potato a tribute to him when it was rel

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:43:05AM -0800, Philip Brown wrote: > [ Craig Sanders writes ] > > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:26:25AM -0800, Philip Brown wrote: > > > And in the case of the debian mailing lists, you should "reply to" the > > > list. > > some replies should go to the list, and some replie

[FINAL, for now ;-)] (Was: Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file)

2001-01-04 Thread zhaoway
final thoughts ;-) On bigger and bigger Packages.gz file, a try The directory structure looks roughly like this: debian/dists/woody/main/binary-all/Packages.deb debian/pool/main/a/abba/abba_1989.orig.tar.gz abba_1989-12.diff.gz abba_1989-12.dsc

BIND 9.X package status

2001-01-04 Thread Bdale Garbee
It was just pointed out to me that there is a new RFP for bind9 packages filed to the wnpp part of the BTS. As the BIND package maintainer, I indicated many months ago my intention to package BIND 9.X for Debian. Unfortunately, the BIND 9.0.0 and 9.0.1 releases contained sources for required

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-04 Thread zhaoway
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:19:25PM +0100, Petr Cech wrote: > On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 06:07:20AM +0800 , zhaoway wrote: > > then, apt-get update will do nothing, > > apt-get install some.deb will first download some.pkg-gz, then check its > > dependency, > > then grab them.pkg-gz all, then install.

Re: our broken man package

2001-01-04 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Joey Hess wrote: JH>John Galt wrote: JH>> JH>In other words, if you can have a religious war over it, we need an JH>> JH>alternative. I have never seen a religious war over man. :-) JH>> JH>> Never heard RMS on info pages? JH> JH>That's a file format religious war, not a man

Re: our broken man package

2001-01-04 Thread Joey Hess
John Galt wrote: > JH>In other words, if you can have a religious war over it, we need an > JH>alternative. I have never seen a religious war over man. :-) > > Never heard RMS on info pages? That's a file format religious war, not a man program religious war. -- see shy jo

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-04 Thread zhaoway
[quote myself, ;-) this is semi-final now ;-)] another solution is to let every single deb provides its.pkg-gz then, apt-get update will do nothing, apt-get install some.deb will first download some.pkg-gz, then check its dependency, then grab them.pkg-gz all, then install. that is a minimum.

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-04 Thread Petr Cech
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 06:07:20AM +0800 , zhaoway wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:19:59PM +0200, Sami Haahtinen wrote: > > how would the package manager (namely apt) know which ones you need.. even > > if > > you don't have X11 installed (and apt assumes you don't need X11 packages > > file)

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-04 Thread zhaoway
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 06:07:20AM +0800, zhaoway wrote: > another solution is to let every single deb provides its.pkg-gz > > then, apt-get update will do nothing, > apt-get install some.deb will first download some.pkg-gz, then check its > dependency, > then grab them.pkg-gz all, then install.

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, D-Man wrote: D>On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:53:04PM -0700, John Galt wrote: D>> mutt allegedly shares code with pine... ^^ D>> D> D>That would be very strange since mutt's author was a part of the elm D>group. Wouldn't mutt then have started with the elm

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-04 Thread zhaoway
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:19:59PM +0200, Sami Haahtinen wrote: > how would the package manager (namely apt) know which ones you need.. even if > you don't have X11 installed (and apt assumes you don't need X11 packages > file) > doesn't mean that you wouldn't want to install x11 packages file. a

rm to mp3, or rm,mp3 to .wav audio files

2001-01-04 Thread Kenneth Scharf
I have some .rm (real audio) files that I'd like to convert to mp3's, and perhaps to .wav's as well as mp3's I'd like to convert to .wav's (so as to make plain old audio cd's to play in the car). Since the real audio files are closed source and there probably isn't an open source player available

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-04 Thread zhaoway
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:01:15PM +0200, Sami Haahtinen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:02:15AM +0800, zhaoway wrote: > > my proposal to resolve big Packages.gz is through package > > pool system. > > > > add 36 or so new debian package, namely, > > > > [a-zA-Z0-1]-packages-gz_date_all.deb >

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread D-Man
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:53:04PM -0700, John Galt wrote: > mutt allegedly shares code with pine... > That would be very strange since mutt's author was a part of the elm group. Wouldn't mutt then have started with the elm code base? (or at least part of it) > -- > Pardon me, but you have ob

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Ethan" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ethan> On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 03:34:26AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> You prove my point. Resorting to invective is the last refuge >> of the incompetent. This is your second demonstration of incompetence >> in a public forum in 24 ho

