On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:17:34AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I probably should save this for the main discussion in -vote or -project,
Let's do that, and sorry for dropping this here, but having mentioned it
to Ian before, I didn't want for any of you to wait indefinitely for my
comment. So fee
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:45:42PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> If a missing mime file would mean an RC bug, this would instantly make
> 514 packages RC buggy.
> Interestingly, the particular section in the Debian policy is a should
> directive, not a must, so I don't understand the reasons f
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 01:55:03AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Experiemnts reported on debian-devel show that this `tight coupling'
> is more a matter of doctrine than an actual hard functional
> dependency.
>
> Indeed on two of our platorms network-manager isn't even supported, so
> it is just le
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:22:13PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on
> non-free packages in main"):
> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 09:59:33PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > How about instead we think about what the real issue is. T
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> > Right now I am waiting for the judgement of the tech-ctte regarding
> > nodejs. See bug#614907.
>
> Ah. Luckily, that’s almost resolved.
It has been resolved for days now, would please someone
implement the solution? I can, as offered previously,
Thorsten Glaser writes ("Bug#614907: [Pkg-mediawiki-devel]
[Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#680080: Invalidated by dependency: Excuse for
mediawiki-extensions"):
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> > Ah. Luckily, that’s almost resolved.
>
> It has been resolved for days now, would please s
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:31:15AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > The current wording, read literally, means that if I happened to run into
> > Steve Langasek, say, at a social occasion, I am not permitted to mention
> > network-manager and GNOME to him, because that conversation isn't public
Package: tech-ctte
Severity: normal
Greetings to the technical committee.
This refers to Bug #675971 (which is severity grave, and currently closed)
against the Mumble VoIP package, which is also affected by Bug #674650
concerning the removal of the CELT library. This evening we also just
disco
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:31:15AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>> > The current wording, read literally, means that if I happened to run into
>> > Steve Langasek, say, at a social occasion, I am not permitted to mention
>> > network-manage
Kurt Roeckx writes:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:31:15AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>> I would agree that if yours here is the common interpretation of the
>> current wording of the Constitution, then we have a problem. (It is not
>> *my* reading, but that's meaningless.) I don't think that
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 01:18:27PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:31:15AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> >> > The current wording, read literally, means that if I happened to run into
> >> > Steve Langasek, say
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 01:48:01AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Michael Biebl writes ("Bug#681834: network-manager, gnome, Recommends vs
> Depends"):
> > We thus tried a compromise, where the network-manager postinst script
> > automatically comments out dhcp-type connections in /e/n/i (and restore
Steve Langasek writes ("Bug#681834: network-manager, gnome, Recommends vs
Depends"):
> I don't see how this follows. If n-m has been newly installed and is in
> proper working order, and it sees that there's a trivially-configured
> network interface in /e/n/i that it can take over, and it does s
On 18.07.2012 23:40, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Secondly, it is possible for dhcp entries to be non-trivial. They may
> specify interesting scripts to be run, dhcp options, bridging, etc.
> It's not clear to me exactly which of these scenarious result in
> what outcome.
NM doesn't take over any such e
Hi ctte
I just wanted to bring here an argument that came in debian-devel: the one
that says that n-m does not play well with usb0 type network interfaces [1].
I have not tested this myself, since I do not use a laptop and do not need an
USB network gadget on my desktop, so I can not confirm it
Josselin Mouette writes ("Re: duplicates in the archive"):
> Le mardi 10 juillet 2012 à 17:38 +0900, Miles Bader a écrit :
> > What's wrong with Recommends: in that case? It seems to perfectly
> > match the "makes life easier for > XXX>" scenario you describe.
>
> Recommends is wrong for metapa
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: duplicates in the archive"):
> Josselin Mouette writes ("Re: duplicates in the archive"):
> > Le mardi 10 juillet 2012 à 17:38 +0900, Miles Bader a écrit :
> > > What's wrong with Recommends: in that case? It seems to perfectly
> > > match the "makes life easier for > >
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 03:32:43PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 10 juillet 2012 à 17:38 +0900, Miles Bader a écrit :
> > What's wrong with Recommends: in that case? It seems to perfectly
> > match the "makes life easier for > XXX>" scenario you describe.
>
> Recommends is wrong for
(Please would others avoid CCing debian-release@ and security@, who
are probably very busy and don't want to get tons of argument in their
mailboxes.)
The problem with mumble and the celt codec has been referred to the TC
- see the bug mentioned above. I would be interested to hear from the
secur
On 18.07.2012 11:14, Neil McGovern wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:45:42PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>> If a missing mime file would mean an RC bug, this would instantly make
>> 514 packages RC buggy.
>> Interestingly, the particular section in the Debian policy is a should
>> direct
Chris Knadle writes ("Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to CELT
codec library removal"):
> Package: tech-ctte
> Severity: normal
...
> This refers to Bug #675971 (which is severity grave, and currently closed)
> against the Mumble VoIP package, which is also affected by Bug #674650
>
Neil McGovern writes ("Bug#681687: missing mime entry"):
> As I understand it, there are still a number of issues with this
> approach (.desktop files do not contain enough information to get
> argument ordering correct in all cases, and it's far too late to start
> using a new auto-generation syst
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
> reopen 675971
Bug #675971 {Done: Ron } [mumble] Cannot communicate with the
vast majority of Mumble servers due to lack of required baseline codec
Bug reopened
Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #675971 to the same values
previously
On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 19:15:01, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Chris Knadle writes ("Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to
CELT codec library removal"):
> > Package: tech-ctte
> > Severity: normal
>
> ...
>
> > This refers to Bug #675971 (which is severity grave, and currently
> > close
On Ma, 17 iul 12, 12:35:20, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
> > 1. Is running a system with Recommends turned off a supported
> > configuration?
>
> I don't think it's really useful for the Tech Ctte to try to declare whether
> or not something is a "supported" configuration. What is supported is up to
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