I'm sorry about the tone, but I'm getting very sick of repeating myself
over and over.
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 08:26:19PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> I've been working with the previous perl5.005 package (the one that had
> been uploaded to slink and retracted after) and I did not have ma
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 11:09:18PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > > : > Debian DNS administrators, please change nonus.debian.org to be a
> > > : > CNAME for pandora.debian.org.
> > >
> > > That's what I call `democracy'. :-( -- Sorry.
> >
> > Um, non-us has been terribly broken since BEFORE
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Look into kde/kdm's bug list. It does some things very badly here (have
> heard
> the X maint gripe more than once on this).
>
yea..I need to do that.. I know one of the big beefs was that kdebase required
xdm since kdm was apart of kdebase...I took part of this is
Quoting John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Is the debugging info necessary ? I wonder if it slows things down.
probably not. From what I gather, alot of how the debian packages are created
are for the benefit of the developers. This would at least explain debugging
info...I will dig thr
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
James R. Van Zandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>> Remember that the person who is most qualified to test any
>>>> piece of code is the person who wrote it.
>>Wichert> I can argue about that. But I won't :)
>>Th
* Wichert Akkerman (Sat, May 08, 1999 at 10:17:26PM +0200)
> Previously Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
> > The first part was easy (if I got it right, that is), that's just a small
> > patch to /etc/X11/Xsession.
>
> Isn't is easier have some small script check the list of available
> window manage
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Hartmut Koptein wrote:
> > > For m68k-mac and powermac we need 'hybrid' cd-images (msdos + hfs).
> >
> > A bootable CD for PReP will need a special layout as well. prep image +
> > isofs...looks like we need multiple powerpc binary cd images.
>
> PReP can't read msdos part
> >mozilla should work for potato
>
> Maybe it will ;) We'll try.
I try it now serveral weeks (not constantly), but all what i get is the
'composer' mode on powerpc (the one without the menus) or a window without
anything in it. It makes no different if i use the M4 version from mast
Hi,
sorry for the confuse layout on http://master.debian.org/~koptein
`log for successful build of x' means also a bad/failed package; this
comes from an bad return value of one of the autobuilder scripts (don't know
which one).
Thanks,
Hartmut
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 08:55:44PM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote:
> mozilla should work for potato
Maybe it will ;) We'll try.
--
enJoy -*/\*- http://jagor.srce.hr/~jrodin/
Look into kde/kdm's bug list. It does some things very badly here (have heard
the X maint gripe more than once on this).
> > For m68k-mac and powermac we need 'hybrid' cd-images (msdos + hfs).
>
> A bootable CD for PReP will need a special layout as well. prep image +
> isofs...looks like we need multiple powerpc binary cd images.
PReP can't read msdos partition on cd?
*Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
> So if you have beefs with how kde is currently being done from a debian
> package
> standpoint and would like to see them done differently please let me know.
> Here
> is a current list of things that people have already stated needed to be
> changed
> or was a "god i
*Taketoshi Sano wrote:
> Hi, I'm one of the members in Debian JP,
> and a self candidate to a maintainer in Debian.
>
> # I have sent application mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] at May 05 1999.
> # I have much curiosity at the processing time to join the Debian project.
> # (I waited to join XFree86 as
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:46:44PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> Richard, you forgot a number of other items:
>
> What architectures will be in potato? Clearly, all the slink ones --
> will PowerPC be ready too? Hurd-i386? (good god, I don't want to
> even *think* about what we'll need for Hurd
Quoting Hartmut Koptein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> /etc/init.d/kdm shouldn't use /etc/X11/config, its obsolete.
>
yea..I forgot to mention that one as well...currently how I have it is
that kdm (as a seperate package) requires xdm and uses a /etc/X11/kdm dir
with a config in there instead so that i
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Hartmut Koptein wrote:
> > There's also another thing that need to be worked on, the CDs. The
> > script creating the images is not smart enough to select just the
> > good number of packages for each CDs. Currently, the two binary CDs
> > can still be generated for potato but
Le Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:03:37PM +0200, Hartmut Koptein écrivait:
> The QA-team must then also have the power to do massive NMU's.
Did you read the last text describing QA-members powers ? Isn't it enough ?
