Re: Debian FreeBSD

1999-11-19 Thread Tomasz Wegrzanowski
On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 12:46:37PM +0100, Per Lundberg wrote: > Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Of course that raises US issues so it's not going to happen, but it'd be > > cool all the same. > > Well.. the libc could be in non-US. With libc in non-US every program using libc wil

Debian GNU/FreeBSD

1999-11-19 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
Thank you very much for discusion :) I've upload some information about my project. Please look at http://master.debian.org/~dexter/debian-freebsd/doc/ There I've explained why this project called "Debian GNU/Linux" and what packages I've replaced. I'll try to create tar archive with base syste

Re: Progres?

1999-11-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 10:02:07AM +0100, Per Lundberg wrote: > Well, it doesn't work perfectly. Some system calls are missing. I did a > little test; I mounted my Linux root under /usr/compat/linux, and tried to > run bash, and it failed. dpkg seemed to start, though, so it's probably > quite comp

Re: Progres?

1999-11-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 02:41:31AM -0500, Adam wrote: > I beg to differ.. FreeBSD comes with sendmail configured to run just fine OK, my mistake. Generally, it seemed that not much configuration was done of the installed software, whereas Debian errs on the other side (too many questions). > by d

Re: Debian FreeBSD - experiment

1999-11-19 Thread Filip Van Raemdonck
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > On Thursday 18 November 1999, at 16 h 59, the keyboard of Piotr Roszatycki > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We discussed two approaches on this list: > - just using the FreeBSD kernel (and a few userland kernel-specific > utilities), everything else would be normal Deb

Re: Debian FreeBSD

1999-11-19 Thread Per Lundberg
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Personally if we're going to do a BSD and use their libc, I think we > should be looking at OpenBSD rather than FreeBSD... , strong > crypto in libc... Nothing stops us from doing both, you know. Personally, I just happen to prefer the FreeBSD kern

Re: Progres?

1999-11-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Friday 19 November 1999, at 2 h 41, the keyboard of Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it was easier to remove rather than simply disable (This is something that > needs work, removing unneeded parts of the base os) It is funny to notice that most of the discussions about that on the FreeBSD

Re: Debian FreeBSD

1999-11-19 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 10:37:29AM +0100, Per Lundberg wrote: > > We have permission to use the name "Linux", we don't have permission > > to use the name "FreeBSD" and aren't likely to get it since what > > we're doing isn't FreeBSD, it's DebianBSD or something. > > But DebianBSD is misleading, s

Re: Debian FreeBSD - experiment

1999-11-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thursday 18 November 1999, at 16 h 59, the keyboard of Piotr Roszatycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How is it different? You're thinking of the passwd.master (or what it's > > called), or something else? > > FreeBSD-3.3 have master.passwd with additional fields befor GECOS field. We discu

Re: Debian FreeBSD

1999-11-19 Thread Per Lundberg
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We have permission to use the name "Linux", we don't have permission > to use the name "FreeBSD" and aren't likely to get it since what > we're doing isn't FreeBSD, it's DebianBSD or something. But DebianBSD is misleading, since it doesn't tell which BS

Re: Stop Debian/FreeBSD

1999-11-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thursday 18 November 1999, at 22 h 6, the keyboard of John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is no mere political thing as you try to make it. What you and > others are trying to do is, in my opinion, seriously damaging to the > Free Software community. ... > WE MUST NOT ALLOW people

Re: Progres?

1999-11-19 Thread Per Lundberg
On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Well, Debian diskspace is already blowing out (for the archive, not > for installed systems). If the emulation works just as well, we can > save a lot of time by not recompiling. Well, it doesn't work perfectly. Some system calls are missing. I did a l

Re: Progres?

1999-11-19 Thread Adam
I beg to differ.. FreeBSD comes with sendmail configured to run just fine by default. Thats the main reason I and many others (probably) continue using it, just because its there and it works. Yes, it would be nice if it was easier to remove rather than simply disable (This is something that need

Re: Progres?

1999-11-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 01:03:37PM +0400, Alexander N. Kogan wrote: > I think, the better idea is to use FreeBSD port system in Debian ;-)) No thanks. Not as good IMHO. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB. CCs of replies on mailing lists are welcome.

Re: Progres?

1999-11-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 06:56:53PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote: > On 99-10-26 Clint Adams wrote: > > > We are mostly trying to create a better package system for FreeBSD in > > > combination with the other good aspects of Debian. If I seem to recall > > > the discussion at the beginn correctly. >

Re: Progres?

1999-11-19 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 09:24:47PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: > > Why bother porting non-base packages, since FreeBSD has linux > > emulation mode? > > What? Why emulate when you can compile natively? [I'm about 3 weeks late, but anyway...] Well, Debian diskspace is already blowing out (for the