Re: Release management and package announcements

1995-11-01 Thread Ian Murdock
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 95 22:05 GMT From: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bruce Perens writes ("Re: debian-1.0 "): > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > it might create problems for the mirrors. > > I think that while it is in its current state, 1.0 should not be where > mirrors will fi

Re: ELF conversion

1995-11-01 Thread David Engel
I moved these first few parts to the beginning to get them out of the way since they're really side issues. > > I suppose this explains why > > dpkg doesn't squawk at me when I temporarily downgrade ld.so for > > testing when I know the elf-* packages explciitly require a > > semi-current version

Bug#1792: vipw, vigr missing

1995-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: miscutils? Version: 1.3-2 There should be vipw and vigr scripts for editing /etc/passwd and /etc/group. This is so that it is easy for the sysadmin to do the locking necessary to ensure that updates do not get lost. Ian.

upgrade and name change

1995-11-01 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
I just looked around a bit on my box via "dpkg -l" and saw that I had archie, xarchieR6 dvips, dvipsk fvwm, fvwmR6 ghostview, ghostviewR6 xdvi, xdvik xpm, xpmR6 installed. That is really quite some avoidable clutter. Not that I am in favour of crep

Re: Release management and package announcements

1995-11-01 Thread Bill Mitchell
> > > > Agreed. I don't think the location should be decided by individual > > > > package maintainers, though they will be free to suggest a location. > > > > > > The Section field from the control file can be used for this. > > > > If the SECTION field is not going to reliably contain the sec

Re: 1.0 issues: Packaging (esp. source)

1995-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
J. H. M. Dassen writes: > [Ian Jackson writes:] > > 7. Unpacking a source package should not require one to execute parts > > of it (ie, source packages should contain only data, not code used > > during the extraction). This is important for security reasons. > > If you don't trust the packaging

Bug#1791: dosemu troubles

1995-11-01 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Package: dosemu Version: 0.60.3-0 Michael E Deisher writes, replying to a private mail of mine Michael> I hope you don't mind me entering your comments (and my additional Michael> comments) as another debian bug report. Maybe we should have kept it private for an iteration or two to keep t

Re: ELF conversion (was Re: 1.0 issues: FSSTND compliance & preparation for a.out abolishment)

1995-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
David Engel writes: > > > This elf-available bit is too klugy for me. Why can't we just use > > > dpkg's standard dependency checking? Isn't that what it's there for? > > > > `Depends' lines won't stop you replacing an earlier version of a > > package whose dependencies were satisfied with a new

Re: Release management and package announcements

1995-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Bill Mitchell writes ("Re: Release management and package announcements"): > Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >Somehow the FTP site maintainer's programs also need to know which > > >section (subdirectory) the files should go in. I suggest that this > > >information be provide

Re: Release management and package announcements

1995-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
J. H. M. Dassen writes ("Re: Release management and package announcements"): >[Ian Murdock writes:] > >From: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >I think we should start with an a.out 1.0 tree. This will give us a > >bleeding edge tree straight away, and we can then use our incremen

Bug#1788: dosemu depends on xbaseR6

1995-11-01 Thread Michael E. Deisher
On Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:25 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I bet you still have an X11 release from the > pre-virtual-package-name area. Here I get Time to upgrade X on my machine. > For xlockmore, I have written Depends: xbaseR6 | X11R6 so that it > can cope with both settings. Good idea. --Mike

Bug#1791: dosemu troubles

1995-11-01 Thread Michael E. Deisher
Package: dosemu Version: 0.60.3-0 Hi Dirk, I hope you don't mind me entering your comments (and my additional comments) as another debian bug report. Hopefully, documenting these problems will prevent a lot of redundant bug reports. On Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:14 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Hi Mike

fvwm version 2

1995-11-01 Thread Austin Donnelly
In the reasonably near future fvwm version 2 will be released (ie, within the next few weeks, I am told). fvwm 2 has a radically different ~/.fvwmrc format, such that everyone will need to modify theirs before being able to even use fvwm2. The fvwm2 distribution will come with a shell script tha

Bug#1788: dosemu depends on xbaseR6

1995-11-01 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Michael E Deisher writes: Michael> On Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:30 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael> said: Michael> Strange. It installs fine on my system. Anyway, I'll upload a Michael> new, fixed package soon. I bet you still have an X11 release from the pre-virtual-package-name area. Here I

Re: ELF conversion (was Re: 1.0 issues: FSSTND compliance & preparation for a.out abolishment)

1995-11-01 Thread Austin Donnelly
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > >However, more directly to the point of moving elfward, I like Ian's >suggestion about a elf-available(8) test during preinst of elf-dependent >(elfish?) packages. It seems clean, simple, and effective to me. And if