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread John Galt
On 4 Jan 2001, Manoj Srivastava wrote: MS>>>"John" == John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MS> MS> SG> Wrong. This would break my MUA so that "reply" no longer sends mail back MS> SG> to the originator, as it is supposed to do. MS> MS> John> Well, you replied to the list alone despite my reply-to

Re: our broken man package

2001-01-04 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Joey Hess wrote: JH>Peter Makholm wrote: JH>> We have alternatives on almost everything but dpkg and man. If someone JH>> thinks it's worth the effort to make alternatives for these they JH>> should do it. If there is a general agreement that the alternatives is JH>> better tha

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-04 Thread Sami Haahtinen
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 03:07:00PM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > > The only other possibility not yet proposed (?) would be to split the > packages file by section. > > base-packages > games-packages > x11-packages > net-packages > > Then a server that just doesn't do x11 or doesn't go games h

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Richard Klinda
> "Br" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Let's find out. Miles, Branden, what MUA's do you use?=20 Br> How about reading my headers, which is all I asked for in the first Br> place? You shouldn't forget people who reads this list as digest, we see only the following

xemacs/vm/mailcrypt problems

2001-01-04 Thread Mikael Hedin
Hi, Today I tried to verify a gpg-signed message from myself, but it doesn't work! See below. It worked earlier, but I don't remember if xemacs has been upgraded since. This is an up-to-date unstable system. /Micce Signaling: (invalid-function (macro . #)) vm-select-folder-buffer() mc-v

useful tools for packages--any comprehensive list?

2001-01-04 Thread Mikael Hedin
Hi, from time to time people mentions some nifty tools (mostly scripts?) to search for info about packages and similar. Eg the citation below. Is there some list/collection/etc of such utilities? Or for other usefull things like `apt-cache search ', which can be found in the manuals but is a bi

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-04 Thread Vince Mulhollon
The only other possibility not yet proposed (?) would be to split the packages file by section. base-packages games-packages x11-packages net-packages Then a server that just doesn't do x11 or doesn't go games has no need to keep up with available x11 or games packages.

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"John" == John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SG> Wrong. This would break my MUA so that "reply" no longer sends mail back SG> to the originator, as it is supposed to do. John> Well, you replied to the list alone despite my reply-to, so I guess your John> actions don't match your words...

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-04 Thread Sami Haahtinen
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:02:15AM +0800, zhaoway wrote: > my proposal to resolve big Packages.gz is through package > pool system. > > add 36 or so new debian package, namely, > > [a-zA-Z0-1]-packages-gz_date_all.deb > > contents of each is quite obvious. ;-) > and a virtual unstable-packages-g

Avifile package - help needed

2001-01-04 Thread Zdenek Kabelac
Hi everyone After a while there is finaly version which looks stable enough for me, so there are new packages of this program available here http://master.debian.org/~kabi/libaviplay_20010103-1_i386.deb http://master.debian.org/~kabi/avifile-player_20010103-1_i386.deb http://master.debian.org/~k

Re: console-tools vs kbd

2001-01-04 Thread Yann Dirson
On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 05:54:56PM +, Sam Vilain wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm using a non-standard keyboard that sends odd scancodes. I wrote a > startup script that does a whole heap of "setkeycodes" commands, but I've > found that the version of "setkeycodes" in the console-tools package do

Re: our broken man package

2001-01-04 Thread Joey Hess
Peter Makholm wrote: > We have alternatives on almost everything but dpkg and man. If someone > thinks it's worth the effort to make alternatives for these they > should do it. If there is a general agreement that the alternatives is > better than the original packages we just switch prioryties. I

Re: our broken man package

2001-01-04 Thread Joey Hess
Lars Wirzenius wrote: > They always re-format a manual page? This might be reasonable, actually. > Groff is pretty fast, and most manual pages are short, so it shouldn't > take too long even on older hardware. I think it would take a while on my 386 for things like the zshall man page. (Several hu

Re: console-tools vs kbd, fix listed in bug report?!

