On Fri 12 Oct, Ben Collins wrote: > > If we don't, then what room is there for making the user experience > > easier whilst still avoiding most people just downloading a whole 650Mb? > > Jigdo should make the PIK experience much simpler, which will definately > > help. Shall we just try an appeal to people saying "_please_ don't > > download the whole bloody iso unless you are too stupid to do it the > > other way" :-) , then list the options and see how that goes? > > The user experience is _not_ easier. If I, as a Debian developer have a > hard time with it (and I eventually gave up after five levels of > questions), then by no means is a user a) going to think it's easy, and > b) they aren't going to be able to use these tools anyway.
> There should be a list of links for the methods with _strong_ > suggestions to use the PIK. Let them decide, don't force them to go > through a freaking maze of irrelevant questions. I don't disagree with what you are saying but there seems to be a little confusion about PIK/JIGDO here - jigdo os a replacement for PIK which is a lot easier to drive as you don't have to find out the names or rsync servers or indeed any servers - you just select a file to download and it worries about where the parts come from and how to assemble them. So this deals with the part of the problem that a lot of people find PIK too difficult, but I agree is irrelevant to the point that the debian-cd interface is very offputting. So all we need now is a volunteer to fettle the website. What's happened to Anne B - he's gone very quiet recently, and I think this is his area. Wookey -- Aleph One Ltd, Bottisham, CAMBRIDGE, CB5 9BA, UK Tel +44 (0) 1223 811679 work: http://www.aleph1.co.uk/ play: http://www.chaos.org.uk/~wookey/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]