Bug#1790: latex2rtf can't find fonts.cfg

1995-11-01 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Package: latex2rtf Version: 1.1-0 This command line: latex2rtf file.tex > file.rtf yields this error message: latex2rtf: ERROR: cannot open file 'fonts.cfg' even when fonts.cfg is in the "right" place: bash# ls -l /usr/lib/latex2rtf total 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3491 Nov 1 14:23

Re: ELF conversion (was Re: 1.0 issues: FSSTND compliance & preparation for a.out abolishment)

1995-11-01 Thread David Engel
> However, more directly to the point of moving elfward, I like Ian's > suggestion about a elf-available(8) test during preinst of elf-dependent > (elfish?) packages. It seems clean, simple, and effective to me. Perhaps, but just for this one, single, isolated case. I think you are focusing too

Bug#1788: dosemu depends on xbaseR6

1995-11-01 Thread Michael E. Deisher
On Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:30 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > miles:/debian/private/project/Incoming [root] # dpkg -i dosemu-0.60.3-0.deb > Selecting previously deselected package dosemu. > (Reading database ... 16206 files and directories currently installed.) > Unpacking dosemu (from dosemu-0.60.3-0.deb

Re: debian-1.0

1995-11-01 Thread Bruce Perens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > it might create problems for the mirrors. I think that while it is in its current state, 1.0 should not be where mirrors will find it unless they are explicitly looking for it. That means put it under private/project or something. We can have a few designated mirror sites

Re: ELF conversion (was Re: 1.0 issues: FSSTND compliance & preparation for a.out abolishment)

1995-11-01 Thread David Engel
> > This elf-available bit is too klugy for me. Why can't we just use > > dpkg's standard dependency checking? Isn't that what it's there for? > > `Depends' lines won't stop you replacing an earlier version of a > package whose dependencies were satisfied with a newer one shose > dependencies ar

debian-1.0

1995-11-01 Thread Ian Murdock
Should I physically copy everything from debian-0.93 to debian-1.0, or should I use symbolic links when possible to save disk space? I know it isn't a problem on ftp.debian.org, but it might create problems for the mirrors.

Bug#1789: time zone files not right

1995-11-01 Thread Raul Miller
Package: timezone Version: 7.8-1 It looks like something's wrong with the timezone files. I started poking around when I noticed that my time was daylight savings time. I could have sworn that it was set right yesterday (I remember setting a battery powered clock by my computer -- this clock is s

more on time zones

1995-11-01 Thread Raul Miller
I just sent a bug report to debian-bugs stating that I was going to submit a bug report on /sbin/clock for the miscutils package. I've not received an ack on that bug report, and might not check my mail again till tomorrow. This is just a note that I'm not going to submit a miscutils bug report.

Re: Debian for Linux/{non-i386} / source packaging

1995-11-01 Thread Bruce Perens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > The DELTA file is described by Bruce as containing patch input. I'm > thinking it'd be better to have it contain a script to debianize the > sources. The patch input itself (and perhaps multiple patch inputs > for the multiple upstream sources) could be contained inte

Bug#1788: dosemu depends on xbaseR6

1995-11-01 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
PACKAGE: dosemu VERSION: 0.60.3 PACKAGE_REVISION: 0 MAINTAINER: Mike Deisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> miles:/debian/private/project/Incoming [root] # dpkg -i dosemu-0.60.3-0.deb Selecting previously deselected package dosemu. (Reading database ... 16206 files and directories currently installed.) Unpa

Papersizes

1995-11-01 Thread kenny
Nils, I'm sending this to Debian Devel, as mail bounced when I sent this to you at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Nils, Sounds like a huge improvement over the old shell script. Can you send me a copy, or should I wait to grab it from the new TeX packages? As far as the paper sizes are concer

Re: Source packages

1995-11-01 Thread Bruce Perens
> Also, I get the impression (since you mentioned you have permission to > include things on your CD-ROMs that other vendors do not) you have had > more experience with dealing with authors who have distribution > restrictions --- do you think distributing original source as separate > files might

Re: Source packages

1995-11-01 Thread Bill Mitchell
Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Bill Mitchell pointed out that if we use totally 100% un-modified > extra-virgin upstream sources, debian-driven updates to debian source > packages become much smaller, since we're just changing the delta. [...] You're giving me credit for thinking furth

Re: ELF conversion (was Re: 1.0 issues: FSSTND compliance & preparation for a.out abolishment)

1995-11-01 Thread Bill Mitchell
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > `Depends' lines won't stop you replacing an earlier version of a > package whose dependencies were satisfied with a newer one shose > dependencies aren't. > > This is necessary so that you can install or upgrade your system in > any order. However, what we

