On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 10:52:01AM +0200, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote:
5. transitional packages along with a helper package (that fails or
success during install) to prompt the user so they add non-free-firmware
section when needed.
Is there any reason why you are not considering 5.?
The dange
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 08:21:31PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Plus, as Shengjing Zhu points out: we already expect people to manage
the sources.list anyway on upgrades.
We also try to avoid silent install problems that might or might not
result in a system that doesn't boot properly.
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 03:53:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 04:43:47PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
What's the plan for upgraded systems with an existing /etc/apt/sources.list.
Will the new n-f-f section added on upgrades automatically(if non-free was
enabled before)?
[apologies to package aliases getting this twice due to autocomplete fail]
I've been trying to make sense of the NEWS item in isc-dhcp-client
(that alternatives are needed) in combination with the functionality
of ifupdown and what the implications are for debian upgrades
generally.
isc-dhcp
I've been trying to make sense of the NEWS item in isc-dhcp-client (that
alternatives are needed) in combination with the functionality of
ifupdown and what the implications are for debian upgrades generally.
isc-dhcp-client as of the last upgrade is telling users to stop using it
(the default
I'd still expect the installer to DTRT with UUIDs in that case,
though. I'm more thinking of a non-standard bootup / custom kernel or
similar...
Maybe I'm missing something here? Fire up a current debian netinst 9.2
iso in a kvm session (no special image or unusual hardware), go through
an in
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 01:09:06AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
I think this is a weak argument, FWIW, considering how many countries
have multiple timezones and so ask the timezone question with not much
in the way of apparent ill effects. But: Michael, would an expert-mode
question satisfy you?
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 07:44:40PM +0200, you wrote:
Up to now, the answer you got is that most of us don't feel an urgent
need to work on this issue.
The tone I read was that such a change wouldn't be allowed in the
interest of user friendliness. If I misread that, I apologize.
Mike Stone
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 01:37:10PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
While I agree with you Michael I also believe that majority of users
won't need this and who does is experienced enough to change the
system setting after the installation finishes.
I can't believe that debian is turning into a sy
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 06:48:54AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
And I bet we can find dozens of such examples where not using the
local time is pretty much as bad as using the same time everywhere.
Great...but I thought debian was about letting people decide for
themselves, not about boxing
On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 05:37:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Michael Stone wrote:
The default debian syslog configuration, for one?
IMHO, that's a bug.
Well, it's less of a bug than including something as ambiguous as "EST"
in a log file. :-P
FWIW, I think all times
On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 04:56:59PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
What log file format does not include the time zone in the log? If
timezone is included there is no repeat (ie, 2:30 am EDT != 2:30 am EST).
The default debian syslog configuration, for one?
I used to use UTC as the default time zone
On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 06:33:22PM +0200, you wrote:
Choosing a timezone has nothign to do with the HW clock being set to
UTC so I'll assuml you mean choosing the UTC +00:00 timezone.
Correct.
The question about the "country or area" which you get as second
question in default installs is no
Package: tzsetup-udeb
Severity: normal
I'm not sure if this is the right package. The problem seems to be that
in the etch installer, if you select a locale, e.g., en-US, you only get
to choose time zones associated with that locale. It would be nice if
every locale had UTC as an option, for thos
On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 11:09:34PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
Fileutils 4.1-10 is from woody, not from sarge. The version of fileutils in
sarge is a transitional package only.
Yes. Installing woody over top of sarge won't work. ISTR that the
install cds use[d?] "stable" instead of "sarge" in the
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 12:34:49PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
I tried the current d-i daily built netboot image with 2.6 and a usb
keyboard and it worked. The loaded modules included usbkbd and usbhid,
plus of course the correctly detected usb controller modules (both
uhci-hcd and ehci-hcd in my case)
Package: debian-installer
Raid partitions are not selectable as lvm pv's in debian-installer. This
should be possible.
Mike Stone
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Package: debian-installer
When booting from an rc1 cd on i386 the installer loads usbcore and
usbkbd, but not uhci_hcd. This makes it hard to install using a usb
keyboard. I'd suggest trying to load uhci_hcd, ohci_hcd, and ehci_hcd
during the startup phase.
