Bug#543256: Make installing recommends optional

2009-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
> I think that supporting this option is well within the normal scope of > D-I, which is very much about flexibility where possible. > > Attached patches (untested, but straightforward) for three components: Thanks, Frans. I did put this mail in my TODO list to have a look at it. It's probably

Bug#543256: Make installing recommends optional

2009-08-23 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 23, Steve Langasek wrote: > I think the use case is users who are being control freaks about the set of > packages on their systems. If the set of packages being pulled in as > recommends is *wrong* (they don't fit the Policy definition of Recommends), > bugs should be filed against those

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
Uwe Bugla wrote: A totally unnecessary personally abusive email targeted at a valued Debian developer. I refuse to dignify the message by quoting any of it. This kind of abusive message has no place within the Debian community, and especially not targeted publically at a well-respected Debian dev

Re: [PATCH] common S70menu

2009-08-23 Thread Luca Favatella
On 22/08/2009, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 09:33:57PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: >> Hello, >> >> It indeed looks logical to simplify it. >> >> If no one objects, please go ahead and push it. >> > > I have just committed it. Thanks. Luca Favatella -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Bug#543256: Make installing recommends optional

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > I think that supporting this option is well within the normal scope of > D-I, which is very much about flexibility where possible. Ah, I wondered what had happened to this mail. I was in the middle of adding attachments and suddenly it was gone. Must h

Bug#543256: Make installing recommends optional

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
tag 543256 patch thanks On Sunday 23 August 2009, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Please make installation of recommended packages in d-i optional, at > least by adding a question in expert mode. This is one of the features > quite a lot admins turn off right after installations (found out by an >

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2009-08-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > tag 543256 patch Bug #543256 [pkgsel] Make installing recommends optional Ignoring request to alter tags of bug #543256 to the same tags previously set > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug track

Bug#543287: console-setup: attempts to compile the keymap stuff during early boot if timestamps differ

2009-08-23 Thread Raphael Geissert
Package: console-setup Version: 1.44 Severity: minor Hi, By experimenting I accidentally ended up modifying the timestamps of the cached keymap which made setupcon call ckbcomp during the *early boot process* (when the root file system is not yet mounted rw). Although it was my fault by modify

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2009-08-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > tags 543256 patch Bug #543256 [pkgsel] Make installing recommends optional Ignoring request to alter tags of bug #543256 to the same tags previously set > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug trac

Bug#543256: Make installing recommends optional

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
tags 543256 patch thanks On Sunday 23 August 2009, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Please make installation of recommended packages in d-i optional, at > least by adding a question in expert mode. This is one of the features > quite a lot admins turn off right after installations (found out by an

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2009-08-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > tags 543256 patch Bug #543256 [pkgsel] Make installing recommends optional Added tag(s) patch. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs data

Bug#543283: console-setup: console-setup should probably run setupcon with -f

2009-08-23 Thread Raphael Geissert
Package: console-setup Version: 1.44 Severity: minor Hi, Am I missing something or the console-setup should call setupcon with -f as keyboard-setup is already setting up the keyboard? Cheers, -- Raphael Geissert - Debian Developer www.debian.org - get.debian.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Max Vozeler
Christian, On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 08:29:44PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: ... Thanks and repect for reacting in such a calm way. Max -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > We really need to find a better way to interact BTW, what happened to "be liberal in what you accept"? Do you know what I do when somebody hints that my work may not have been 100% perfect? I first consider whether they have a point or not

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, I wrote: > No. I do. I just don't - at least in my free time; on a paid job I'm > slightly more - care to allow too much for people with paper-thin > skins. s/more/more restrained/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsu

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > - at the time I wrote this, I knew I couldn't investigate things > further, even obvious ones How much work is: boot installer from netinst; proceed until CD has been scanned alt+F2 + enter find /cdrom -name console-setup* ? 5 minutes, top. >

Bug#543256: Make installing recommends optional

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 08:53:20PM +0200, Marc Brockschmidt wrote: > I think the consensus is that it's desirable to disable both at the same > time. A use-case is setting up a server system, which by definition > shouldn't contain more packages than strictly needed. I think the use case is users

Bug#543268: user-setup: Please provide preseedable passwd/user-extra-groups, to allow preseeding without overriding defaults

2009-08-23 Thread Josh Triplett
Package: user-setup Severity: wishlist user-setup provides a preseedable passwd/user-default-groups, which overrides the default groups a user will normally get added to. I'd like to have a second preseedable item passwd/user-extra-groups, empty by default, which I can preseed to add additional g

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): > You did presume I'd do that with this: > On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > I think that Frans will verey quickly suggest the right explanation > > Instead, trace them to the end yourself. > > So, I think you did deserve the remark (