Returned mail: User unknown (fwd)

1995-11-01 Thread Erick Branderhorst
> > > >- Transcript of session follows - > > 550 ac.netg.se... User unknown > > > > Hi Andres, > > > > Found a little typo in the description. > > > > PACKAGE: bison > > MAINTAINER: Anders Chrigstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > VERSION: A2.5 > > PACKAGE_REVISION: 0 > > Diff original des

Re: Release management and package announcements

1995-11-01 Thread Bill Mitchell
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >Somehow the FTP site maintainer's programs also need to know which > >section (subdirectory) the files should go in. I suggest that this > >information be provided by the `overrides' file on the FTP site, which > >is already used by the npd

Re: ELF conversion (was Re: 1.0 issues: FSSTND compliance & preparation for a.out abolishment)

1995-11-01 Thread Ian Murdock
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Engel) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 14:14:27 -0600 (CST) Some people have suggested that the stuff in /lib be moved to /lib/a.out or similar. This shouldn't be necessary as the ELF stuff that goes in here should coexist. Ah, yes. Of course. libc.so.4 and

Re: Release management and package announcements

1995-11-01 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
>From: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Ian Murdock writes ("Re: Release management and package announcements"): >> Are we going to start with an a.out 1.0 and migrate to an ELF 1.0? >> If so, I'd agree that this is what we should do (and what I'll do >> if we all think this

Re: Release management and package announcements

1995-11-01 Thread Ian Murdock
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:16 GMT From: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ian Murdock writes ("Re: Release management and package announcements"): > Are we going to start with an a.out 1.0 and migrate to an ELF 1.0? > If so, I'd agree that this is what we should do (and what I'll do >

Re: Source packages

1995-11-01 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: > The second file is an executable script that performs the actual > extraction, creating a subdirectory under the current directory > and moving files as necessary. Its name is EXTRACT, and it must have > execute permissions set. Bi

Bug#1785: Default font.

1995-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Juho A. Vuori writes ("Bug#1785: Default font."): > Package: kbd > Version: 0.90-3 > > This is not an actual bug, but in my opinion, it's not wise to have > default8x16 as the default font in /etc/rc.boot/console. Shouldn't it > rather be iso01.f16 in unix world? As I have reported several times b

Re: ELF conversion (was Re: 1.0 issues: FSSTND compliance & preparation for a.out abolishment)

1995-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
David Engel writes ("Re: ELF conversion (was Re: 1.0 issues: FSSTND compliance & preparation for a.out abolishment)"): > > 2. Secondly, we arrange that all the new base packages have code in > > the preinst that checks for the existence of the ELF libraries > > (perhaps by running /usr/bin/elf-ava

Bug#1787: forwarded message from Cron Daemon

1995-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: wu-ftpd Version: 2.4-13 The attached message shows wu-ftpd producing unnecessary output during cron.monthly. Ian. --- start of forwarded message (RFC 934 encapsulation) --- Return-Path: Received: by chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk id m0tAX23-0002YUC (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1

Re: Release management and package announcements

1995-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Murdock writes ("Re: Release management and package announcements"): > Are we going to start with an a.out 1.0 and migrate to an ELF 1.0? > If so, I'd agree that this is what we should do (and what I'll do > if we all think this is the best option). I think we should start with an a.out 1.0 tr

Bug#1786: Revision number not updated

1995-11-01 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
Package: perl Version: 5.001-5 [As noted by Brian White:] Perl 5.001-5 has 'revision: 4' in the control file. -- LOGIC The principle governing human intellection. Its nature may be deduced from examining the two following propositions, both of which are held by human beings to be true and often

Bug#1695:

1995-11-01 Thread Martin Schulze
reassign

Re: Draft: Hints for contributing to Debian GNU/Linux (fwd)

1995-11-01 Thread Erick Branderhorst
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Erick Branderhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [del] > > > 5. Beyond packages > > > [del] > > > > > > (eb) > > > * Option for automatic installation for local html documentation? > > > This needs to be discussed first I think. > > > (eb) > > > > I don't u

Re: Debian for Linux/{non-i386} / source packaging

1995-11-01 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, James A. Robinson wrote: > Now hold on a second there! What about packages put together from > multiple sources? Say MH with Linux patchs? I don't want to deal > with writing something that will be able to intelligently do the > patchs needed and then make the source. Tha

Forwarded mail....

1995-11-01 Thread Matthew Bailey
A day in the life of the FTP server 2.6 gigabytes today... Also if you can not tell from these logs/averages. I have added win3/win95/winnt mirrors of simtel to the list of offerings. :) Instead of running painful virtual ftp servers I have opted for a more generic way of doing things. I the