On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:29:13PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > LVM allows combining partitions ("physical volumes") to form a
> > virtual disk ("volume group"), which can then be divided into virtual
> > partitions ("logical volumes
Hello,
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Christian Perrier wrote:
[...]
> LVM allows combining partitions ("physical volumes") to form a
> virtual disk ("volume group"), which can then be divided into virtual
> partitions ("logical volumes"). Volume groups and logical volumes may span
> several ph
Hello Colin,
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Colin Watson wrote:
> After talking with Christian. I'd like to add online help for
> partman-lvm. How about the following template? I've reduced it from the
> text in the d-i manual.
I like the idea a lot but one part of it w
Quoting Colin Watson (cjwat...@debian.org):
> Template: partman-lvm/help
> Type: note
> # :sl3:
> _Description: Logical Volume Management
> A common situation for system administrators is to find that some disk
> partition (usually the most important one) is short on space, while some
> other p
After talking with Christian. I'd like to add online help for
partman-lvm. How about the following template? I've reduced it from the
text in the d-i manual.
(I left out the part about creating physical volumes since I think we
ought to address that by UI changes in partman-lvm so tha
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 01:11:27PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> +/* Set up the help button if necessary. FIXME: We only offer help for
> + * the first question with help text in any given question box. It's not
> + * clear what the right thing to do here is.
> + */
The best I can i
I've committed this now.
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On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 01:11:27PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> Index: src/modules/db/mysql/create.sql
> ===
> --- src/modules/db/mysql/create.sql (revision 59150)
> +++ src/modules/db/mysql/create.sql (working copy)
> @@ -33,6 +33
@@
+cdebconf (0.143) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
+
+ * Add online help support. The "Help" field in a template may refer to
+another template whose description contains help text; frontends may use
+this to display online help on request. Currently implemented for the
+text, newt, an
the GNOME frontend is blocked on somebody figuring out how
on earth to deal with it in the weird (and deprecated) druid interface
used there. I haven't looked at the KDE frontend. None of this is at all
high-priority for me.
I refrained from adding a capability indicating the availability o
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:50:34PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> The design I currently believe to be sensible is to add an optional
> 'Help' field to debconf questions. This field would contain the name of
> another question, probably Type: text, whose Description would contain
> the help text to b
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 07:21:35AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> I like this...a lot. The implementation you propose is indeed very
> simple and doesn't seem really invasive (except for the impact of
> translations of large amount of texts).
Dependent on what online help we ac
Quoting Colin Watson (cjwat...@debian.org):
> The design I currently believe to be sensible is to add an optional
> 'Help' field to debconf questions. This field would contain the name of
> another question, probably Type: text, whose Description would contain
> the help text to be displayed (tran
To my knowledge, d-i has online help text available in precisely two
places right now:
1) the help line the newt frontend uses to advise you what keys you
can press (and similar in other frontends)
2) the special-purpose partitioning help screen
While obviously we all want to produce
On Tue Jun 12, 2001 at 09:46:10PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> Erik Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Oh, thats right.
> > I wonder if I should trim out some of the fat in the .deb then.
> > For example, the .deb contains the busybox shell (lash), which
> > is not being used... I exp
>
> I agree with Erik.
>
> Chris' documentation is good, but should be part of the documentation,
> not actually something on the root disk.
>
> /me has spoken.
Thanks -- I'll probably find a place for it eventually, and it needs some
more work in any case :-)
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"Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In my case I did end up finding a quick reference sheet on the web after my
> first few weeks of trying to get Debian installed. But it didn't include
> many of the commands that are available, and was bash-oriented, so it really
> wasn't much help.
"Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> New users feel completely lost; even if the information is right there, they
> don't know how to get at it.
No, new users shouldn't have to use tty2 at all.
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I agree with Erik.
Chris' documentation is good, but should be part of the documentation,
not actually something on the root disk.
/me has spoken.
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Erik Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Oh, thats right.
> I wonder if I should trim out some of the fat in the .deb then.
> For example, the .deb contains the busybox shell (lash), which
> is not being used... I expect a bit of hunting could find a
> fw others.
Fat trimming sounds worthw
> I'll propose the following, and I can help too, probably, if this sounds like
a
> good idea:
>
> 1. translate config.XX.h in busybox. This would give us a common base for
> creating i18n help files.
