Bug#277936: installation-reports: don't force people to use partman if they've already installed everything BUT the bootloader

2004-10-23 Thread simon raven
Package: installation-reports Version: daily snapshot 23 october Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable d-i sucks. officially. i spent 6 hours trying to install stuff. in-between the kernel oopsing and partman driving me fucking nuts, i had errors from various mirrors until i gre

Bug#273306: installation-reports: installation report on old world mac ppc

2004-09-25 Thread simon raven
Package: installation-reports Version: daily (second week of september, 2004) Severity: normal Debian-installer-version: uname -a: never got there Date: second week of september, 2004 Method: how: via floppies Machine: powermac 7500 Processor: 604e Memory: 168 MB Root Device: scsi Root Size/part

Re: New per subarch 2.4.22 powerpc kernels, please test.

2003-10-05 Thread simon raven
Le Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 19:01:58 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 09:10:59AM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 01:31:55PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > Anyway, please test and give feedback, before i upload, so we can have > > > all these powerpc subarch

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:12:49 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:09:22AM +0000, simon raven wrote: > > Le Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:20:29 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: > > > > > > So you volunteer to work on yaboot2, and have answered Ethan's

Re: Canada French Keyboard and Language settings from the Install

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 10:42:18 -0400, Normand Leclerc a écrit: > Hi, > > > I know that edulinux.org of Sherbrooke University has it, but I > wondered about the upcomming new Debian. > > Also any ideas as to why there is the same name for edulinux based on RPM from > mandrake and .deb ? Is the

Re: d-i - subarchitecture stuff

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:35:55 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:01:18AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > > > no, the long version but without the submatch. > > Notice that kernel-image packages are currently powerpc-pmac, powerpc-chrp, > powerpc-chrp-rs6k, powerpc-prep

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:20:07 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: > > Ok, so for oldworld pmac d-i support, we really only need to fix the > initial booting stuff, and the bootloader/kernel installation step. that's pretty much it. > Friendly, > > Sven Luther > -- @@--

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:29:43 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:12:56AM +0000, simon raven wrote: > > Le Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 23:52:58 -0800, Ethan Benson a écrit: > > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > >

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:33:44 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:23:31AM +0000, simon raven wrote: > > Better participate and make sure that that it works, much more > constructive that way. Also, i was refering about the person (maybe you, > i don'

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:49:16 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: > > The most funny was the guy telling us to use yaboot2 and that d-i was > just crap. who said? and if you're referring to me, that's not what i said. i said quik was, not d-i. and besides i have no personal experience with d-i, seems

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 23:52:58 -0800, Ethan Benson a écrit: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > also .coff kernels don't even work until 2.4.23 (maybe). ask ben herrenschmidt about that actually. seems that they do work. > > yup, nobody cares about doing inst

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: > > Ah, and yes, Herbert has asked about that, and most probably, there will > be no 2.2.x kernels in sarge, so if you have problems with 2.4.x on your > subarch, please document it, try to provide fixes or anything, don't be > silent ab

Re: new installer

2003-09-29 Thread simon raven
Le Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 20:20:56 -0400, Dan Weber a écrit: > Apparently its builtin into the debian-installer cvs. > run make TYPE=bootfloppy initrd > from the build dir and that should work. > > Im going to review it later tonight. > > simon > > k, i'll take a look at too, i have some free ti

Re: new installer

2003-09-29 Thread simon raven
Le Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 16:26:50 -0700, Matt Kraai a écrit: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:06:03PM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: > > I have begun to work on getting oldworld to boot. Basically the idea is > > to take two floppies, one with the kernel and the other with the initrd > > if we can fit and have

Re: new installer

2003-09-29 Thread simon raven
Le Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 16:37:03 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit: > [Eric Côté] > > that OldWorld PPC sub-arch will not be supported directly in the new > > installer. > > OK. I leave that decision to you. Thanks for letting us know, so we > can avoid worrying about that architecture. If you

Re: new installer

2003-09-27 Thread simon raven
Le Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 21:12:48 -0400, Dan Weber a écrit: > Well my intentions were to tell the bootloader to wait until it has all of > it into memory. However this may cause a requirement of 8mb < i see. so it'S be something like: "load stuff -> call to load other stuff -> etc. -> boot" ? > I

Re: new installer

2003-09-27 Thread simon raven
Le Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 19:58:43 -0500, Steve Langasek a écrit: > On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 11:39:15PM +0000, simon raven wrote: > > The point I think people here have been trying to get across to you is > that dropping OldWorld support was *not* a design decision. To date, ah ok. th

Re: new installer

2003-09-27 Thread simon raven
Le Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 20:29:22 -0400, Dan Weber a écrit: > Ok thanks. That was useful. With no possible way of kickstarting a cd can > be a bad thing. What about an ultra stripped kernel for 2.4 or 2.6 that > fits on a boot floppy. Then having it search for other boot disks and then > we can

Re: new installer

2003-09-27 Thread simon raven
Le Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 19:45:37 -0400, dan a écrit: > Ok I think I see the overall picture now. Basically 2.2 and the old bf24 are > the only kernels small enough to fit on a floppy. Booting from cds is not > an option because that requires a proprietary bootloader. Are the following > situation

Re: new installer

2003-09-27 Thread simon raven
Le Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 00:32:35 +0100, Matthew Garrett a écrit: > Simon Raven wrote: > > > just because you haven't been able to use and install on one machine > > correctly doesn't mean that they're all like that... (i can troll too > > you know ;). some

Re: new installer

2003-09-27 Thread simon raven
Le Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 19:26:10 -0400, Dan Weber a écrit: > > On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 11:13:30PM +, simon raven wrote: > > > I have some that can be used for testing, but don't understand all > > > that might be needed to make it work. Two things ri

Re: new installer

2003-09-27 Thread simon raven
> On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 01:42:22PM -0400, dan wrote: > > No simon is right on this one. Thie issue is that devfs has no support for > > old world macs. We all know devfs is crap too. My solution would be to > > remove devfs from the entire installer and try another system maybe using > > MAKED

Re: new installer

2003-09-27 Thread simon raven
> I have some that can be used for testing, but don't understand all > that might be needed to make it work. Two things right off the bat, > though: > > 1) Oldworlds need proprietary code to boot CDs, and normally need to > install from a 1.44 floppy, but the standard 2.4 image doesn't fit; and

Re: new installer

2003-09-27 Thread simon raven
Le Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 11:54:58 -0500, Steve Langasek a écrit: > On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 01:31:27PM +0000, simon raven wrote: > > > The only person I know has *decided* that Debian won't support OldWorld > PPC in sarge is you. I'm sure that (as with all things aro

Re: new installer

2003-09-27 Thread simon raven
Le Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 15:54:40 +0200, Thorsten Sauter a écrit: > * simon raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-27 15:31]: > | that OldWorld PPC sub-arch will not be supported directly in the new > | installer. > > maybe you can tell us, what is needed to support oldworld

new installer

2003-09-27 Thread simon raven
LET IT BE KNOWN: that OldWorld PPC sub-arch will not be supported directly in the new installer. i think this sucks. 1) there are plenty of still functional oldworld machines out there 2) i think it shows an utter lack of consideration for recycling, re-use of older hardware and the environment