On 23/03/14 19:04, Michael Banck wrote:
As soon as the t1lib library package is removed from Debian, it is not
an embedded library anymore, just some code. It probably makes sense to
link it statically then.
And this is exactly what is going to happen. When an external t1lib is
not found, co
Hi,
IMHO, this discussion went well out of proportions...
On 23/03/14 18:47, Michael Gilbert wrote:
Embedded libraries are almost always to be avoided due to numerous
reasons listed in the Debian security documentation.
Right, but these reasons are inapplicable when the external library is
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:47:18PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
> > This is my summary, see below for specific replies to specific points:
> >
> > 1. Grace is not unmaintained, it is maintained in Debian by Nicholas
> > Breen. It also
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is my summary, see below for specific replies to specific points:
>
> 1. Grace is not unmaintained, it is maintained in Debian by Nicholas
> Breen. It also is not abandoned upstream, its latest stable release
> being from late 2
Dear Evgeny,
I strongly back your point of view.
As Neil wants a quick solution, I shall develop alternative depedencies
for expeyes which currently relies on grace: it will offer the
possibility to choose qtiplot.
I agree with you, a user which learned to use Xmgrace will grind loads
of work ha
Hi,
This is my summary, see below for specific replies to specific points:
1. Grace is not unmaintained, it is maintained in Debian by Nicholas
Breen. It also is not abandoned upstream, its latest stable release
being from late 2012.
2. As t1lib is superseded and unmaintained, it should be remo
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:08:14 +0100
Michael Banck wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:03:53AM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> > On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:38:49 -0700
> > Nicholas Breen wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 04:10:39PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> > > > I'm seeking the removal of p
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:03:53AM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:38:49 -0700
> Nicholas Breen wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 04:10:39PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> > > I'm seeking the removal of pygrace and expeyes so that grace can be
> > > removed. CC'ing the rele
Hello,
I'm the [passive] upstream maintainer. Just to make things clear:
1. grace is perfectly happy using its own copy of t1lib. So you can
safely remove the t1lib debian package.
2. Yes, perhaps only 0.34% of all users use it. But same can be said
about 90% of the entire debian archive (fo
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:38:49 -0700
Nicholas Breen wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 04:10:39PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> > I'm seeking the removal of pygrace and expeyes so that grace can be
> > removed. CC'ing the relevant maintainers (and filing important bugs
> > for each package). I expect
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 11:01:39 +1100
Drew Parsons wrote:
> Grace is one of the most useful packages in the entire archive.
... for 0.34% of users of the archive, maybe. To me, it is simply an RC
buggy package which has had no new development upstream since 2012 and
which depends on an obsolete,
On 23/03/2014 01:50, Drew Parsons wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-03-22 at 20:07 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Drew Parsons wrote:
>>> Grace is one of the most useful packages in the entire archive.
>>>
>>> I am not aware of anything other package that provides the same de
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 04:10:39PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> I'm seeking the removal of pygrace and expeyes so that grace can be
> removed. CC'ing the relevant maintainers (and filing important bugs for
> each package). I expect the removal to start in two weeks unless I hear
> back about a via
On Sat, 2014-03-22 at 20:07 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Drew Parsons wrote:
> > Grace is one of the most useful packages in the entire archive.
> >
> > I am not aware of anything other package that provides the same degree
> > of functionality.
> >
> > Removing
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Drew Parsons wrote:
> Grace is one of the most useful packages in the entire archive.
>
> I am not aware of anything other package that provides the same degree
> of functionality.
>
> Removing it is not a good idea.
That can be fixed by anyone willing to spend the
Grace is one of the most useful packages in the entire archive.
I am not aware of anything other package that provides the same degree
of functionality.
Removing it is not a good idea.
Drew
On Sat, 2014-03-22 at 16:10 +, Neil Williams wrote:
> > I've attached a patch that changes grace to
> I've attached a patch that changes grace to use its embedded t1lib
> copy. This is not at all ideal since probably most of the t1lib
> security patches aren't included, but grace is the last package
> remaining to drop support for t1lib, so it needs a change.
Swapping a buggy package for an old
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