I don't know. The only problem I may see, is the time we must wait before
we are allowed
> kdm not requiring xdm. (I migrated kdm out of kdebase so it is a seperate
> package..this should take care of this for the time being)
> migrate kde out of /usr/X11R6/bin and into /usr/bin (requested by someone)
> fixing up the scripts (still working on this...have current i
Just to let people know who are interested...I've been given CVS access to the
kde source so that I can update and keep up to date the kde packages. Stephen
has plans for the future (ie, kde 2.0.x and beyond) and just doesn't have time
to keep the stuff updated at this time and I volunteered to do
On May 10, Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I suppose it would be possible, but I'm not particularly interested in
>maintaining more than one version. A better solution would be to figure out
We can't not have a package like BIND in our distribution.
If you need some hints about sett
Sorry folks. I inadvertently posted to debian-devel-announce instead
of debian-devel. (thanks to Brandon and Edward for pointing this out)
With regard Richard's question regarding GNOME in potato:
GNOME has been copied from the staging area into potato. I believe
that just about all of the GNOM
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 08:55:44PM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote:
[...]
> Other topics: language support for boot-floppies (and then also cd-images)
>and dpkg & dselect (and newer apt-get versions).
Almost ready for boot-floppies, we just need a dialog box for language
selection a
> There's also another thing that need to be worked on, the CDs. The
> script creating the images is not smart enough to select just the
> good number of packages for each CDs. Currently, the two binary CDs
> can still be generated for potato but not the source images (they are too
> big). And many
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Um, non-us has been terribly broken since BEFORE I was a developer. In
> fact, it was broken when I first installed Bo a year and a half ago.
Newbie ;-)
> You have yourself pointed out a number of problems including lack of
> diskspace
Hasn't been th
> The best list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] The main problem we are
> facing is our official 2.2.x kernels are huge, and there's no way to put
> the kernel and the root.bin image on a single floppy. The proposed
> solution is building a modularized kernel, and loading the needed modules
> using an initrd
Hi,
> BTW, I think it's good to set an *optimistic* freeze date, so people
> aren't shocked. I would set it at July 1, or maybe Bastille day
> (Debian pomme de terre?).
For slink update or for potato? For potato we new min. two months and
only if we start now working very hard (all maintainers,
Quoting Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Is my machine a ticking time bomb or something? Will it not boot up next
> time I have to reboot?
>
> Other than putting the acct package on hold, I've been tracking potato
> pretty closely.
I'm not sure about glibc requiring 2.2.x but I have noti
Le Mon, May 10, 1999 at 07:06:58PM +0200, Richard Braakman écrivait:
> * Working disk sets for all released architectures.
> I don't know much about the plans for the boot-floppies yet. Could
> someone volunteer as a contact person, or tell me the best list to read?
There's also another thing t
Moin all,
> * Working disk sets for all released architectures.
> I don't know much about the plans for the boot-floppies yet. Could
> someone volunteer as a contact person, or tell me the best list to read?
A minimum is two months for this -- if we start now to work on this.
> * glibc 2.1
Taketoshi Sano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have heard that some self-candidates from Debian JP felt
> that the Debian Project rejects them as a maintainer,
> because:
>
> one of them had not receive no answers for long time,
>
>more than a month is too long enough for ordinary people.
Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 07:06:58PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote:
> > * Working disk sets for all released architectures.
> > I don't know much about the plans for the boot-floppies yet. Could
> > someone volunteer as a contact person, or tell me t
Le Mon, May 10, 1999 at 07:06:58PM +0200, Richard Braakman écrivait:
> * perl 5.005
> I've been assured that a working upgrade plan now exists and is being
> worked on, one that will not involve recompiling a lot of packages.
> I'll still be happier if perl 5.005 is introduced at the start of
> t
At 19:06 +0200 1999-05-10, Richard Braakman wrote:
* glibc 2.1 upgrade
As far as I know, this project is largely complete. There are one or two
bugs left in the backward compatibility code, and there's the question
of what to do with /dev/pts.
No there isn't, /dev/pts is taken care of.
* glibc 2
On May 10, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:
> I think that Power PC will be included in potato.
It will be definitly.