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Package: installation-reports
Debian-installer-version: 2004-03-15 sparc business card
Machine: Sun Enterprise 250
Processor: USparc-II
Memory: 250M?
Method: CDROM
Root device: SCSI
Base System Installation Checklist:
Initial boot worked:[E]
Comments/Problems:
silo & kernel loaded fine, g
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 11:12:57PM +0100, Fabrice Lorrain (home) wrote:
The 1650 comes with 2 Giga nics from Intel.
That's right.
The 2650 comes with 2 Giga nics from Broadcom (the best driver for those
is tigon3 (tg3.o) since the 2.4.19 kernel).
oh yeah, the inclusion of tg3 is something el
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 04:04:11PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote:
Let me know if you need me to test anything on a poweredge 2650. I
can't test full install but we can check things are booting and net
card is working.
I've tested a few full installs on a couple of 2650's. It's one of the
platforms
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 02:26:21PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote:
The PERC3/Di SCSI controller did seem supported, although it may be
buggy, according to http://www.domsch.com/linux/> (cf "interrupt
fix patch").
The only reference I saw that looked anything like that was in concert
with a 2.4.9 ker
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 12:45:05PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote:
So why does that prevent us from giving an overview of the various
options and providing some criteria to help users pick one or the
other?
It doesn't; that would be very good. I thought I had read that the goal
was to eliminate all
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 08:36:11PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote:
Um, no, I'm just talking about netboot options on i386.
I understand that. But just like we have a bunch of architectures, we
have a bunch of netboot options. You generally don't have a lot of
choices about what your hardware supports
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 04:40:50PM -0600, Adam DiCarlo wrote:
overview of the different netboot options and which is best to use...
"The one that works." You're asking for something like "review the
currently supported architectures and explain which is the best one to
use."
Mike Stone
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On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 04:59:24PM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote:
No. Any new ia64 installation should use GPT, not FAT-style MSDOS labels.
Are those the ones that put stuff at the end of the disk and break on
linux with odd number of sectors?
Mike Stone
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 11:34:12AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
>Hrm, even if I told Yann to tell more, I am confused a bit. etc/hosts
>should be allways written (forced call in write_common_network()) unless
>you have choosen DHCP, DHCP was set up (use_dhcp=1) but the interface
>were down while wri
On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 08:05:14PM +0200, you wrote:
>The problem is: some people told me that there are Cardbus cards that
>are driven by the drivers of the equal PCI cards. Including that drivers
>into the kernel would make it impossible to load the driver after PCMCIA
>start.
Cardbus is basica
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 05:17:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> I suppose it was a while ago now, but it's still a bit sad that people
> are forgetting this is _exactly_ what we were saying for woody.
Of course we didn't actually do that for woody. We changed a whole heck
of a lot in b-f, moved
On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 12:38:44PM +0200, johan van zuidam wrote:
> Wich programm must I use to burn iso to an floppy instead off a cdrom?
You didn't actually try to burn an iso to a floppy did you? There are
some floppy images with a .bin extension, but those aren't iso's.
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On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 11:05:43PM +0200, Stephane Leclerc wrote:
> We also need the bcm5700 Gbits Ethernet driver. No more EtherPro100+ inside
That's something you'll have to add after installation, or with a custom
kernel. (It's not included in the regular kernel source.)
> bf2.4 is the only o
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 07:20:29PM +0300, Kai Hendry wrote:
> is there a way i can drop to shell, extract parted onto the RAM disk and
> use it?
You can grab a parted rootdisk from
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/parted/bootdisk/ and resize the partition
independent of the debian installation.
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On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 12:03:39PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Because it would be very confusing in the distro prompt, and woody is
> frozen.
You've lost me.
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On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 10:02:38AM -0600, Jeremiah Merkl wrote:
> "woody" should never be a valid setting, in my opinion.
Why? "woody" will always be a valid url until it's retired.
