David Engel wrote:
> OK, so package file names don't parse easily. Why couldn't the cross
> reference be included in the Packages file? It's needed by dselect
> anyway. Also, what about packages like ld.so where the file name
> doesn't match the package name (ldso)? What am I missing?
Working
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Engel)
> OK, so package file names don't parse easily. Why couldn't the cross
> reference be included in the Packages file? It's needed by dselect
> anyway. Also, what about packages like ld.so where the file name
> doesn't match the package name (ldso)? What am I
From: Simon Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> And why do we want this brain dead file system (which even M$ does not
> use for its own 1980 eras OS's) to boot a Unix O/S with?
Because it is the lowest common denominator, and it would let people
alter the bootstrap floppy from a non-Linux system before
> > I missed the first part of this thread. Sorry. What is the resoning
> > for this drastic change?
>
> Distribution file names don't parse at the moment because you can't
> disambiguate the package name from the version number. I had suggested
> that we standardize package names so that FTP
> Where does it say they are suid safe?
>From the smbmount(8) man page:
If the real uid of the caller is not root, smbmount
checks whether the user is allowed to mount a filesys-
tem on the mount-point. So it should be safe to make
smbmount setuid r
Where does it say they are suid safe? What is different between a user mounting
a NFS and a smbfs, why should normal users be able to do this?
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Package: xbase?
Version: 3.1.2-4
x11perf is not present in the current Debian distribution. The prescence of
manual pages and Xmark (a script relying on the output of x11perf) suggest that
it should be. A similiar situation exists for x11perfcomp and possibly xieperf.
Note that Xmark is present
Please, do not be offended but an introductory book to Unix may help you
here (to a degree).
> 1. I didn't have lp installed since the installation parameter screen
> for this said "line printer", not just "printer".
``Line printer'' is as valid in Linux as a ``tty'' device name. We do
not have
On Mon, 18 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Distribution file names don't parse at the moment because you can't
> disambiguate the package name from the version number. I had suggested
> that we standardize package names so that FTP scripts would work better
> and would not have to carry around a
I noticed that some but not all of the new packages
that get uploaded to the Incoming directory don't have
read permissions. Is there a reason for this? Are they
uploaded that way? I like to install the latest and
greatest as quick as possible. I know, that could be asking
for trouble but that's me
My grandma used to say that you catch many more flies with honey than vinegar.
> ...some dumb "problem reports system"
This is really an attitude/frustration problem. I know you must be
frustrated as hack by now but;
I sent you a detailed list of suggestions. Free of charge. I can see
that s
And why do we want this brain dead file system (which even M$ does not
use for its own 1980 eras OS's) to boot a Unix O/S with?
Simon
P.S. Please ignore the below address and flame [EMAIL PROTECTED]
He receives and answers mail :-)
Simon Shapiro Bullet
>> The 1.3.47 kernel module support
>>at least expects to find it in /sbin. I ran into thesame problem before.
> No, genksysm should be in /usr/bin (and the man page should probably
> not be in section 8)
Another way of looking at this is to check if the executable in
question is statically li
I've heard other reports of UMSDOS interacting badly with W95's long
filename stuff. I'd put it down as a `backup first' thing for now -
though I don't use either of them.
> umsdos with windows '95 filesystem might be a problem... With
> linux's msdos-fs I were not able to delete a director
> Isn't it just as likely that /var/log will be on a mounted filesystem?
> (In fact /var is a separate filesystem on mine.)
Ditto here ( and /var/spool is separate too). To be sane/safe, assume
that /sbin, /lib, and /etc are all that / has at boot time. Anything
else can be mounted on some mut's
Package: ksmbfs
Version: 0.2.4-2
The `smbmount' and `smbumount' commands are supposed to be suid-safe so that
normal users can mount and unmount SMB filesystems.
Could the package please install these suid root, or perhaps at least query
the user to see if they should be?
If they are installed s
From: Bjoern Stabell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> a common package format would be great, high priority for me at least :)
Thanks. I think going with a "redhat compatibility package" is the right
way for now, as it allows me to sidestep the esthetic objections for the
short term - the objectors need not
'Raul Miller wrote:'
>
> apache-httpd provides httpd (as does cern-httpd) so dpkg won't
> install one until the other is removed.
