Re: task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie

2013-06-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jun 02, 2013 at 08:42:00PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > On 02/06/13 20:27, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > If someone wants to have gnome or KDE anyway, he's can acquire a second > > CD, or access the net after installing packages from the first CD, or > > use a DVD or USB key or something

Re: task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie

2013-06-02 Thread Brian Potkin
On Sun 02 Jun 2013 at 20:11:48 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > Booting from USB has been a standard feature for ~10 years; see e.g. > . > So those machines may not be ancient but they apparently have a crap > BIOS. While we shoul

Re: task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie

2013-06-02 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 02/06/13 20:27, Hendrik Boom wrote: > If someone wants to have gnome or KDE anyway, he's can acquire a second > CD, or access the net after installing packages from the first CD, or > use a DVD or USB key or something bigger. That's an interesting idea... if CD-1 was XFCE, would it contain en

Re: task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie

2013-06-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jun 02, 2013 at 07:36:35PM +0100, Brian Potkin wrote: > On Fri 31 May 2013 at 15:11:50 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > > Michael Gilbert (31/05/2013): > > >> It would probably be good to get that discussion started early duri

Re: task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie

2013-06-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2013-06-02 at 19:36 +0100, Brian Potkin wrote: > On Fri 31 May 2013 at 15:11:50 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > > Michael Gilbert (31/05/2013): > > >> It would probably be good to get that discussion started early during > >

Re: task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie

2013-06-02 Thread Brian Potkin
On Sun 02 Jun 2013 at 19:36:35 +0100, Brian Potkin wrote: > For Debian we have the hd-media kernel and initrd. grub-mkrescue will > make an iso with them and include a grub.cfg. iso-scan will find > whatever ISO you choose to put on another USB stick. I hope Debian will > continue to support those

Re: task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie

2013-06-02 Thread Brian Potkin
On Fri 31 May 2013 at 15:11:50 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > Michael Gilbert (31/05/2013): > >> It would probably be good to get that discussion started early during > >> this cycle to reduce the surprise factor. > >> > >> Since it was

Re: task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie

2013-06-01 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Hi, I don't think this needs to be taken as a 'change of default desktop', just rather a change in how install media are offered. On 31/05/13 19:56, Michael Gilbert wrote: > Since it was rather difficult to fit gnome onto 1 cd in wheezy (and I > think some pieces were left off anyway), [...] If

Re: task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie

2013-06-01 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Michael Gilbert writes: > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >> Michael Gilbert (31/05/2013): >>> It would probably be good to get that discussion started early during >>> this cycle to reduce the surprise factor. >>> >>> Since it was rather difficult to fit gnome onto 1 cd

Re: task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie

2013-05-31 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Michael Gilbert (31/05/2013): >> It would probably be good to get that discussion started early during >> this cycle to reduce the surprise factor. >> >> Since it was rather difficult to fit gnome onto 1 cd in wheezy (and I >> think some pi

Re: task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie

2013-05-31 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Michael Gilbert (31/05/2013): > It would probably be good to get that discussion started early during > this cycle to reduce the surprise factor. > > Since it was rather difficult to fit gnome onto 1 cd in wheezy (and I > think some pieces were left off anyway), I think it makes sense now to > st

Re: task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie

2013-05-31 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > There's no final decision, it simply never was discussed at all. It would probably be good to get that discussion started early during this cycle to reduce the surprise factor. Since it was rather difficult to fit gnome onto 1 cd in wheezy

Re: task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie

2013-05-30 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Bob Bib (30/05/2013): > Did you finally reject that "Xfce-by-default" commit: > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=tasksel/tasksel.git;a=commit;h=2a962cc65cdba010177f27e8824ba10d9a799a08 > or is it simply lost in series of disabling / enabling / reverting commits? There's no final decision, it s

task-desktop: default desktop environment for Jessie

2013-05-29 Thread Bob Bib
Hi Debian Install System Team members, I just wonder what desktop environment will be chosen as a default for Debian Jessie. As for now, it's still GNOME 3. Did you finally reject that "Xfce-by-default" commit: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=tasksel/tasksel.git;a=commit;h=2a962cc65cdba0101