[[ ... ]] > > Probably wise -- Debian is not generally speedy. And dpkg is > undergoing some revamping at the moment. > > > I'm all for helping out with a common set of tools to manage > > packages between BSD and Debian which is why I was among the > > first handful or so of the people to subscribe to this list. > > I also did some initial work on porting dpkg to FreeBSD and > > made that available as a FreeBSD port to some people on this > > list. It was far from complete but at least it was a start. > > > > This is great! > > > Replacing the BSD userland with a GNU one from Debian or more > > precisely having just a BSD kernel with a Debian userland on > > the other hand is not something that interests me. > [ ... snip ... ] > > I guess what I'm confused about is what exactly all you BSD folks > want. This is the second or third message to this list that says > (my paraphrase): "We think some BSD/Debian cross-pollenation would > be good. But we don't want any GNU userland tools, and we don't > want Dpkg because we like the Ports system, and we don't want > apt because we have the pkg-tools. Oh, and by the way I'm not > interested in helping out with a system that would be a BSD kernel > with GNU user space." > > So what exactly *is* present in Debian that would be at all > helpful? >
Let me throw out a wild question to the group---and I believe that none of us is looking for, has time for any sort of flamefest; hopefully we've grown beyond that. What is wrong with the idea of a BSD kernel + libc and GNU + glibc. _And_ (at least initially) porting two userland /bin trees? We already share much in common, of course. Everything in /etc could take the best of both but would favor the SysV-style admin tools. (Admittedly, for me, it would be relearning what I used years ago ('86-'95), but for the sake of having to remember only one method of sysadmin, hey-- gary -- Gary D. Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] Public service Unix