Package: installation-reports
Version: daily snapshot 23 october
Severity: grave
Justification: renders package unusable


d-i sucks. officially. i spent 6 hours trying to install stuff.
in-between the kernel oopsing and partman driving me fucking nuts, i had
errors from various mirrors until i grew a brain and used the main
mirror. all of the other ones i tried failed in some way or another.

after a certain point, the kernel would oops right when libc6 was being
unpacked; then i'd start getting segfaults from d-i installing various
packages. THEN it tells me "you can't have a separate /boot partition
with quik" WHICH IS PATENTLY FALSE:

/dev/sdb8 on / type xfs (rw)
[snip]
/dev/sdb7 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
[snip]

ls -l /boot
total 18071
[snip]
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   24513 2004-07-13 02:34 config-2.6.6
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   24864 2004-09-15 17:31 config-2.6.8
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   25591 2004-10-19 17:53 config-2.6.9
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    1024 2004-10-21 12:10 first.b
[snip]
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    1024 2004-10-18 13:17 first.b.preserved
drwxr-xr-x  2 root sys     1024 2004-08-28 18:01 instmnt
drwx------  2 root root   12288 2004-06-13 08:26 lost+found
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    1024 2003-12-01 09:54 old.b
[snip]
-rw-r--r--  1 root root     577 2004-09-20 07:04 quik.conf
[snip]

less /boot/quik.conf:
[snip]
default=linux
timeout=30
root=/dev/sdb8
partition=8
[snip]

ls -l /etc/quik.conf 
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15 2004-06-14 08:47 /etc/quik.conf -> /boot/quik.conf

SINCE I AND OTHERS HAVE quik running happily in /boot.

i was forced to restart the installation several times, in between which i 
quickly realised that it DOES NOT "keep its place" in the process of
installing, uses devfs which only gets in the way, and since i'm forced
to use the floppies, i have no way to actually put the whole thing into
the semblance of a sois-disant expert mode.

the good news is after the many restarts and numerous problems, i was
able to install everything but quik. i rebooted the machine, hoping to
not have to go through the entire install again (which it seems i have
to, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T), so i can at least run an apt-get command to
install quik and configure it manually. 

i see this installer as a step backwards from woody or even potato -
where's the configurability and flexibility? we're forced into some
mould so that everything is homogeneous and vanilla? no thanks.

Debian-installer-version: october 23 2004, http://people.debian.org/luther/
uname -a: 2.4.27-powerpc-small 
Date: early morning of oct. 23
Method: How did you install? floppy
         What did you boot off? floppy
     Proxied? no

Machine: Powertower Pro 200
Processor: PPC 603e
Memory: 192 MB
Root Device:  SCSI, /dev/sda
Root Size/partition table: N/A

Output of lspci and lspci -n:
Bus 0: device 11 function 0
Host Bridge Apple Bandit host bridge (rev 3)
IRQ 22

Display Controller Integrated Micro Solutions IMS9128 (Twin Turbo 128)
IRQ 23

Liteon Communications LNE100TX

Grand Central I/O

AMI Megaraid 

Bus 1: Host Bridge Apple Bandit #2 host bridge

Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D AIC-7881U (rev 0)


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:    [O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network:         [O]
Detect CD:              [ ]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives:     [O]
Partition hard drives:  [E/O]
Create file systems:    [O]
Mount partitions:       [E/O]
Install base system:    [E/O]
Install boot loader:    [E]
Reboot:                 [O]

Comments/Problems:

d-i sucks. officially. i spent 6 hours trying to install stuff.
in-between the kernel oopsing and partman driving me fucking nuts, i had
errors from various mirrors until i grew a brain and used the main
mirror. all of the other ones i tried failed in some way or another.

after a certain point, the kernel would oops right when libc6 was being
unpacked; then i'd start getting segfaults from d-i installing various
packages. THEN it tells me "you can't have a separate /boot partition
with quik" WHICH IS PATENTLY FALSE:

/dev/sdb8 on / type xfs (rw)
[snip]
/dev/sdb7 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
[snip]

ls -l /boot
total 18071
[snip]
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   24513 2004-07-13 02:34 config-2.6.6
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   24864 2004-09-15 17:31 config-2.6.8
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   25591 2004-10-19 17:53 config-2.6.9
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    1024 2004-10-21 12:10 first.b
[snip]
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    1024 2004-10-18 13:17 first.b.preserved
drwxr-xr-x  2 root sys     1024 2004-08-28 18:01 instmnt
drwx------  2 root root   12288 2004-06-13 08:26 lost+found
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    1024 2003-12-01 09:54 old.b
[snip]
-rw-r--r--  1 root root     577 2004-09-20 07:04 quik.conf
[snip]

less /boot/quik.conf:
[snip]
default=linux
timeout=30
root=/dev/sdb8
partition=8
[snip]

ls -l /etc/quik.conf
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15 2004-06-14 08:47 /etc/quik.conf -> /boot/quik.conf

SINCE I AND OTHERS HAVE quik running happily in /boot.

i was forced to restart the installation several times, in between which i
quickly realised that it DOES NOT "keep its place" in the process of
installing, uses devfs which only gets in the way, and since i'm forced
to use the floppies, i have no way to actually put the whole thing into
the semblance of a sois-disant expert mode.

the good news is after the many restarts and numerous problems, i was
able to install everything but quik. i rebooted the machine, hoping to
not have to go through the entire install again (which it seems i have
to, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T), so i can at least run an apt-get command to
install quik and configure it manually.

i see this installer as a step backwards from woody or even potato -
where's the configurability and flexibility? we're forced into some
mould so that everything is homogeneous and vanilla? no thanks.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (1000, 'unstable'), (998, 'experimental')
Architecture: powerpc (ppc)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.8
Locale: LANG=en_CA.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_CA.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)


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