2001-01-04 Thread Sam Vilain
As pointed out to me, bug #71768 has a workaround to my problem listed in it. However, I find it quite appalling that a fix involving a one character change to a source file, where the fix has been listed in the bug report has not been pushed through, given its age. The console-tools package has

Re: mailing-list mgmt (was: Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long))

2001-01-04 Thread Philip Brown
[ Thomas 'Mike' Michlmayr writes ] > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:43:05 -0800, > Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So headers should be optimized for group discussion. > > Replying to individuals is a secondary function. > > not at all. replying to individuals is an essentail function that

Re: ITP: Rhythm Composer TK-707 (And suggestions for sound in debian)

2001-01-04 Thread Eduardo Marcel Macan
Oooops, sorry, I forgot telling it in my ITP. It is covered by the GPL and its page is at: http://www.vislab.usyd.edu.au/staff/chris/tk707/ On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:19:20AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:04:55AM -0200, Eduardo Marcel Macan

mutt's history (was: Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long))

2001-01-04 Thread Thomas 'Mike' Michlmayr
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:49:45 -0700, John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Let's see: Pine Is Nearly (no-longer lately...) Elm, you say that mutt > actually derives from elm, yet they don't share code. Um, yeah, sure, > whatever. BTW from the LG article about mutt... AFAICT mutt does

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-04 Thread zhaoway
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:17:30AM +0800, zhaoway wrote: > [read my previous semi-proposal] > > this has some more benefits, > > 1) package maintainer could upload (to pool) in whatever > frequency they like. in an ideal world, developer should upload to ''xxx-auto-builder'' ;-) 9i'm turning ou

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-04 Thread zhaoway
[read my previous semi-proposal] this has some more benefits, 1) package maintainer could upload (to pool) in whatever frequency they like. 2) release is seperated from package pool which is a storage system. and release is a qa system. 3) release could be managed through BTS on specific packag

Re: Need server

2001-01-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 04, Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >ftp.debian.org has been very flaky for me for weeks. And neither >ftp.de.debian.org nor source.rfc822.org are up-to-date. I guess they have >the very same problem accessing ftp.debian.org during their mirror process. {ftp,http}.it.debian.org

mailing-list mgmt (was: Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long))

2001-01-04 Thread Thomas 'Mike' Michlmayr
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:43:05 -0800, Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > But the primary point of a mailing list is for discussion ON THE LIST. > Do you want to disagree with that? partially. there are enough announce-only and moderated MLs. > So headers should be optimized for gro

Re: our broken man package

2001-01-04 Thread Colin Watson
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:53:37PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: >> I'll bet (have not verified) that you can already trick it into writing >> bogus file by sticking trojan pages elsewhere in your manpath. > >i just tried it, did not end up with a cached file. >

package pool and big Packages.gz file

2001-01-04 Thread zhaoway
hi, [i'm not sure if this has been resolved, lart me if you like.] my proposal to resolve big Packages.gz is through package pool system. add 36 or so new debian package, namely, [a-zA-Z0-1]-packages-gz_date_all.deb contents of each is quite obvious. ;-) and a virtual unstable-packages-gz depe

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Steve Greenland wrote: SG>On 03-Jan-01, 22:53 (CST), John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SG>> On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Branden Robinson wrote: SG>> SG>> > I didn't say there was. Does "Mail-Copies-To:" begin with an X? SG>> SG>> RFC 822 this time: SG>> SG>> http://www.faqs.org

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Philip Brown
[ Craig Sanders writes ] > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:26:25AM -0800, Philip Brown wrote: > > And in the case of the debian mailing lists, you should "reply to" the > > list. > > bullshit. > > some replies should go to the list, and some replies should be private. > it's up to the person writing t

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Daniel Burrows
(Not Cced :) ) On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:15:42PM -0500, D-Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > What if I set my Reply-To header to be the address I was sending To? > How would you reply to me? ;-) To make a totally pointless observation: mutt lets you override Reply-To when you use

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:45:50AM -0500, David Greene wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > The problem is L4M3RZ using that broken piece of non-free shit PINE, which > > doesn't appear to respect *any* conventions of netiquette. > > Is there a free mailer to replace "that

Re: Need server

2001-01-04 Thread Heiko Ordelt
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:01:43AM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote: Hi! > Is there any apt-able server out there that is accessible with a better > bandwidth than ftp.debian.org (currently 468 bytes/sec) but still is > up-to-date? ftp.freenet.de seems to be very actually and it's fast too. Give it a

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010103T212649-0600, Adam Heath wrote: > Perl is a required package, there is no need to list the dependency. That it is required is not relevant. That it is a virtual essential package is. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

ITP: Bakery

2001-01-04 Thread Mariusz Przygodzki
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist I intend to package Bakery. Package: bakery License: GPL URL: http://bakery.sourceforge.net/ Bakery is a C++ Framework for creating GNOME applications using Gnome-- (gnomemm) and Gtk-- (gtkmm). I also maintain gtkmm and gnomemm packages. -- Mariusz Przygodzki

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > Pine also originated from elm, so theoretically it's possible (although > I think both are complete rewrites). mutt is a complete rewrite and shouldn't share core with elm. Wichert. --

