Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Network configuration:[ ] none [ ] dhcp [ ] static [ ] modem/dsl > > This seems to imply that all dsl uses the abomination of pppoe. I've Thats strange since the word doesn't eve

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-26 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Network configuration:[ ] none [ ] dhcp [ ] static [ ] modem/dsl This seems to imply that all dsl uses the abomination of pppoe. I've got SDSL at home, and would need to choose static if I was installing on a directly connected

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-26 Thread Alastair McKinstry
>[Geert Stappers] >> Add missing serial line (detection) support to the list. > >Are you talking about the missing serial line support in >grub-installer, or some feature of the grub boot loader? The first >should be easily fixable. At least we use grub with serial console >here at the university

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Geert Stappers] > Add missing serial line (detection) support to the list. Are you talking about the missing serial line support in grub-installer, or some feature of the grub boot loader? The first should be easily fixable. At least we use grub with serial console here at the university, and i

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-20 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 10:14:48PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > > > > > > Have you URLs for none i386 distributions? > Have you URLs for non-i386 distributions? > > > > I don't understand the question :> > > It was to ask your attention for the world beyond ia32 (a.k.a. i386). No sorry,

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-20 Thread Nick Lopez
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 01:39:35PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 09:24:42AM +0100, Norman Schmidt wrote: > > Robert Millan schrieb: > > Why I do not use grub is because I want to boot from software raid 1, > > and lilo makes that possible. It even writes two bootblocks on

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-19 Thread Jason Thomas
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:14:48AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 12:33:06AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > GRUB need to install automatically using the grub-installer udeb. I > > believe only bug #219833 is blocking this at the moment. I've just uploaded the fix for

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-19 Thread Geert Stappers
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 09:50:07PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:53:20PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > > > > > > However, there's always a preferred option. Don't call it "default" if you > > > don't want to, but we need to decide which is the preferred option for Debia

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:53:20PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > > > > However, there's always a preferred option. Don't call it "default" if you > > don't want to, but we need to decide which is the preferred option for Debian. > For Debian means on all architectures. Yeah.. sorry. I meant "for

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-19 Thread Geert Stappers
GRUB advantages. > > I'm not intending to make a flamewar of bootloaders. I just suggest not to have > > a "default" bootloader but to let the user to choose what is the one she needs. > > Sounds fine. If you look at the links I pasted (see below), you'll see tha

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-19 Thread Andrés Roldán
LILO. Some users will need LILO advantages, some will need GRUB advantages. >> > I'm not intending to make a flamewar of bootloaders. I just suggest not to have >> > a "default" bootloader but to let the user to choose what is the one she needs. >> You already

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Millan
I just suggest not to have > a "default" bootloader but to let the user to choose what is the one she needs. Sounds fine. If you look at the links I pasted (see below), you'll see that this is what other distributions do. However, there's always a preferred option. Don

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 12:40:08AM +0100, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote: > > - Clean dessign. While GRUB's dessign is far from perfect, it is still a > >very flexible one. GRUB understands filesystems and network protocols, > >making it able to load kernels dynamicaly from the disk or the

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 12:33:06AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Robert Millan] > > I (as GRUB co-maintainer) have discussed with Jason the possibility > > of GRUB being the default bootloader for i386 in Debian 3.1, and we > > agree that GRUB is now mature enough for t

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
; > I'm not intending to make a flamewar of bootloaders. I just suggest not to have > > a "default" bootloader but to let the user to choose what is the one she needs. > You already have this choice. Simply run debian-installer at priority > medium and you will see main

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-19 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
suggest not to have > a "default" bootloader but to let the user to choose what is the one she needs. You already have this choice. Simply run debian-installer at priority medium and you will see main-menu and you can choose grub or lilo. For the priority=high install we need a default

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-19 Thread Ralph Seichter
Andrés Roldán <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just suggest not to have a "default" bootloader but to let the > user to choose what is the one she needs. Precisely. Selecting a suitable boot loader is an important task, and the installer should allow the admin to make a del

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-19 Thread Andrés Roldán
As the maintainer of LILO, I know that there is advantages on GRUB and advantages on LILO. Some users will need LILO advantages, some will need GRUB advantages. I'm not intending to make a flamewar of bootloaders. I just suggest not to have a "default" bootloader but to let the user

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-19 Thread Geert Stappers
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 09:24:42AM +0100, Norman Schmidt wrote: > Robert Millan schrieb: > > > Hi there! > > > > Expecting to hear some feedback from the Debian Installer hackers about what > > the requirements are, and gladly disposed to address them. > > Hi Robert! > > Why I do not use grub i

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-19 Thread Norman Schmidt
Robert Millan schrieb: Hi there! Expecting to hear some feedback from the Debian Installer hackers about what the requirements are, and gladly disposed to address them. Hi Robert! Why I do not use grub is because I want to boot from software raid 1, and lilo makes that possible. It even writes

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-18 Thread Peter 'p2' De Schrijver
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 12:25:15AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > > Hi there! > > Time to talk a bit about which is going to be the default bootloader for i386 > in next Debian release. > > I (as GRUB co-maintainer) have discussed with Jason the possibility of GRUB > bein

Re: Default bootloader

2003-11-18 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Robert Millan] > I (as GRUB co-maintainer) have discussed with Jason the possibility > of GRUB being the default bootloader for i386 in Debian 3.1, and we > agree that GRUB is now mature enough for that. Sounds good. I would also use grub as the default. We do it already in S

Default bootloader

2003-11-18 Thread Robert Millan
Hi there! Time to talk a bit about which is going to be the default bootloader for i386 in next Debian release. I (as GRUB co-maintainer) have discussed with Jason the possibility of GRUB being the default bootloader for i386 in Debian 3.1, and we agree that GRUB is now mature enough for that