> One of the following:
> A. provide just compile time i18n of busybox plus the creation of a n
David Whedon wrote:
>The nice things i see about this is that the messages have a chance of being
>maintained if put into busybox cvs. The problem is that they are separated from
>the people who actually want the messages to exist (Debian), though not too far,
>since busybox is pretty Debian fri
On Mon Jun 11, 2001 at 02:03:21PM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
> Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:55:40PM +0200 wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:42:51AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
> > > On Sun Jun 10, 2001 at 08:38:50PM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
> > > > That is a good point. The suggestion of dynmica
Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:55:40PM +0200 wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:42:51AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
> > On Sun Jun 10, 2001 at 08:38:50PM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
> > > That is a good point. The suggestion of dynmically using the busybox help
> > > probably doesn't treat transloations
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:42:51AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
> On Sun Jun 10, 2001 at 08:38:50PM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
> > That is a good point. The suggestion of dynmically using the busybox help
> > probably doesn't treat transloations very well, unless busybox wants translated
> > help.
On Mon Jun 11, 2001 at 10:29:33AM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
>
> > On x86:
> >
> > [root@slag busybox_udeb_builddir]# ll ./busybox.help
> > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 148988 Jun 11 10:48 ./busybox.help*
> > [root@slag busybox_udeb_builddir]# ll ./busybox.orig
> >
Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:51:43AM -0600 wrote:
> On Sun Jun 10, 2001 at 02:52:50PM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
> >
> > FWIW busybox does have better help if you turn it on :
> > bb with very little help:
> > -rwxr-xr-x root/root180316 2001-06-10 14:22:28 ./bin/busybox
> >
> > bb with better hel
On Sun Jun 10, 2001 at 02:52:50PM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
>
> FWIW busybox does have better help if you turn it on :
> bb with very little help:
> -rwxr-xr-x root/root180316 2001-06-10 14:22:28 ./bin/busybox
>
> bb with better help:
> -rwxr-xr-x root/root195804 2001-06-10 14:29:32 ./b
On Sun Jun 10, 2001 at 08:38:50PM -0700, David Whedon wrote:
> That is a good point. The suggestion of dynmically using the busybox help
> probably doesn't treat transloations very well, unless busybox wants translated
> help.
I'm willing to accept patches to properly internationalize busybox.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:27:11AM -0300, Peter Cordes wrote:
> gzipping a gzipped file doesn't make it any smaller, so compressing before
> making it part of the filesystem won't save space. The larger filesystem
> created by leaving it uncompressed will be matched by the better
> compressabil
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 09:34:50PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 04:41:59PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> > >>
> > >> nano-tiny -T15 -v /help.txt
> > >
> > > why not zcat /help.gz | more ?
> >
> > That would work, but I used tabs to make two columns; using the editor le
> please send a updated version of your help doc formatted to work with
> more and i can apply it.
OK, thanks. I'll hang out a couple of days to see what other inputs I get on
it too.
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On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 04:41:59PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> >>
> >> nano-tiny -T15 -v /help.txt
> >
> > why not zcat /help.gz | more ?
>
> That would work, but I used tabs to make two columns; using the editor lets
> me choose how much space for a tab so it's more readable and also gives
> That is a good point. The suggestion of dynmically using the busybox help
> probably doesn't treat transloations very well, unless busybox wants
translated
> help.
>
> -David
I played around with the dynamic thing a little bit, it probably wouldn't
work out well in any case.
As far as duplica
egrating it in boot-floppies/documentation tree so all
> translators can localize it ?
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 02:15:16PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> > The online help for the installation system is of course quite limited due
> > to space limitations. However, t
Would it be an English-only file ??
Or is there a way of integrating it in boot-floppies/documentation tree so all
translators can localize it ?
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 02:15:16PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> The online help for the installation system is of course quite limited due
&
>
> FWIW busybox does have better help if you turn it on :
> bb with very little help:
> -rwxr-xr-x root/root180316 2001-06-10 14:22:28 ./bin/busybox
>
> bb with better help:
> -rwxr-xr-x root/root195804 2001-06-10 14:29:32 ./bin/busybox
>
> That is more space than what you are proposing,
>>
>> nano-tiny -T15 -v /help.txt
>
> why not zcat /help.gz | more ?
That would work, but I used tabs to make two columns; using the editor lets
me choose how much space for a tab so it's more readable and also gives the
novice an interface to use to search for keywords, and scroll back and
f
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 02:15:16PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> The online help for the installation system is of course quite limited due
> to space limitations. However, the help that is available isn't really
> enough for new users who are just being exposed to *nix for the fi
> We can't take on the job of *nix education within the installer, but I think
> a few k would really be a good investment for new users. I'm willing to
> scrounge a few k from other places if need be...
I like this idea.
>
> Let's add a new 'help' command (hard linked to man and info) that jus
The online help for the installation system is of course quite limited due
to space limitations. However, the help that is available isn't really
enough for new users who are just being exposed to *nix for the first time.
We can't take on the job of *nix education within the instal
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