Re: Call for Votes (Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*)

2007-12-06 Thread Andreas Barth
* Ian Jackson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [071206 20:08]: > For the avoidance of any doubt, I don't think that decisions of the TC > should be interpreted as overruling the maintainer unless that is the > only possible interpretation of the resolution's text. > > In the past it has always been clearly sta

Re: Call for Votes (Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*)

2007-12-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve Langasek writes ("Re: Call for Votes (Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*)"): > On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 10:13:38PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > [1] Choice K: Keep current behaviour and existing policy, as above. > > [2] Choice F: Further discussion > > I agree

Re: Call for Votes (Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*)

2007-12-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Andreas Barth writes ("Re: Call for Votes (Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*)"): > I assume the voting means "we are not overriding the maintainer", i.e. > this vote doesn't restrict the right of the maintainer to adjust the > behaviour as he considers appropriate.

Re: Call for Votes (Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*)

2007-12-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Anthony Towns writes ("Re: Call for Votes (Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*)"): > This bug hasn't been reassigned to the committee so we don't have any > business ruling on it. ? That seems to be an oversight on the part of the petitioner. For the record, I agree with ev

Re: Call for Votes (Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*)

2007-12-06 Thread Andreas Barth
* Ian Jackson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [071202 23:14]: > -8<- > > (1) The REMAIL option should not be supplanted or supplemented by > anything in an /etc/default file. The current behaviour of the > mixmaster init script, to examine /etc/mixmaster/remailer.conf's > REMAIL option, is c

Re: Call for Votes (Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*)

2007-12-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 10:13:38PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > -8<- > (1) The REMAIL option should not be supplanted or supplemented by > anything in an /etc/default file. The current behaviour of the > mixmaster init script, to examine /etc/mixmaster/remailer.conf's > REMAIL opt

Re: Call for Votes (Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*)

2007-12-04 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 10:13:38PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > (1) The REMAIL option should not be supplanted or supplemented by > anything in an /etc/default file. The current behaviour of the > mixmaster init script, to examine /etc/mixmaster/remailer.conf's > REMAIL option, is c

Re: Call for Votes (Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*)

2007-12-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 22:13:38 +, Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I hereby call for a vote on the resolution below, which I sent round a > draft of on Friday and formally proposed yesterday: -8> - > (1) The REMAIL option should not be supplanted or supplemented by > anything in

Call for Votes (Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*)

2007-12-02 Thread Ian Jackson
I hereby call for a vote on the resolution below, which I sent round a draft of on Friday and formally proposed yesterday: -8<- (1) The REMAIL option should not be supplanted or supplemented by anything in an /etc/default file. The current behaviour of the mixmaster init script, to e

Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*

2007-12-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Anthony Towns writes ("Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*"): > No, I'm saying that we shouldn't be in the business of reviewing every > disagreement in Debian. And we certainly shouldn't leave the decision > as to whether we'll review any particular decision solel

Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*

2007-12-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 02:37:43AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > No it doesn't, it just requires not noticing an issue -- eg, by it > > not being brought to the tech ctte's attention at all (most > > decisions in Debian), or by the tech ctte missing it when it is > > (429761, 439006), or by the t

Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*

2007-12-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 07:38:00PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Having read the bug report I don't think there is very much to be said > in favour of the submitter's point of view. > Here is a draft resolution and rationale. > -8<- > (1) The REMAIL option should not be supplanted or supplemente

Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*

2007-12-02 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 06:40:36PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > Deciding that an issue isn't important enough to make a decision > > requires making some sort of decision. > > No it doesn't, it just requires not noticing an issue -- eg, by it > not b

Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*

2007-12-01 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 06:40:36PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > Deciding that an issue isn't important enough to make a decision > requires making some sort of decision. No it doesn't, it just requires not noticing an issue -- eg, by it not being brought to the tech ctte's attention at all (most

Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*

2007-12-01 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 06:19:00PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Anthony Towns writes ("Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*"): > > This is exactly the sort of thing I think we should simply ignore rather > > than issue any sort of ruling on. It's simply not important enough

Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*

2007-12-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*"): > Anthony Towns writes ("Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*"): > > This is exactly the sort of thing I think we should simply ignore rather > > than issue any sort of ruling on. It's simply not important enoug

Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*

2007-12-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Anthony Towns writes ("Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*"): > This is exactly the sort of thing I think we should simply ignore rather > than issue any sort of ruling on. It's simply not important enough to > be an issue. ie, unless someone on the tech ctte wants to champion th

Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*

2007-11-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 07:38:00PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Having read the bug report I don't think there is very much to be said > > in favour of the submitter's point of view. > > This is exactly the sort of thing I think we should simply ignore

Re: mixmaster /etc/default/*

2007-11-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 07:38:00PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Having read the bug report I don't think there is very much to be said > in favour of the submitter's point of view. This is exactly the sort of thing I think we should simply ignore rather than issue any sort of ruling on. It's simply