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010104T100704-0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 03-Jan-01, 22:53 (CST), John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The difference between pine and mutt is that you KNOW the overflows in > > pinemutt allegedly shares code with pine... > > Extremely unlikely, as it originated from elm. Pine

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Tal Danzig
On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:59:47 -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > > Please bear in mind that many of us have been running unstable since > before Debian was released (at all), and fondly remember many fun little > incidents like ld.so completly breaking. Tends to put minor breakage in > perspectiv

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread David Greene
On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Branden Robinson wrote: > The problem is L4M3RZ using that broken piece of non-free shit PINE, which > doesn't appear to respect *any* conventions of netiquette. Is there a free mailer to replace "that broken piece of non-free shit PINE" that supports IMAP?

Re: Something has broken APT on my system...

2001-01-04 Thread Heikki Kantola
According to Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Have you tried removing the files under /var/state/apt/lists? Nope. > These are what is being read during the "Reading Package Lists..." > phase. But this information revealed the reason for the behaviour I reported: the problem spot was re

Re: maybe ITP rsync mirror script for pools

2001-01-04 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Jan 02, Goswin Brederlow > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So would there be intrest in a deb of the script coming with a >> debconf interface for configuration, cronjob or ip-up support >> and whatever else is needed t

Re: ITP: Rhythm Composer TK-707 (And suggestions for sound in debian)

2001-01-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 04:34:25PM +0100, Enrique Robledo Arnuncio wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:04:55AM -0200, Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: > Well, it was me, and I did package it, but I sent an ITP-delay message > some time ago, when a developer from the WxWindows team asked me not > to put

Re: ITP: Rhythm Composer TK-707 (And suggestions for sound in debian)

2001-01-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:04:55AM -0200, Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: > I'd like to have Tk707 packaged. Tk707 is a software clone of the > Roland TR-707 rhythm composer, a drum machine. > > It is written in C and Tk and it uses the alsa sequencer. I am using > it together with the latest alsa mod

Re: our broken man package

2001-01-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:00:19AM +0100, Peter Makholm wrote: > Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On the other hand, we might want to copy the OpenBSD version instead > > of maintaining our own man. But I leave that to whoever maintains the > > packages. > > We have alternatives o

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Steve Greenland
On 03-Jan-01, 22:53 (CST), John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > I didn't say there was. Does "Mail-Copies-To:" begin with an X? > > RFC 822 this time: > > http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc822.html > > and Mail-Copies-To: fails to rear it's ugly h

Re: ITP: libxml-simple-perl

2001-01-04 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Gordon! On Thu, 04 Jan 2001, Gordon Matzigkeit wrote: > XML::Simple is a Perl module that facilitates reading and writing Perl > data structures to XML. It is especially useful for configuration > files. > > It's licensed under the same terms as Perl. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -S XML/Simple

Re: PGP/GPG transition + db.debian.org

2001-01-04 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Pawel! On Thu, 04 Jan 2001, Pawel Wiecek wrote: > On Jan 4, 1:11pm, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > (see a thread here on -devel perhaps a > > month or two ago). > > I can't find it in the archive... http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0010/msg00683.html & Fups

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 07:27:57AM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: > But in truth, you should be -filing- bugs against things you find > wrong, for the following reason: not all developers read debian-devel, > so your concerns, as important as they may be, may or may not reach > the responsible parties, a

Re: Important Note On Source-Only Uploads

2001-01-04 Thread Santiago Vila
Anthony Towns wrote: > Basically: don't do them. Cool! I will tag all pine bugs as "wontfix"...

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2001-01-04 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 08:37:26AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > Back on topic, I would have thought that package distribution was a one > time shot. Caches are for people who would otherwise download the > slashdot.org header graphic fifty times a day. Whereas each individual > debian machine

ITP: libxml-simple-perl

2001-01-04 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
XML::Simple is a Perl module that facilitates reading and writing Perl data structures to XML. It is especially useful for configuration files. It's licensed under the same terms as Perl. -- Gordon Matzigkeit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> //\ I'm a FIG (http://fig.org/) Committed to diversity and freed

Re: Bug#81180: ITP: aterm -- an x terminal emulator

2001-01-04 Thread Chris Gray
> Marcelo E Magallon writes: >> Chris Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Description: mem> [4 ysabell:~] grep-available -s Package,Maintainer -P aterm mem> Package: aterm-ml mem> Maintainer: Jordi Mallach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> me

Re: Something has broken APT on my system...

