Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2012-10-03 Thread YunQiang Su
I patched vlan to work with VLAN for linux and kfreebsd now. While I have no idea whether we should load 8021q module manually. I seems that 8021q module is not included in d-i (Linux). Thanks for Aron Xu to write the templates. -- YunQiang Su vlan.diff Description: Binary data

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-02-01 Thread Otavio Salvador
Hello, On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > j...@raven.inka.de wrote: > >> 8021q.ko   32328 bytes >>  garp.ko   13460 bytes >>   stp.ko    4456 bytes > > I still do not think that garp.ko and stp.ko are useful in d-i. The problem is not usability but dependency: ota...@neumann:

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-02-01 Thread Marco d'Itri
j...@raven.inka.de wrote: > 8021q.ko 32328 bytes > garp.ko 13460 bytes > stp.ko4456 bytes I still do not think that garp.ko and stp.ko are useful in d-i. -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-31 Thread Otavio Salvador
Hello, On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Josef Wolf wrote: > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 08:41:25PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: >> >> At any rate, the size of the initrd isn't a download problem so much as an >> installer memory footprint problem -- which isn't mitigated by using an >> install CD. >

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-30 Thread Josef Wolf
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 08:41:25PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > At any rate, the size of the initrd isn't a download problem so much as an > installer memory footprint problem -- which isn't mitigated by using an > install CD. > [ ... ] > > > We usually don't do make such changes lightly. > >

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 09:48:38AM +0100, Josef Wolf wrote: > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 01:07:04AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > > On Saturday 30 January 2010, Josef Wolf wrote: > > > Would be just a change in a config option, right? So that's not really a > > > big deal and could be done independently o

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-30 Thread Josef Wolf
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 01:07:04AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > On Saturday 30 January 2010, Josef Wolf wrote: > > This is why my original proposal was to decide from the value of > > netcfg/chosen_interface whether to load/configure all the vlan stuff. > > So you would *always* show vlan interfaces,

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-29 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 01:07:04AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > On Saturday 30 January 2010, Josef Wolf wrote: > > This is why my original proposal was to decide from the value of > > netcfg/chosen_interface whether to load/configure all the vlan stuff. > > So you would *always* show vlan interfaces,

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 30 January 2010, Josef Wolf wrote: > This is why my original proposal was to decide from the value of > netcfg/chosen_interface whether to load/configure all the vlan stuff. So you would *always* show vlan interfaces, even for regular users on normal systems? I don't think I like that

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-29 Thread Josef Wolf
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 02:54:58PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > On Friday 29 January 2010, Josef Wolf wrote: > > But at that time the interface chosen interface is not known. So > > deducing from chosen interface name (as outlined above) is not possible > > and this method would only work with preseed

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 29 January 2010, Josef Wolf wrote: > But at that time the interface chosen interface is not known. So > deducing from chosen interface name (as outlined above) is not possible > and this method would only work with preseeding or if additional > questions are asked. No. The sequence shoul

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 29 January 2010, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 09:35:47PM +0100, Josef Wolf wrote: > > 2. Install vlan package into installer environment. Only the vconfig > >binary (9kb) is really needed. But it needs libc6. Is this an > > issue? > > Not needed: > | config VCONFIG >

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-29 Thread Josef Wolf
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 09:44:21AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: Thanks for your response, Frans! > On Friday 29 January 2010, Josef Wolf wrote: > > Since the interface name can be used to decide whether to activate vlan > > support, no new debconf questions (like netcfg/enable_vlan or something) > > a

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-29 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 09:35:47PM +0100, Josef Wolf wrote: > 2. Install vlan package into installer environment. Only the vconfig >binary (9kb) is really needed. But it needs libc6. Is this an issue? Not needed: | config VCONFIG | bool "vconfig" | default n | help |

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-29 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 01:25:42PM +0100, Josef Wolf wrote: > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:49:50AM +, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > >The rest would be mostly straight forward: load stp, garp and 8021q > > >modules, > > Why do you believe that STP and GARP are needed for a network edge node? > In most

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-29 Thread Josef Wolf
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:49:50AM +, Marco d'Itri wrote: > j...@raven.inka.de wrote: > > >The rest would be mostly straight forward: load stp, garp and 8021q modules, > Why do you believe that STP and GARP are needed for a network edge node? In most cases, VLAN means _lots_ of interfaces, so

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-29 Thread Marco d'Itri
j...@raven.inka.de wrote: >The rest would be mostly straight forward: load stp, garp and 8021q modules, Why do you believe that STP and GARP are needed for a network edge node? -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 29 January 2010, Josef Wolf wrote: > Since the interface name can be used to decide whether to activate vlan > support, no new debconf questions (like netcfg/enable_vlan or something) > are needed, IMHO. Doesn't that already answer your question about the user interface? :-) One request

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-28 Thread Josef Wolf
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 09:35:47PM +0100, Josef Wolf wrote: > AFAICS, getting vlan support into the installer needs to be done in three > steps: > > 1. Get 8021q kernel module into installer environment. > > 2. Install vlan package into installer environment. Only the vconfig >binary (9kb) is

Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important

2010-01-17 Thread Josef Wolf
On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 01:37:50PM +0100, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > > I hacked VLAN support into the Sarge installer once upon a time. It > wasn't a big deal, like adding the vconfig binary and extending netcfg > here and there a little bit. The problem is that you can't just > download it like the