On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Dmitrijs Ledkovs writes:
>> On 5 September 2013 20:58, Bjørn Mork wrote:
>>> Christian PERRIER writes:
>>>
Quoting Bjørn Mork (bj...@mork.no):
So, it's probably less overkill than it may seem at first glance to
imagine that inst
Dmitrijs Ledkovs writes:
> On 5 September 2013 20:58, Bjørn Mork wrote:
>> Christian PERRIER writes:
>>
>>> Quoting Bjørn Mork (bj...@mork.no):
>>> So, it's probably less overkill than it may seem at first glance to
>>> imagine that installing headers by default may help in some cases.
>>
>> I h
On 5 September 2013 20:58, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Christian PERRIER writes:
>
>> Quoting Bjørn Mork (bj...@mork.no):
>> So, it's probably less overkill than it may seem at first glance to
>> imagine that installing headers by default may help in some cases.
>
> I hope and expect most Linux users nev
Christian PERRIER writes:
> Quoting Bjørn Mork (bj...@mork.no):
>
>> We can continue like this if you want. Or maybe you'd like to define
>> your problem instead of your solution?
>
> I'm sorry to play this game, but have you noticed who sent this bug report?
Yes, which is all the more reason t
Quoting Bjørn Mork (bj...@mork.no):
> We can continue like this if you want. Or maybe you'd like to define
> your problem instead of your solution?
I'm sorry to play this game, but have you noticed who sent this bug report?
Then, have you ever looked at the changelog of any D-I package?
In sh
On 5 September 2013 15:07, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Dmitrijs Ledkovs writes:
>
>> My latest ultra notebook doesn't have ethernet port and needs
>> out-of-the-tree wifi drivers compiled.
>> I fetched the tarball off github on my phone & transferred it to that
>> notebook over USB and then compiled.
>
>
Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> I managed to compiled because I joyfully discovered that default
> Ubuntu installations do install gcc and linux-headers unconditionally.
Noticing a "this laptop worked for me on Ubuntu" page that treated
installing necessary out of kernel modules as (rightly) no big deal
Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Joey Hess writes:
>
> > Bjørn Mork wrote:
> >> Really? I seriously doubt that. It's about as good as making it easier
> >> for the users to replace the default libc or init system with a non-
> >> Debian package.
> >
> > I have never needed to replace libc in order to make m
Dmitrijs Ledkovs writes:
> My latest ultra notebook doesn't have ethernet port and needs
> out-of-the-tree wifi drivers compiled.
> I fetched the tarball off github on my phone & transferred it to that
> notebook over USB and then compiled.
And this is the preferred solution, which you would rec
On 4 September 2013 22:03, Joey Hess wrote:
> Package: base-installer
> Severity: normal
>
> The CD images include linux-headers packages, but d-i does not install
> these by default. I think that it should, so that if the user needs
> to build out of tree kernel modules they don't need to jump th
Joey Hess writes:
> Bjørn Mork wrote:
>> Really? I seriously doubt that. It's about as good as making it easier
>> for the users to replace the default libc or init system with a non-
>> Debian package.
>
> I have never needed to replace libc in order to make my laptop's wifi
> work.
*I* have
Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Really? I seriously doubt that. It's about as good as making it easier
> for the users to replace the default libc or init system with a non-
> Debian package.
I have never needed to replace libc in order to make my laptop's wifi
work.
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Joey Hess writes:
> If we begin installing it by default,
> users should come to just expect that they can build kernel modules from
> source without doing anything more than a make, which will be a good
> thing.
Really? I seriously doubt that. It's about as good as making it easier
for the us
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 05:03:46PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> The CD images include linux-headers packages, but d-i does not install
> these by default.
Which distro does? A normal user does not need to build its own modules.
We also don't install a toolchain, aka build-essential.
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On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 17:03 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Package: base-installer
> Severity: normal
>
> The CD images include linux-headers packages, but d-i does not install
> these by default. I think that it should, so that if the user needs
> to build out of tree kernel modules they don't need to
Package: base-installer
Severity: normal
The CD images include linux-headers packages, but d-i does not install
these by default. I think that it should, so that if the user needs
to build out of tree kernel modules they don't need to jump through
the additional hoops of learning that Debian has s
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