2001-01-04 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:08:39AM +0200, Heikki Kantola wrote: > For few days (first experienced this on 1.1.) I've been trying to figure > out what's wrong with APT as whatever command I try, I get: > > Reading Package Lists... Error! > E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room > E: Error occured whil

Re: ITP: Rhythm Composer TK-707 (And suggestions for sound in debian)

2001-01-04 Thread Enrique Robledo Arnuncio
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:04:55AM -0200, Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: > alsa + timidity makes it possible do create really good sounding music > without having an expensive sound card. Jazz++ can also use alsa and > timidity. If we had alsa, timidity and jazz++ into debian enabled to > work toget

Re: Need server

2001-01-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:56:41PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote: > > There are almost two hundred public Debian mirrors, use them. > > Sure. But I was hoping someone would know a machine that a) is up-to-date > (the three machines outside the US I tried so far are not) and b) is > accessible pretty

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Jim Lynch
A hobby server? OK; sorry: I saw "server" and read that as "important server". But in truth, you should be -filing- bugs against things you find wrong, for the following reason: not all developers read debian-devel, so your concerns, as important as they may be, may or may not reach the responsi

Something has broken APT on my system...

2001-01-04 Thread Heikki Kantola
For few days (first experienced this on 1.1.) I've been trying to figure out what's wrong with APT as whatever command I try, I get: Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing emusic (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/st

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Jim Lynch
> > Date:Thu, 04 Jan 2001 11:06:43 +1100 > To: Jim Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: Erik Hollensbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > From:Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long) >

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2001-01-04 Thread Vince Mulhollon
With the raging flame war going on about MUAs, I'm embarassed to mail this with lotus notes, but, hey, its all I have at work. Back on topic, I would have thought that package distribution was a one time shot. Caches are for people who would otherwise download the slashdot.org header graphic fi

Re: PGP/GPG transition + db.debian.org

2001-01-04 Thread Pawel Wiecek
On Jan 4, 1:11pm, Peter Palfrader wrote: > New keys sent to keyring.debian.org via gpg --send will take approximatly Gosh... > forever. New keys have to be added my hand by the keyring maintainer and Emailed him as well... > this might long (up 2 12 months?) (see a thread here on -devel perhap

Re: ITP: crack

2001-01-04 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 03:04:07PM +0100, Andreas Voegele wrote: > Pawel Wiecek writes: > > I'd like to package CRACK, the well know password security checker. > > It has a nice licence, derived from Artistic and is no doubt a > > useful tool for an administrator. > Have you looked at the package

Re: Need server

2001-01-04 Thread Bart Schuller
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:56:41PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:48:34PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > There are almost two hundred public Debian mirrors, use them. > > Sure. But I was hoping someone would know a machine that a) is up-to-date > (the three machines outsi

Re: ITP: crack

2001-01-04 Thread Andreas Voegele
Pawel Wiecek writes: > I'd like to package CRACK, the well know password security checker. > It has a nice licence, derived from Artistic and is no doubt a > useful tool for an administrator. Have you looked at the package john? AFAIK john can do anything crack can do.

Re: Need server

2001-01-04 Thread Michael Meskes
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:48:34PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > There are almost two hundred public Debian mirrors, use them. Sure. But I was hoping someone would know a machine that a) is up-to-date (the three machines outside the US I tried so far are not) and b) is accessible pretty well (which

Re: What happened to libnss1-compat?

2001-01-04 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:03:15AM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote: > I have a commercial binary that needs this library. Yes, I can find it in > potato, but not in unstable. Is there a new package providing > libnss1-compat? libnss1-compat would not compile cleanly with the latest glibc. So if you ne

quota package and wishlist #67556

2001-01-04 Thread Illo de' Illis
The severity of bug #67556 (package quota) should be changed from wishlist to important since it fixes a problem which makes the package unusable on big endian architectures (getopt() returns int(-1) and not char(-1)). Or at least it should be advisable to separate the getopt() bug from the rest an

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Erik Hollensbe
THANK YOU. Finally, an answer that I can use. I will look into contributing towards this package. -- Erik Hollensbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Programmer, Powells Internet Division "I respect a man who lets me know where he stands, even if he is wrong." - Malcolm X On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Matt Zimmerman w

Re: maybe ITP rsync mirror script for pools

2001-01-04 Thread Ingo Saitz
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 06:14:05PM -0500, Adam McKenna wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:57:07PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > Please don't encourage private mirrors! > > Debian itself encourages private mirrors. Personally, I'd rather just > download a new ISO every 3 months or so as new vers

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 08:44:49PM -0500, Adam McKenna wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 08:41:06PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > If I'm already replying to a list, I'm not going to waste bandwidth by > > mailing you personally as well. > So what you're saying is that you're purposely ignorin

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