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Re: installer & docs?

2001-10-12 Thread Wookey
On Thu 11 Oct, wackode .! wrote: > Hi guys > > where can I find some documentation abaut creating some potato/modifed > CD's? The debian-cd package has a reasonably helpful doc on this, although it's primarily about how to build normal CDs with some mentions of what to change for your own s

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Wookey
On Wed 10 Oct, Ben Collins wrote: > I've brought this up before. I went to go get an ISO, and was presented > with 50 questions about what I intended to do with it, and what type of > person I was. It's rediculous, regardless of the issue it is trying to > solve. I sympathise, but any suggestion

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Wookey
On Fri 12 Oct, Ben Collins wrote: > > If we don't, then what room is there for making the user experience > > easier whilst still avoiding most people just downloading a whole 650Mb? > > Jigdo should make the PIK experience much simpler, which will definately > > help. Shall we just try an appeal

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Robb Kidd
Wookey wrote: > On Fri 12 Oct, Ben Collins wrote: >>There should be a list of links for the methods with _strong_ >>suggestions to use the PIK. Let them decide, don't force them to go >>through a freaking maze of irrelevant questions. I'm not sure the questions are *entirely* irrelevant,

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Richard Atterer
On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 04:08:52PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > So all we need now is a volunteer to fettle the website. What's > happened to Anne B - he's gone very quiet recently, and I think this > is his area. Actually, I was thinking of putting together a page with a list of all download possibili

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Alexander Skwar
Zitat von Wookey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > question - do we have the bandwidth to just serve people iso images? Hm, the ISOs are mirrord around the world on many servers, aren't they? Some of them host very many Gigabytes of data. I honestly think that the bandwith is there, since there are

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >(5) Download the ISO : a burden on servers, even with mirrors, and to be >avoided in preference to (3) or (4) if you -must- have CDs. One question I have about the whole pseudo-image thing: how does it save bandwith on a system that has n

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Ted Cabeen
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Blars Blarson writes: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>(5) Download the ISO : a burden on servers, even with mirrors, and to be >>avoided in preference to (3) or (4) if you -must- have CDs. > >One question I have about the whole pseudo-im

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Wookey wrote: > On Wed 10 Oct, Ben Collins wrote: > > > I've brought this up before. I went to go get an ISO, and was presented > > with 50 questions about what I intended to do with it, and what type of > > person I was. It's rediculous, regardless of the issue it is trying

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Alan
On Friday 12 October 2001 15:50, you wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Wookey wrote: > > On Wed 10 Oct, Ben Collins wrote: > > > I've brought this up before. I went to go get an ISO, and was presented > > > with 50 questions about what I intended to do with it, and what type of > > > person I was. It'

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Philip Charles
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Ted Cabeen wrote: > It doesn't save bandwidth on the clients. It saves bandwith on the > servers. There are a lot more debian mirrors than there are debian-cd > mirrors, and they're a lot better distributed as well. The rsync just > blends the downloaded packages into a is

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Philip Charles wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Ted Cabeen wrote: > > > It doesn't save bandwidth on the clients. It saves bandwith on the > > servers. There are a lot more debian mirrors than there are debian-cd > > mirrors, and they're a lot better distributed as well. The

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Philip Charles
On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Mattias Wadenstein wrote: > > At the moment there is no problem with downloading Debian iso images, but > > when woody is released ... > > Well, that is usually solvable quite good with a primary site that only > allows other mirrors to connect. After those 10-20 mirrors or

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread jason andrade
On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Mattias Wadenstein wrote: > Speaking as a cd image mirror admin: Yes. what you said. > Checking the list of mirrors europe seems to have enough mirrors to > provide easy http/ftp downloads. I don't know enough about the bandwidth > situation in US or Australia though. yes

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Philip Charles wrote: > On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Mattias Wadenstein wrote: > > > > At the moment there is no problem with downloading Debian iso images, but > > > when woody is released ... > > > > Well, that is usually solvable quite good with a primary site that only > > allows

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Philip Charles
On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Mattias Wadenstein wrote: > I know the problem, I'm already working on getting the filesystem big > enough to handle it. And if you know you are topologically close to > another mirror with lots of bandwidth that has them, it should take more > than a couple of hours to one d

Re: Debian ISO (Was: Re: [PLUG] RedHat 7.1 iso?)

2001-10-12 Thread Simon Lyall
On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Philip Charles wrote: > At the moment there is no problem with downloading Debian iso images, but > when woody is released ... The main download sites (not just the ISO ones) especially us.debian.org do get clogged up when new releases (and sometimes security updates) come ou

Re: Mark Montague: success report with sparc and hppa cd images (with minor issues)

2001-10-12 Thread Brian White
> I filed a bug on tasksel for this, but that was the wrong place. It's > actually a message from update-mime. The problem is that these packages are > not supposed to depend on mime-support, and just call update-mime if it > exists. apt-get does all the installations, then goes back and does all