Hi,
I intent to package the following Perl modules:
- Locale::Maketext
Locale::Maketext is a base class providing a framework for software
localization and inheritance-based lexicons, as described in an
article in The Perl Journal #13.
Note that this is an underdocumented alpha release
Samuel Tardieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 10/05, Richard Braakman wrote:
>
> | * glibc 2.1 upgrade
> | As far as I know, this project is largely complete. There are one or two
> | bugs left in the backward compatibility code, and there's the question
> | of what to do with /dev/pts.
> N
I think that Power PC will be included in potato.
Am I wrong?
Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique
Quoting Ossama Othman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Hi,
>
> On 10 May, Richard Braakman wrote:
> > * GNOME
> > I wasn't there to see it, but I hear that the GNOME stagi
Hi, I'm one of the members in Debian JP,
and a self candidate to a maintainer in Debian.
# I have sent application mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] at May 05 1999.
# I have much curiosity at the processing time to join the Debian project.
# (I waited to join XFree86 as a non-voting member just 11days, 2
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:58:16AM -0400, Collins M. Ben wrote:
> glibc 2.1+ in potato is going to require a 2.2 kernel so this wont help.
> To be honest I am not sure how you passed the preinst phase since it
> should fail to even unpack the glibc 2.1.1. I'll look into why that
> happened.
What
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 07:06:58PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote:
[...]
> A number of release goals have been proposed. I don't intend to start
> the freeze until all release goals are in place.
[...]
> * Working disk sets for all released architectures.
> I don't know much about the plans for t
On 10/05, Richard Braakman wrote:
| * glibc 2.1 upgrade
| As far as I know, this project is largely complete. There are one or two
| bugs left in the backward compatibility code, and there's the question
| of what to do with /dev/pts.
Not largely complete on Sparc (we still have problems with
Note that the same problem occurs when using magicfilter with gs-aladdin.
Jay Treacy
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 06:43:44PM +0530, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
> I can't put in the 2.2.7 kernel now, as tar complains of chown problems.
Boot using the one of the 2.2.1 resc1440 disks from slink and copy over
the 2.2.1 kernel. You should be able to boot using that and be ok. If you
experience th
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Collins M. Ben wrote:
> On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:43:39PM +0530, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > I have seen others also talking about the problem, but there doesn't seem
> > to be a solution posted.
> >
> > However, the installation fails, as tar fails (chown pro
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 01:43:09AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:30:59AM +0200, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
> > : > Debian DNS administrators, please change nonus.debian.org to be a
> > : > CNAME for pandora.debian.org.
> >
> > That's what I call `democracy'. :-( -- Sor
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 12:36:33PM +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Um, non-us has been terribly broken since BEFORE I was a developer. In
> >fact, it was broken when I first installed Bo a year and a half ago.
>
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:32:44PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Don't ask me what it does, I just know that mozilla code demands it :)
Hm. Apparently, this already exists as part of liborbit0, so I'll
probably try to use that one.
--
enJoy -*/\*- http://jagor.srce.hr/~jrodin/
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:43:39PM +0530, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
> Folks,
>
> There has been talk on this for over a week, but I haven't seen a solution
> posted. I have managed to take control of my machine, by booting
> "init=/bin/sh", and starting the network manually. Even downloaded
> libc6_2
Hi all,
Don't ask me what it does, I just know that mozilla code demands it :)
So I'll package it. Download location is ftp.mozilla.org, but I'll try
to find the origin. The licence is LGPL.
If someone could grab it from me (either now, or after I do the initial
packaging), I would REALLY appreci
Finally, it turned out, that it is a bug in the NFS-code/-setup. When I copy
the file to a local hard disk (even with cp from a NFS mounted disk), I can
compile cvs without any problems (and even to times). Before it was impossible
to get Code which does not segault.
The NFS server is a SUN-Ul
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Um, non-us has been terribly broken since BEFORE I was a developer. In
>fact, it was broken when I first installed Bo a year and a half ago.
Not to mention that the European connectivity of pandora is _way_
better than tha
Folks,
There has been talk on this for over a week, but I haven't seen a solution
posted. I have managed to take control of my machine, by booting
"init=/bin/sh", and starting the network manually. Even downloaded
libc6_2.1.1-3, which I assume will fix the problem.