>
>This isn't completely optimal (for the people who want to use apache
>but also need a proxy server). Ideally, someone should write up a
>mini-howto on how to wor
Bruce wrote:
] For the short term, I will provide a redhat compatibility package that
] provides the symbolic links, etc., so that redhat packages will work
] on Debian systems. Thus, the ugly symbolic links will only be there if
] you ask for redhat compatibility. This is preparatory to arriving a
Does anything at all print or does everything, unider Linux fail?
How is the printer hooked up? Serial/Parallel/Ethernet?
I know not much about the Deskjet, but should you not process the
document through some fileter?
On the Laserjet, if you try to just dump raw text into the pronter it
will do
> No! It is a conffile because /usr/bin/fax, a bash script, was the
> only place to set your local fax settings as serial port, modem capabilities,
> INIT strings, phone number, prinyer what have you.
If this is still the case, then /usr/bin/fax should be a symlink into
/etc, and the script should
Ian Jackson:
> Right. In order to avoid having to rename lots of packages or change
> their version numbers I propose the following naming scheme for files
> on the FTP site in the `binary' directory:
>
> --[-].deb
>
> Note the two hyphens.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Engel)
> I missed the
For the short term, I will provide a redhat compatibility package that
provides the symbolic links, etc., so that redhat packages will work
on Debian systems. Thus, the ugly symbolic links will only be there if
you ask for redhat compatibility. This is preparatory to arriving at some
sort of way of
>> I'd like to suggest another field to be automatically added to the
>> "Packages" files that exist at the top of each hierarchy in the
>> distribution. I'd like to see a "Checksum:" field that can be used to
>> verify the correct download of these packages. I think including both
>> an 'md5sum'
Ian Jackson:
> I agree. Bruce, would it be too much to ask you to hold off making
> this change until we've got the issue settled ?
I'm waiting for Miquel van Smoorenberg, the author of sysvinit, to get
back to me regarding whether he will take over the sysvinit package. If
he leads, the users of
apache-httpd provides httpd (as does cern-httpd) so dpkg won't
install one until the other is removed.
This isn't completely optimal (for the people who want to use apache
but also need a proxy server). Ideally, someone should write up a
mini-howto on how to work around this simplicity feat
Juhana K Kouhia:
umsdos with windows '95 filesystem might be a problem... With
linux's msdos-fs I were not able to delete a directory; only got
'directory is not empty'-message even the directory were empty.
Are you sure this is because of w95?
You can also get a directory into this sta
From: Juhana K Kouhia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> umsdos with windows '95 filesystem might be a problem...
Good point.
What is necessary is for umssync to synchronize a Windows 95
filesystem, and umsdos to write long file names back where MS can find
them and hash short names the same way MS does. Ums
Karl Ferguson writes ("Packages/Contents under 0.93"):
> I'm just wondering - does the Packages* and Contents* files really need
> to be updated every day? There are no new packages being put in the
> 0.93 area, and therefor I'm no so sure we have to... Just saves the
> mirrors downloading the sa
'Michael Alan Dorman wrote:'
>
>> /usr/lib/apache is my choice for serverroot. Where the documents go
>> is site-specific. I'd like to also include an option to chroot httpd
>> to /usr/local/http or somesuch. Can dpkg install a package under some
>> arbitrary directory? If so then the preinst s
> I haven't figured out how to create a .changes file yet (any pointers
> would be appreciated) but it should look something like this:
You need the dchanges package. Ian Murdock has been holding off
moving it into the distribution. The last time I looked, it
was in ftp.debian.org:/debian/proje
What does AC power have to do with run-parts ??
run-parts is just a utility to run all the scripts in a directory.
I think you should think where else this problem should be solved -
possible the answer is to modify your /etc/crontab.
Yes. On second thought I shouldn't be running cr
> > I could make the bootstrap floppies support an FTP installation if you
> > would do the work necessary to integrate this method into dselect.
> > To do this you need a package naming standard - perhaps a deviation from
> > your plan, but easy enough to do and it would be of great benefit to us
I have rebuilt the m4 package as ELF (per Ian J.'s request) and placed
the binary package into ftp.debian.org//debian/private/project/Incoming.
