Re: Installation-guide cleanup

2012-09-11 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Karsten Merker wrote: > If there are no objections, I would start working on the > installation guide and remove (and in some cases replace) several > outdated parts. Due to limited time available on my side this One note: in the d-i manual, ... should be used instead of "..." for quotation

Bug#687249: debian-installer: Missing time zone region

2012-09-11 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting dagrut (dag...@yahoo.fr): > Package: debian-installer > Severity: normal > > Dear Maintainer, > > The "Reunion island" time zone is missing in the "Indian Ocean" section. > After the installation, dpkg-reconfigure tzdata fixed it. Please be more specific. There is no place where one cho

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-11 Thread Ztatik Light
Well, I know there *is* a Git commit to set it to xfce instead of gnome, but I don't know how authoritative or influential it will end up being. I also like the idea of compressing/trimming GNOME. Thanks for the feedback. http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=tasksel/tasksel.git;a=commit;h=2a962cc

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 11 septembre 2012 à 11:03 -0400, Lennart Sorensen a écrit : > If I can't find how to maximize a window, how to logout, or much of > anything else in the first 5 minutes of use, then it isn't usable. > > Of course this is probably getting off topic for debian-boot and almost > debian-deve

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 04:47:34PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > It is the same codebase, and has the same functionality. It is the same source code tree, with a bunch of code completely changed, and it certainly does not have the same functionality (although it may be slowly gaining some of wh

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 11 septembre 2012 à 10:34 -0400, Lennart Sorensen a écrit : > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 03:23:09PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > You can’t be serious. Xfce is way more different from GNOME 2 than GNOME > > 3 classic is. > > Well if gnome 3 classic was the default, then fine. But gn

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 11 septembre 2012 à 10:32 -0400, Lennart Sorensen a écrit : > Well as a user, gnome-panel 3.x is NOT a continuation of gnome. It is the same codebase, and has the same functionality. > When gnome 3 hit unstable, I switched to something else. I couldn't > find anything, or make it do an

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 03:23:09PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > You can’t be serious. Xfce is way more different from GNOME 2 than GNOME > 3 classic is. Well if gnome 3 classic was the default, then fine. But gnome 3 with the new panel as default is really not acceptable and just plain mean

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 01:52:44PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Just because these people are noisy doesn’t make them numerous. > > Furthermore, Debian (and Ubuntu too IIRC) makes “GNOME classic” > available right from the login manager, with the default installation. > Not considering gnome-p

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-11 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 11 September 2012 08:06, Ian Jackson wrote: > Based on this, I think there is at the very least no reason to > reverse the decision to switch the Debian default to xfce. Except as Paul said, the decision to make XFCE default for Wheezy has not been made so it can't be reversed. Jeremy Bicha

Re: disable l2 cache on kirkwood devices (workaround #658904)

2012-09-11 Thread Ian Campbell
On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 03:57 -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Ian Campbell wrote: > > > My main concern with doing this on the kernel side is that it will > > eventually fall foul of the attempts to reduce everything to a single > > kernel image, since the code will necessarily be quite kirkwood spe

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 11 septembre 2012 à 13:06 +0100, Ian Jackson a écrit : > I have encountered numerous people who have been complained (not in > particular to me, just i general) about changes to GNOME. Not being a > GNOME user myself I don't really appreciate these complaints. > However, I have observed

Processed (with 1 errors): d-i, os-prober need fuse module to detect other OS's

2012-09-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > clone 686927 -1 Bug #686927 [installation-reports] installation does not detect existing Lubuntu Bug 686927 cloned as bug 687286 > retitle 686927 unable to install grub into any partition Bug #686927 [installation-reports] installation does not de

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Josselin Mouette writes ("Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment"): > Le lundi 10 septembre 2012 à 20:08 +0200, Karsten Merker a écrit : > > I am not going to repeat all the discussions about GNOME 3, but > > at least from the impressions I have go

Bug#677931: installation-report: testing image does not boot on QNAP TS-212 (armel) / stable works

2012-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Eugeniy Meshcheryakov, le Tue 11 Sep 2012 13:09:04 +0200, a écrit : > > French is not a pure ascii language, precisely. > > > > > I was using UTF-8 locale and everything was looking correctly. > > > > Because you happened to use a UTF-8 locale. If you connect from a latin1 > > terminal, accents w

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 10 septembre 2012 à 20:08 +0200, Karsten Merker a écrit : > I am not going to repeat all the discussions about GNOME 3, but > at least from the impressions I have gotten around here, many > previous GNOME 2 users seem not to consider GNOME 3 / GNOME shell > a continuation of their existin

Bug#677931: installation-report: testing image does not boot on QNAP TS-212 (armel) / stable works

2012-09-11 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
--- Оригінальне повідомлення --- > Eugeniy Meshcheryakov, le Tue 11 Sep 2012 11:03:59 +0200, a écrit : > > Well, those pure ascii languages still use UTF-8. > > Look at French for example. > > French is not a pure ascii language, precisely. > > > I was using UTF-8 locale and everything was looki

Re: disable l2 cache on kirkwood devices (workaround #658904)

2012-09-11 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Ian Campbell wrote: > My main concern with doing this on the kernel side is that it will > eventually fall foul of the attempts to reduce everything to a single > kernel image, since the code will necessarily be quite kirkwood specific > and run very early on. Is it possible to do something reaso

Bug#677931: installation-report: testing image does not boot on QNAP TS-212 (armel) / stable works

2012-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Eugeniy Meshcheryakov, le Tue 11 Sep 2012 11:03:59 +0200, a écrit : > Well, those pure ascii languages still use UTF-8. > Look at French for example. French is not a pure ascii language, precisely. > I was using UTF-8 locale and everything was looking correctly. Because you happened to use a UTF

Re: disable l2 cache on kirkwood devices (workaround #658904)

2012-09-11 Thread Ian Campbell
On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 23:09 -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Hi Ian, > > On Aug 30, 2012, Ian Campbell wrote: > > > I've just tried injecting the following onto the head of the zImage (in > > a similar manner to flash-kernel's set_machine_id function): > [...] > > This works around the issue on my

Bug#677931: installation-report: testing image does not boot on QNAP TS-212 (armel) / stable works

2012-09-11 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
Well, those pure ascii languages still use UTF-8. Look at French for example. I was using UTF-8 locale and everything was looking correctly. I think many languages in the list will not be shown correctly if one uses ssh on a latin1 console. --- Оригінальне повідомлення --- > Eugeniy Meshcheryakov,

Bug#677931: installation-report: testing image does not boot on QNAP TS-212 (armel) / stable works

2012-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Eugeniy Meshcheryakov, le Mon 10 Sep 2012 23:42:45 +0200, a écrit : > Currently localechooser detects network-console as a terminal without > framebuffer and uses languagelevel 1 for such installs. It should use > higher level, because most modern ssh clients support unicode, and > in any case d-i

Bug#687212: Processed: reassign 687212 to localechooser, found 687212 in 2.44

2012-09-11 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
Hi, I attached patch to one of the previous messages for detecting network-console installs. Regards, Eugeniy Meshcheryakov --- Оригінальне повідомлення --- > Quoting Debian Bug Tracking System (ow...@bugs.debian.org): > > Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > > > > > reassign 687

Bug#687249: debian-installer: Missing time zone region

2012-09-11 Thread dagrut
Package: debian-installer Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, The "Reunion island" time zone is missing in the "Indian Ocean" section. After the installation, dpkg-reconfigure tzdata fixed it. -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing') A