I have seen others also talki
I just noticed that debian.org has a boatload of nameservers:
# host -t ns debian.org
debian.org NS saens.debian.org
debian.org NS va.debian.org
debian.org NS pandora.debian.org
debian.org NS murphy.debian.org
debian.org
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 01:37:24AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
: On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:27:16AM +0200, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
: > Hello,
: >
: > is some of you maintainers willing to recompile the qt1-1.42 package
: > on a potato system and then do a NMU? (I don't have a potato system
: >
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 01:59:24AM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> > "Joseph" == Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Joseph> Save yourself some pain and use slang for the console
> Joseph> based installation.
>
> What makes `slang' a better choice than `ncurses'?
Besides
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 01:43:09AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
: On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:30:59AM +0200, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
: > : > Debian DNS administrators, please change nonus.debian.org to be a
: > : > CNAME for pandora.debian.org.
: >
: > That's what I call `democracy'. :-( -- Sor
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:50:11 +0300, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> checkin.o: file not recognized: File truncated
> /usr/bin/ld: cuddZddGroup.o: invalid string offset 285212672 >= 89 for
> section `.shstrtab'
> I would expect the problems more in egcs, libc6 or the kernel itself (the
> system reboote
> "Joseph" == Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Joseph> Save yourself some pain and use slang for the console
Joseph> based installation.
What makes `slang' a better choice than `ncurses'?
> "Dave" == Dave Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dave> Hi Everyone, There does not seem to be any objections to the
Dave> initial proposal of doing a setup API and perhaps rethinking
Dave> how we do an install. Would it be possible to come to a
Dave> consensus on this and dec
> "Andreas" == Andreas Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I think this is a very difficult point, how do you plan to
>> solve this, choose the right Xserver and XF86Config file for
>> the users system ? Or do you plan to use the fbdev server ? i
>> think not yet all gra
Hi, I am a member of Debian JP and use potato now.
There is some problems on dependency of magicfilter and gs with
Japanese support (which is in Debian JP at present ;-).
magicfilter 1.2-29 set dependency as follows:
Recommends: lpr|lprng, gs (>= 3.33)
but gs can not handle Japanese characters c
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 09:30:59AM +0200, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
> : > Debian DNS administrators, please change nonus.debian.org to be a
> : > CNAME for pandora.debian.org.
>
> That's what I call `democracy'. :-( -- Sorry.
Um, non-us has been terribly broken since BEFORE I was a developer.
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:11:42AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> > I've been distracted by revenue production for a couple of months.
> > Are we expected to upload our packages rebuilt for glibc2.1?
>
> It wouldn't hurt but I don't think it's necessary. glibc2.1 can
> drop-in replace 2.0 (unless
In order to package nis+ utilities I upgraded a slink system to potato
(apt-get, first libc6, then rest, then kernel 2.2.5 image).
Now a face strange compilation problems, like for the cvs package
$dpkg-source -x cvs_1.10.4-1.dsc
$cd cvs-1.10.4/
$debuild
[..]
gcc -I. -I.. -I. -I../lib -DHAVE_C
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 01:23:28AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
: On 9 May 1999, Guy Maor wrote:
: > Debian DNS administrators, please change nonus.debian.org to be a
: > CNAME for pandora.debian.org.
That's what I call `democracy'. :-( -- Sorry.
Heiko
--
[internet & unix support
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 04:08:34PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
>
> [Talking about tasks and profile from boot-floppies]
>
> > "brandon" == Brandon Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> brandon> I'd personally like to see a way to easily add a profile via
> brandon> dpkg -get-selections and
Hello,
is some of you maintainers willing to recompile the qt1-1.42 package
on a potato system and then do a NMU? (I don't have a potato system
currently.)
Thanks,
Best Regards from Dresden/Germany
Viele Gruesse aus Dresden
Heiko Schlittermann
--
[internet & unix support --
On 9 May 1999, Guy Maor wrote:
> Debian DNS administrators, please change nonus.debian.org to be a
> CNAME for pandora.debian.org.