I haven't figured out how to create a .changes file yet (any pointers
would be appreciated) but it should look something like this:
Package: m4
Priorit
On Mon, 18 Dec 1995, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> I believe under ELF it would actually be dynamically loaded are
> therefore not drag libncurses into perl unless you actually used it,
> but it's so wonderful I think it deserves a mention l-)
You know, you'd think I'd remember that, considering I w
>>>and don't like to be invoked without libncurses.so.3.0 handy. Is it
>>>really ok to move libncurses.so.3.0 to libncurses.so.3.0.new in pre
>>
>>I thought of an obvious solution to this problem, and I'd like it shot
>>down if possible:
>>
>>simply write the scripts for doing these moves in some
> > and don't like to be invoked without libncurses.so.3.0 handy. Is it
> > really ok to move libncurses.so.3.0 to libncurses.so.3.0.new in pre
>
> I thought of an obvious solution to this problem, and I'd like it shot
> down if possible:
>
> simply write the scripts for doing these moves in so
> > Let's say I have a package named foo-n with a shared library in it
> > named libfoo.so.x.y that, at least for the time being, must always be
> > available by that name, even while dpkg is moving things around. Now,
> > at some point in the future, I know that libfoo.so.x.y whill no longer
> >
On Fri, 15 Dec 1995, roro wrote:
> My bash is now (and should be in the future, maybe even with shared
> readline):
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:tty1:/lib# ldd /bin/bash
> libncurses.so.3.0 => /lib/libncurses.so.3.0
> libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5.2.18
>
> and don't like to be invoked wit
On Mon, 18 Dec 1995, Chris Fearnley wrote:
> >* Should we create a new user and/or group to control access to the
> >hierarchy of html files? If so, why don't we make it "official" and get
> >Bruce to include in the base /etc/group and /etc/passwd files.
> User nobody and group nogroup is either
Ian Jackson writes:
Ian> Right. In order to avoid having to rename lots of packages or change
Ian> their version numbers I propose the following naming scheme for files
Ian> on the FTP site in the `binary' directory:
Ian>
Ian> --[-].deb
Ian>
Ian> Note the two hyphens.
Could
'Michael Alan Dorman wrote:'
>
>On Sun, 17 Dec 1995, Chris Fearnley wrote:
>> This is a preliminary release. It seems to work, but I'm disatisfied
>> with my handling of httpd configuration (basically there is none - you
>> have to edit /etc/httpd/* by hand).
>
>Hmm. That's what kept me from rele
Ian Murdock writes ("Re: ALPHA-TEST permissions"):
> I'll give people another day or so to comment on this. If there are no
> serious objections during this time, I'm going to move the release back
> into /debian.
I agree - modulo telling people about it. Could you announce the time
at which you
Bill Mitchell writes ("0.93 -> 1.1 upgrade procedure?"):
> I had been running a hybrid system with the variously-revisioned
> elf development packages announced on 11 Nov. Those packages
> are now lost from my system, and I've now dropped back to a
> 0.93R6 system. What's the current recommended
Bruce Perens writes ("Re: coming soon"):
> I was talking about moving initrunlvl to /etc, not /var/log .
Ah, sorry, I misunderstood you too.
Ian.
Ian Murdock writes ("Re: coming soon "):
> I also agree that compatibility between distributions is paramount, but
> I'd rather convince Caldera, Red Hat, etc. to be compatible with System V
> than change Debian to be incompatible with it. We should make talking to
> them the first step in resolvi
Susan G. Kleinmann writes ("Bug#2035: dpkg-deb and dpkg share the '-i' flag"):
> I had been under the impression that dpkg-deb was invoked when dpkg itself
> was called with certain flags. If this is the plan, then the '-i' option
> to dpkg doesn't follow the plan. Here are the ambiguities:
>
>
Martin Schulze writes ("Where are the bugs?"):
> I'm missing bugs. In fact on ftp.debian.org /debian/debian-bugs/text
> only bugreports up to #1810 do exist. Where are newer ones?
We're working on it. The US bugs mirror is broken atm - use the UK
site instead.
Ian.
It's been a while since this subject has been raised here.
