sparc32 2.4 kernel (was Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS)

2003-03-05 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >* Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030305 07:30]: >> uniprocessor sun4m works on some patched 2.4 kernels >Do you have some hints, which patches and what to be careful about? >I've severel sparcstation10 available and plan[1] to test th

Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-03-05 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030305 07:30]: > uniprocessor sun4m works on some patched 2.4 kernels Do you have some hints, which patches and what to be careful about? I've severel sparcstation10 available and plan[1] to test the new installer on them (network-booting is so nice with them

Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-03-04 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >For example, I have been away from using sparc, but my question would be >"is there much sparc32 kernel hacking going on? Is 2.4.x usable on sparc32?" sparc32 isn't a single kernel architecture. >From what I've seen on the debian-sparc ma

Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-03-02 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030301 22:20]: > > For example, I have been away from using sparc, but my question would be > > "is there much sparc32 kernel hacking going on? Is 2.4.x usable on sparc32?" > > Architectures that are still having problems with 2.4 should probably > be dropped. Si

Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-03-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 12:00:43AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Hi > > As some of you are already aware, there's a problem wrt m68k in that > there's no decent 2.4 kernel for m68k yet. As such, creating an m68k > debian-installer image that actually works is a bit problematic right > now, since

Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-03-01 Thread Herbert Xu
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For example, I have been away from using sparc, but my question would be > "is there much sparc32 kernel hacking going on? Is 2.4.x usable on sparc32?" Architectures that are still having problems with 2.4 should probably be dropped. Since they aren'

Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-03-01 Thread Junichi Uekawa
> > But you are right, we should get 2.4 working instead of hacking devfs into > > or out of d-i... > > Sure, but in the mean time we have to make sure there's an installer for > m68k that actually works. Else we could just as well shut down all m68k > buildd's, as it will not be worth it anymore.

Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-03-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op za 01-03-2003, om 00:16 schreef Petter Reinholdtsen: > [Wouter Verhelst] > > As some of you are already aware, there's a problem wrt m68k in that > > there's no decent 2.4 kernel for m68k yet. As such, creating an m68k > > debian-installer image that actually works is a bit problematic right > >

Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-03-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op za 01-03-2003, om 05:57 schreef Christian T. Steigies: > But you are right, we should get 2.4 working instead of hacking devfs into > or out of d-i... Sure, but in the mean time we have to make sure there's an installer for m68k that actually works. Else we could just as well shut down all m68k

Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-02-28 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 12:16:09AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Wouter Verhelst] > > As some of you are already aware, there's a problem wrt m68k in that > > there's no decent 2.4 kernel for m68k yet. As such, creating an m68k > > debian-installer image that actually works is a bit problema

Re: m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-02-28 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Wouter Verhelst] > As some of you are already aware, there's a problem wrt m68k in that > there's no decent 2.4 kernel for m68k yet. As such, creating an m68k > debian-installer image that actually works is a bit problematic right > now, since debian-installer depends on DevFS quite a lot, while D

m68k, debian-installer, and DevFS

2003-02-27 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi As some of you are already aware, there's a problem wrt m68k in that there's no decent 2.4 kernel for m68k yet. As such, creating an m68k debian-installer image that actually works is a bit problematic right now, since debian-installer depends on DevFS quite a lot, while DevFS will only be foun

Re: debian-installer and devfs

2001-03-06 Thread Erik Andersen
On Mon Mar 05, 2001 at 11:17:33PM -0800, David Whedon wrote: > > Right now, busybox init doesn't work with devfs. I have not > > looked into what changes are needed to make it work. I agree > > though, that if we do go this route, we really want to avoid > > the cost of devfsd, > > > > bustbox

Re: debian-installer and devfs

2001-03-05 Thread David Whedon
> Right now, busybox init doesn't work with devfs. I have not > looked into what changes are needed to make it work. I agree > though, that if we do go this route, we really want to avoid > the cost of devfsd, > bustbox 0.49pre-1 init does work with devfs, at least everything I've seen so far

Re: debian-installer and devfs

2001-02-27 Thread zhaoway
Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brian May wrote: > > > My understanding is that devfsd does three tasks (in default > > configuration): > > > > 3. loads kernel modules as required. > > > > 3 may or may not be important for boot disks, but don't overlook it... > > -- > > Any idea h

Re: debian-installer and devfs

2001-02-27 Thread Brian May
> "Glenn" == Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Glenn> Any idea how it does this how does it know if a Glenn> specific module is needed ? modprobe does that via /etc/modutils/devfsd (or rather /etc/modules.conf). So, the kernel "calls" devfsd, which in turn executes modpr

Re: debian-installer and devfs

2001-02-26 Thread Glenn McGrath
Brian May wrote: > My understanding is that devfsd does three tasks (in default > configuration): > > 3. loads kernel modules as required. > > 3 may or may not be important for boot disks, but don't overlook it... > -- Any idea how it does this how does it know if a specific module is need

Re: debian-installer and devfs

2001-02-23 Thread Brian May
> "Glenn" == Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Glenn> I think devfs without devfsd is preferable, i thought Glenn> devfsd was supposed to be a transitional thing for use to Glenn> catch situations where devfs didnt handle devices that it Glenn> should, and that as devf

Re: debian-installer and devfs

2001-02-23 Thread Glenn McGrath
Joey Hess wrote: > > David Whedon wrote: > > I've been playing with devfs. I'm considering it on the install system for the > > following reasons: > > I've been leaning toward using it too. Same reasons. > > > Does anyone have a feeling for whether or not we should include devfsd? My gut > > f

Re: [mi] Re: debian-installer and devfs (fwd)

2001-02-22 Thread Andrew Clausen
Luciano Baretta Mandryk wrote: > > I've been playing with devfs. I'm considering it on the install system for the > > do things like libparted work with devfs? I haven't tried out devfs. Parted operates on block devices (or ANY file), so in that sense, there is no problem. However, libparted

Re: debian-installer and devfs

2001-02-21 Thread David Whedon
If you run devfsd then symlinks are created from the old names to the new names: davidw@meow:~$ ls -la /dev/hda1 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 33 Feb 21 20:14 /dev/hda1 -> ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 davidw@meow:~$ So programs like libparted can find the device they were looking f

Re: debian-installer and devfs

2001-02-21 Thread Joey Hess
David Whedon wrote: > I've been playing with devfs. I'm considering it on the install system for the > following reasons: I've been leaning toward using it too. Same reasons. > Does anyone have a feeling for whether or not we should include devfsd? My gut > feeling is no, as it will cost 20-30k

Re: debian-installer and devfs

2001-02-21 Thread Erik Andersen
On Wed Feb 21, 2001 at 10:12:58PM -0800, David Whedon wrote: > I've been playing with devfs. I'm considering it on the install system for the > following reasons: > - allow for entire root filesystem on read-only media (cdrom) > - cleaner way to build install disks, don't need to be root and mkno

Re: debian-installer and devfs

2001-02-21 Thread Randolph Chung
In reference to a message from David Whedon, dated Feb 21: > I've been playing with devfs. I'm considering it on the install system for the do things like libparted work with devfs? randolph -- Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.TauSq.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PRO

debian-installer and devfs

2001-02-21 Thread David Whedon
I've been playing with devfs. I'm considering it on the install system for the following reasons: - allow for entire root filesystem on read-only media (cdrom) - cleaner way to build install disks, don't need to be root and mknod or copy form /dev - it is a saner naming scheme. - anything else?