Re: non-installable binaries in main (was Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED)

2000-07-05 Thread Joey Hess
Alvaro wrote: > Where can I take a look at the new installer being developed, or is it just > an idea yet? It's only an idea at this point. It'll be developed on debian-boot. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: non-installable binaries in main (was Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED)

2000-07-03 Thread bug1
Alvaro wrote: > > This assumption is false. The new installer is going to be modular, and > it will be able to start from a very small base (1 floppy, we hope) and > retrieve other modules as needed from various sources (like cd's, > floppies, and the network). >

Re: non-installable binaries in main (was Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED)

2000-07-03 Thread Alvaro
This assumption is false. The new installer is going to be modular, and it will be able to start from a very small base (1 floppy, we hope) and retrieve other modules as needed from various sources (like cd's, floppies, and the network). Where can I take a look at

Re: non-installable binaries in main (was Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED)

2000-07-02 Thread Joey Hess
Note that I've bonced it to the correct submit address. D'oh. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: non-installable binaries in main (was Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED)

2000-07-02 Thread Joey Hess
Package: ftp.debian.org Version: 2 Jul 2000, woody Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > It'd be best if you could bug ftp.debian.org about it. Ok, here goes. For woody, the boot-floppies team has plans to rewrite the Debian installer from the ground up, converting it to use a modular architecture in

Re: non-installable binaries in main (was Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED)

2000-07-02 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 02:49:15PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > This assumption is false. Ok. In that case most of my issues about this are not anymore. > I hink bug1 summed up everything else pretty well. I myself favor his > option #2; adding a directory to disks-* and putting the debs in there.

Re: non-installable binaries in main (was Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED)

2000-07-01 Thread Joey Hess
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > In other words, there would be packages in main which can never be > installed on a system. I don't see how such packages need to be in > the regular distribution, burned on the CDs, mirrored worldwide etc. > They are USELESS execpt if you're building the installat

non-installable binaries in main (was Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED)

2000-07-01 Thread bug1
A recent thread on debian-boot concerns wether busybox should be allowed into woody as a seperate package. Busybox is a vital component of the installer but would NOT be useable or installable post install. The reason for rejection On Sat Jul 01, 2000 at 11:27:31AM -0400, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho w

Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2000-07-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 01:02:54PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > Why does it *have* to be a .deb? > > Quite possibly because you can't upload source only and all uploads have > to include a .deb? Atleast last I checked that was the case. Perhaps I should rephrase: why does it need to be part of

Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2000-07-01 Thread Ben Collins
> > The only other alternative is to provide a source .deb instead > > of a binary package. > > Why does it *have* to be a .deb? Quite possibly because you can't upload source only and all uploads have to include a .deb? Atleast last I checked that was the case. -- ---===-=-==

Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2000-07-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 12:55:12PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > No one is against discussing it. It was already discussed with the people > that matter. Who are the people that matter? > If it can't be installed, and it is documented as such in the > package description, then I see nothing of how

Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2000-07-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 07:58:39PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 12:40:55PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > I don't think he undertstands that this "package" was previously an > > integral part of the boot-floppies package and has since been split out > > for easier

Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2000-07-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 12:40:55PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > I don't think he undertstands that this "package" was previously an > integral part of the boot-floppies package and has since been split out > for easier maintainence. "Easy maintenance" is not a valid reason to include noninstallabl

Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2000-07-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 10:24:53AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote: > This package is _supposed_ to violate policy. It is to be used exclusivly by > the debian-installer. There is no way you could ever even install it onto your > workstation, since it conflicts with dpkg. Then why is it going into

Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2000-07-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 10:24:53AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote: > On Sat Jul 01, 2000 at 11:27:31AM -0400, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > This package violates policy in several ways: > > - first of all, the busybox binary package does not include > > a copyright file, a changelog file or

Re: busybox_0.45-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2000-07-01 Thread Erik Andersen
On Sat Jul 01, 2000 at 11:27:31AM -0400, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > This package violates policy in several ways: > - first of all, the busybox binary package does not include > a copyright file, a changelog file or - indeed - a > /usr/[share/]doc/ directory! > > - second of all