It is sometimes useful to mail authors of programs with "non-free"
copyrights to ask them to relax the copyright. This is generally
especially fruitful when the original copyright is very unclear or
badly-phrased, as this usually means th
> When R6 first came out I found exactly the same problem. If you compile
> SLIP/CSLIP into the kernel but *dont* load the modules for it, it will be
> fine. When image/source etc are updated (perhaps along with the boot
> disks) it'll be ok... Until the SLIP will work, just not CSLIP.
Bzzt. H
David Engel writes ("Re: ncurses-1.9.8a ELF release"):
> Let's say I have a package named foo-n with a shared library in it
> named libfoo.so.x.y that, at least for the time being, must always be
> available by that name, even while dpkg is moving things around. Now,
> at some point in the future,
Bruce Perens writes ("Re: New ftp method for dselect"):
> I used Andy Guy's FTP method for dselect to upgrade a bunch of ELF
> packages automaticaly this evening. It worked very well, and even
> detected corrupt and partially-downloaded packages when I used a kernel
> with networking problems.
Go
Bruce Perens writes ("Re: coming soon"):
> From: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >[Bruce wrote:]
> >>4. The /etc/init.d/functions file will no longer be used.
> > Please make it exist and be empty so that existing programs don't
> > break.
>
> How about having it exist and have its _current
Bug: 2032 & 2036. Printer stuck #3.
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"the problem reports system" sent me THIS:
Your message didn't have a Package: line at the start (in the
pseudo-header following the real mail header), or didn't have a
psuedo-header
Bill Mitchell writes ("Re: ncurses build options..."):
> Should all packages which use common unix commands provided
> by essential digest packages such as cat (textutls), echo
> (shellutls), mkfs (miscutls) declare explicit dependencies on
> the digest packages they need,
No.
> or is the fact
> > See if it works OK in non-compressed mode. I think the compression module
> > is buggy at the moment. That will probably go away once Simon, our new
> > kernel maintainer, is up to speed.
>
> It's a little less dain-bramaged, but it still doesn't work. It's just
> not executing ifconfig or ro
> See if it works OK in non-compressed mode. I think the compression module
> is buggy at the moment. That will probably go away once Simon, our new
> kernel maintainer, is up to speed.
It's a little less dain-bramaged, but it still doesn't work. It's just
not executing ifconfig or route for some
Sorry about the first message on this bug, I was trying to figure out how
to submit one and accidently submitted the gaff instead.
This report should have said:
Running kernel 1.3.43 in a 1.0 ELF system;
less-290-5 has been patched for the /proc filesystem, except that when
you less a proc fi
umsdos with windows '95 filesystem might be a problem...
With linux's msdos-fs I were not able to delete a directory;
only got 'directory is not empty'-message even the directory
were empty.
Juhana
>Okay, but the kernel makefile calls /sbin/genksyms explicitly, which
>is why I think *something* ought to be there.
>
>Actually I see now it is a kernel version issue: 1.2.13 calls
>/usr/bin/genksyms, while 1.3.47 calls /sbin/genksyms. What to do?
The makefile ought to call `genksyms'. The PATH
>> The `genksyms' executable is installed in /usr/bin, despite its
>> manual page belonging to section 8. The 1.3.47 kernel module support
>> at least expects to find it in /sbin. I made a symlink to pacify my
>> system, but perhaps it should really be moved there?
>
> No, genksysm should be in /us
Robert Leslie writes:
>Package: modules
>Version: 1.2.8-1
>
>I'm experimenting with the newer 1.3 kernels, so I'm not sure this is
>really a bug (yet), although it could be.
>
>The `genksyms' executable is installed in /usr/bin, despite its
>manual page belonging to section 8. The 1.3.47 kernel mod
On Sun, 17 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote:
> From: Bill Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Am I that confused. I thoght that the release presently reachable
> > through ftp.debian.org:/debian/development was the development
> > release.
>
> Yes. He means making it reachable to mirror programs that a
From: Bill Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Am I that confused. I thoght that the release presently reachable
> through ftp.debian.org:/debian/development was the development
> release.
Yes. He means making it reachable to mirror programs that aren't
explicitly looking for it.
Bruce
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