Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-26 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 10:01:44PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > No, Raul is not making that assumption. He's just pointing out that > the decisions about kernel architecture need different considerations > to the decisions about what to ship in a distribution. Exactly. > The alleged cost of the n

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2002-10-26 Thread MarcilioMJr
remove!!! -Mensagem original-De: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Para: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Data: Sábado, 26 de Outubro de 2002 19:50Assunto: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Bug#161931:kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>">>>" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]"): >> [Raul:] >> > I made an earlier comment on that discussion thread: >> > "This is an argument for the kernel a

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]"): > [Raul:] > > I made an earlier comment on that discussion thread: > > "This is an argument for the kernel architects. We're not kernel > >architects, however -- we're distr

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>">" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Raul> Perhaps I've missed something? >> On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 10:20:59AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Did you get Herberts mail detailing his objections to the >> inclusion of vesafb? >> I made an earlier comment on that discussion thre

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-26 Thread Raul Miller
> Raul> Perhaps I've missed something? On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 10:20:59AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Did you get Herberts mail detailing his objections to the > inclusion of vesafb? I made an earlier comment on that discussion thread: "This is an argument for the kernel architect

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Raul> On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 12:10:06AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> The ctte has no grounds to override the maintainer based on >> mere guesswork, since they can't in honesty claim to have better >> guesses than the maintainer. Raul>

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-26 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 09:34:47AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > Yes, you and Xu are of the same kind. You place some ideals (code > perfectness, even with harmless code) over user's wishes. Please, Eduard, this discussion is not about the people involved, it's about the technical merits of vesa fb

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-26 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 12:10:06AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > The ctte has no grounds to override the maintainer based on > mere guesswork, since they can't in honesty claim to have better > guesses than the maintainer. Correct. Instead we need to judge based on available evidence.

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-26 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Manoj Srivastava [Sat, Oct 26 2002, 12:10:06AM]: > Maintainability? There is more to clean code than mere > aesthetics. As the kernel moves towards initrds and modularity, > crufty Yes, you and Xu are of the same kind. You place some ideals (code perfectness, even with harmle

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> Well, certainly it's not decisive, but we're unlikely to get better Ian> information. We're going to have to decide on the basis of the Ian> information we have available, I think. Then I do not think we have enough data to overr