Okay, I will send an email to the mirrors list and switch it over
sometime Tuesday evening. This switch will cause them all to fetch the
whole archive again, but it
Oscar Levi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've been distracted by revenue production for a couple of months.
> Are we expected to upload our packages rebuilt for glibc2.1?
It wouldn't hurt but I don't think it's necessary. glibc2.1 can
drop-in replace 2.0 (unless you have a program that depends o
At 18:16 -0600 1999-05-09, Bdale Garbee wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
I wonder if s/o is already working on this or if it doesn't make sense
to package it.
Given the BIND package will move to non-free in version 8.2 due to the
license
on the RSA code used for DNSSEC, it's good t
I've been distracted by revenue production for a couple of months.
Are we expected to upload our packages rebuilt for glibc2.1?
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 08:00:21PM -0700, Jim Lynch wrote:
> Mike Stone said:
> > I'm still convinced that the reason slink's freeze took so long is that
> > some major packages were uploaded just prior to it, because they
> > "needed" to be in. Just like people want to do with perl...
>
> There i
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 08:14:24PM -0700, Jim Lynch wrote:
> Mike Stone said:
> > Perl is just another app.
>
> For most distributions, this is true. Proof: you can run those dists without
> perl.
>
> For debian, however, Mike's statement is not valid. Proof: try to release
> debian without perl
Or the script could simply test and run like the init.d scripts do.
On 09-May-99 Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
>
> What if a package is installed, and puts a script in a run-parts
> directory or into a .d directory, but isn't configured due to a
> missing dependancy? The newbie "sysadmin" doesn't know
I'm seeing a few rather vocal people who really just want to release
ASAP for whatever reason, most are willing to wait to get stable, but
they still 'just want to get it out'...
I'm also seeing a lot of FUD being spread about perl5.005, guys, we
/HAVE/ a plan, the maintainer is busy working on it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zygo Blaxell) writes:
> "Why 78 characters per line of code?"
> "Because the laser printer wants that."
> "Why does the laser printer want that?"
> "Uhhh...because IBM made a business decision in the 1950's?"
I will actually point out that although t
Yea...I started a thread about this a few weeks ago...it seems to be an
issue and someone posted a theory (or an explanation..don't remember anymore)
of what was actually happeneing and a hack/fix for it I think..
Ivan
On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 10:14:25AM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote:
> Anyone else g
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > for (int nI=0; nI<10; nI++) ...
>
> Anybody who does that willingly must be shot. =>
No, no; no need for violence. Anyone who does that is already
suffering enough at their own hands and doesn't need external help.
Mike Stone said:
> Perl is just another app.
For most distributions, this is true. Proof: you can run those dists without
perl.
For debian, however, Mike's statement is not valid. Proof: try to release
debian without perl in any form. You're gonna find that perl happens to have
been made essentia
Mike Stone said:
> I'm still convinced that the reason slink's freeze took so long is that
> some major packages were uploaded just prior to it, because they
> "needed" to be in. Just like people want to do with perl...
There is a difference in this case: freeze is not in effect, and not
immenent.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>> Given the BIND package will move to non-free in version 8.2 due to
>> the license on the RSA code used for DNSSEC, it's good to see an
>> alternative that will be in main... even if it's less functional.
> Is it possible to keep an older version of Bin
> Just to troll "out of the box" a bit:
>
> What are the reasons for freezing in the first place? Distribution
> versioning is not something I know much about! Help me out.
> 1) A known (re)starting point.
> 2) Bandwidth conservation - offload from mirrors to CD-ROM.
> 3) Life is simpler for
Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > I wonder if s/o is already working on this or if it doesn't make sense
> > to package it.
> Given the BIND package will move to non-free in version 8.2 due to
> the license on the RSA code used for DNSSEC, it
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> I wonder if s/o is already working on this or if it doesn't make sense
> to package it.
Given the BIND package will move to non-free in version 8.2 due to the license
on the RSA code used for DNSSEC, it's good to see an alternative that will be
in main..
From: Edward Betts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Packages to give away (was: xfig and transfig)
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 01:56:47 +0100
> xfig and transfig maintainer here.
>
> I am not really sure what the question is,
Very sorry, but I want to know what you replied.
Thanks for your rapid reply.
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