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On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 08:54:20PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Matt Kraai wrote:
> > * base-config sets the default value of apt-setup/distribution
> >to the value of SUITE, but
> > * its possible values are stable, testing, and unstable, so it
> >falls back to the old default, stable.
> >
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 11:14:15PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 11:06:26PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> [...]
> > In order to avoid this annoyance, I suggested to only accept i18n-ed
> > frontends.
>
> This suggestion does only make sense for interactive frontends, of co
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 10:51:04AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Why didn't you put it as a module ? It's really confusing ... since
> other Debian kernels have it as a module.
I'd submit that installing things as modules with our system is *far*
more confusing. Users seldom know what cryptic m
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 07:41:55PM +0200, Pierre Machard wrote:
> if you video card is not recognise by X. For example on my laptop,
> the default option in slack make my screen wider. With framebuffer it
> feets on the whole screen, not only in a little rectangular area.
With my laptop it makes
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 03:23:06PM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote:
> It is there as part of the installer to make like easier
> for those wishing to do things that the installer does not
> support by default. It has nothing whatsoever to do with
> cramfs or the kernel.
you're just wrong. the 2.4 ker
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 04:11:43PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> Btw, I would suggest this order:
>
> 1: Multiboot
> 3: idepci
> 2: bf2.4
> 4: compact
> 5 and rest: vanilla
>
> So people with broken BIOSes have luck with the next CD-ROM.
vanilla might be better on the second cd; the people with
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 08:38:00AM -0500, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
> It failed to boot an IBM Aptiva 2161-C8E desktop with a 1/19/1997
> BIOS. This 166Mhz Pentium box has been my trusty machine for 5 years,
> and boots the potato r3 CD and also another woody netinst ISO (the one
Well, I guess the qu
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 01:08:02AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> See subject. mke2fs and mkreiserfs do not touch the first 100 bytes of
> the partition, but exactly this area (first 4 chars) is used to detect
> the XFS filesystem.
Yes. Unfortunately XFS is the only (AFAIK) linux filesystem that d
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 07:10:32PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> I do not care. I included the IO-APIC support in first versions of the
> kernel, but this caused problems reports from DELL laptop users. A
> possible way would to enable it in kernel and forbid with boot options.
> But it is too late
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 12:18:53PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> No it doesn't, the module is on the root disk.
hmm. that didn't work for me, I'll try again tomorrow.
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:44:36PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> #include
> Michael Stone wrote on Wed Apr 10, 2002 um 03:06:11PM:
> > CONFIG_PACKET is not compiled into the compact flavor, which makes net
> > installs a bit of a PITA. Is that a known or intentional issue?
>
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 04:45:08PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 08:33:00PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > And sorry, IMHO is idepci the worst kernel-image to be used for CD#1 as
> > the only available flavor.
>
> It seems to work for a large number of users, and that is
CONFIG_PACKET is not compiled into the compact flavor, which makes net
installs a bit of a PITA. Is that a known or intentional issue?
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I tried the floppies with the 5/18 date from http.us, didn't get very
far. Unformatted ramblings follow.
I used the "compact" floppy set. The top-level floppies didn't have the
3c59x driver compiled in, and I wanted to avoid burning 3 driver
floppies.
The install process asked me for the driver
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 04:28:37PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> You are assuming that talkd have buffer overflows, but you have no
> proof of it.
Of course a reasonably paranoid person would assume that buffer
overflows exist and mitigate the risk as appropriate. Unless you can
*prove* that
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 04:00:09PM +0300, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> I sometimes have the feeling that too much security is breaking many
> convenient features. It would be wrong to put in a program with known
> vulnerabilities, but except that I don't see why you would want to
> remove useful sm
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:16:53PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> IMHO, a system without talk and talkd is too limited. Have it only
> listen on loopback, if security is the problem.
That's YHO. I obviously disagree. :) I haven't used talk in years, and
you could probably find a large number of
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 01:08:17PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> | > talk rather obsolete, but debatable
> | > talkd not very secure for baseline
>
> I want those. They are very useful, and afaik, there are no security
> problems with talkd.
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