Re: Is it _really_ dead?

2000-10-16 Thread Gary Kline
[[ ... ]] > > Probably wise -- Debian is not generally speedy. And dpkg is > undergoing some revamping at the moment. > > > I'm all for helping out with a common set of tools to manage > > packages between BSD and Debian which is why I was among the > > first handful or so of the peop

Re: Is it _really_ dead?

2000-10-16 Thread Dan Papasian
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 04:49:16PM -0700, Brent Fulgham wrote: > > Both the ports tree and the pkg_* tools (which are *very* > > similar in nature to apt-get, dselect, dpkg, ...) handle both > > build and run dependencies transparently. The big thing missing > > in the ports tree and associated to

RE: Is it _really_ dead?

2000-10-16 Thread Brent Fulgham
> Both the ports tree and the pkg_* tools (which are *very* > similar in nature to apt-get, dselect, dpkg, ...) handle both > build and run dependencies transparently. The big thing missing > in the ports tree and associated tools is when upgrading existing > packages to newer versions. There are

Re: Is it _really_ dead?

2000-10-16 Thread Steve Price
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 02:26:40PM -0700, Brent Fulgham wrote: # I'm not suggesting a textbook experiment. What I am saying is that # it seems possible to extend the apt-source tools to unpack software # packages into a BSD ports tree to allow a native BSD build of software. # It could handle bui

RE: Is it _really_ dead?

2000-10-16 Thread Brent Fulgham
> > The first issue that comes up in these discussions is the License. > > Most Linux systems are GPL/LGPL-based, while BSD's are (of course) > > BSD-based. This is usually enought to ignate a religious war that > > causes everyone to go home angry with no work done. > > I think that given the BS

Re: Is it _really_ dead?

2000-10-16 Thread Mark W. Eichin
> You make it seem worse than it is :) And there we disagree... anything less than proper dependency-aware upgrade simply doesn't count. This is a *hard* problem which is why so much of the value of dpkg is in the "interesting" cases it handles. It would be nice to see that independently appear

Re: Is it _really_ dead?

2000-10-16 Thread Dan Papasian
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 03:49:31PM -0400, Mark W. Eichin wrote: > > And I ask you: Why? Why would someone want to go through > > the trouble when the BSD ports tree is already there and tested? > > One word: "upgrade" > > Last I checked, simple things like "upgrading a package that has > depend

Re: Is it _really_ dead?

2000-10-16 Thread Mark W. Eichin
> And I ask you: Why? Why would someone want to go through > the trouble when the BSD ports tree is already there and tested? One word: "upgrade" Last I checked, simple things like "upgrading a package that has dependencies" was no better than "rip everything out and then reinstall what you upg

Re: Is it _really_ dead?

2000-10-16 Thread Dan Papasian
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 10:23:26AM -0700, Brent Fulgham wrote: > > >Alright I can't just sit quietly any longer. :) I don't remember > > >all the "flames" on this list that everyone is spouting off about. > > >What I remember was that there was a mixture of emotions of whether > > >this was going

Re: Is it _really_ dead?

2000-10-16 Thread Dan Papasian
glibc of any version will run fine in it's home in /compat/linux, using the linuxlator (syscall translation) As for it not being there natively, this isn't a problem. The BSD libc is one of BSD's strong points. -Dan Papasian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 08:16:16AM -0700, Anant K

RE: Is it _really_ dead?

2000-10-16 Thread Brent Fulgham
> >Alright I can't just sit quietly any longer. :) I don't remember > >all the "flames" on this list that everyone is spouting off about. > >What I remember was that there was a mixture of emotions of whether > >this was going to create a fork. The way I see it there are two > >possibilities here

Re: Is it _really_ dead?

2000-10-16 Thread Anant Kabra
ISFAIRC the major problem is that the glibc 2.0 is not ported to BSD yet. --Anant __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/