On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:17:34AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I probably should save this for the main discussion in -vote or -project,
Let's do that, and sorry for dropping this here, but having mentioned it to Ian before, I didn't want for any of you to wait indefinitely for my comment. So feel free to go ahead with the broader discussion when you please. I'll postpone comments to the broader discussion, but let me point out a counterargument. > The current wording, read literally, means that if I happened to run into > Steve Langasek, say, at a social occasion, I am not permitted to mention > network-manager and GNOME to him, because that conversation isn't public > and that's an issue currently before the technical committee. I would agree that if yours here is the common interpretation of the current wording of the Constitution, then we have a problem. (It is not *my* reading, but that's meaningless.) I don't think that anyone would want to inhibit private discussions to happen at all. But I do think people would expect them to be reported ex-post. If you accept such a principle, you can have all the private discussions you want at conferences with Steve and on a private usenet hierarchy with Colin, as long as we agree on the fact that those discussions are reported publicly where appropriate (e.g. in the relevant tech-ctte bug log). FWIW, I know this is actually hard to do, after having noted down on random notepads "discussed $something with $someone" over the past 3 years of FOSS conferences :-) Note the above is nothing new and is just consistent with the well known mantra that most Free Software projects try to apply that "if it didn't happen on a mailing list, it didn't happen". I think the above principle would address your infeasibility concern. (OTOH I don't have at the moment specific answers to your comparisons with how other similar decision making bodies work in other contexts.) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} . o . Maître de conférences ...... http://upsilon.cc/zack ...... . . o Debian Project Leader ....... @zack on identi.ca ....... o o o « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club »
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