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Sonntag 23 August 2009 20:29:44 schrieb Christian Perrier: > Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de): > > Hey you two guys (Frans and Christian - who else?) > > > > Will you please cooperate better - otherwise no problems will be solved > > here at all. That means: The more experienced (Frans) shou

Bug#543256: Make installing recommends optional

2009-08-23 Thread Marc Brockschmidt
Christian Perrier writes: > Hmmm, so Marc's request then needs some clarification about what is > exactly wished. > > Is it wished that tasksel installing Recommends is made optional > through a debconf question? This eventually leading to apt.conf being > set to not install recommends. > > Or is

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > In this very specific example, I don't really see the value added by > the somewhat sarcastic remark *even* if I could have deserved it. Basically, if you don't want such remarks from me, then don't presume I will solve your problems for you (w

Bug#543256: Make installing recommends optional

2009-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): > On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > > There is *already* such an option. > > Eh, no. Hmm, OK, I overread the description of the parameter. > > Actually, this is a preseedable parameter that's documented in > > http://d-i.alioth.debian.org

Bug#543256: Make installing recommends optional

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, you wrote: > > Please note that D-I does *not* install Recommends when it installs > > tasks. However, of course, the installed system has the default > > setting of Recommends being installed. > > Eh, yes it does. Joey changed that some time ago. > > tasksel (2.79) unstab

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de): > Hey you two guys (Frans and Christian - who else?) > > Will you please cooperate better - otherwise no problems will be solved here > at all. That means: The more experienced (Frans) should not leave the less > experienced (Christian) alone. This leads to

Bug#543256: Make installing recommends optional

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > There is *already* such an option. Eh, no. > Actually, this is a preseedable parameter that's documented in > http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apbs04.html#preseed-pkgsel That parameter has absolutely NO effect on tasksel. Read the d

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): > > > I guess this is because the "apt-install console-setup" is in > > > kbd-chooser's post-base-installer, at a moment where APT sources > > > are not available (or configured). > > > > No, it was simply b

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Sonntag 23 August 2009 18:59:26 schrieb Christian Perrier: > Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): > > > I guess this is because the "apt-install console-setup" is in > > > kbd-chooser's post-base-installer, at a moment where APT sources are > > > not available (or configured). > > > > No, it w

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2009-08-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 543256 pkgsel Bug #543256 [debian-installer] Make installing recommends optional Bug reassigned from package 'debian-installer' to 'pkgsel'. Bug No longer marked as found in versions debian-installer/20090123lenny1. > thanks Stopping proc

Bug#543256: Make installing recommends optional

2009-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
reassign 543256 pkgsel thanks Quoting Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt (h...@debian.org): > Package: debian-installer > Version: 20090123lenny1 > Severity: wishlist > > Heya, > > Please make installation of recommended packages in d-i optional, at > least by adding a question in expert mode. This is one o

Bug#543256: Make installing recommends optional

2009-08-23 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Please make installation of recommended packages in d-i optional, at > least by adding a question in expert mode. This is one of the features > quite a lot admins turn off right after installations (found out by an > ad-hoc survey here at FrOSCon). +1 from me. Inde

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): > > I guess this is because the "apt-install console-setup" is in > > kbd-chooser's post-base-installer, at a moment where APT sources are > > not available (or configured). > > No, it was simply because the package was not on the CD at all! And that > woul

Bug#543256: Make installing recommends optional

2009-08-23 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Package: debian-installer Version: 20090123lenny1 Severity: wishlist Heya, Please make installation of recommended packages in d-i optional, at least by adding a question in expert mode. This is one of the features quite a lot admins turn off right after installations (found out by an ad-hoc surv

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Sonntag 23 August 2009 17:12:34 schrieb Christian Perrier: > Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): > > On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > > > Actually, when using a netinst image, console-setup is *not* installed > > > on the target system, which explains why the keymap is not

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): > > On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > > > Actually, when using a netinst image, console-setup is *not* > > > installed on the target system, which explains why the keymap is > > > not conf

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): > On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > > Actually, when using a netinst image, console-setup is *not* installed > > on the target system, which explains why the keymap is not > > configured. I think that Frans will verey quickly suggest the rig

Bug#543227: marked as done (debian-installer: keyboard layout not set in installed system)

2009-08-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:40:00 +0200 with message-id <20090823124000.ga9...@radis.liafa.jussieu.fr> and subject line Re: Bug#543227: debian-installer: keyboard layout not set in installed system has caused the Debian Bug report #543227, regarding debian-installer: keyboard layout not

Bug#543227: debian-installer: keyboard layout not set in installed system

2009-08-23 Thread Robert Becker
Package: debian-installer Severity: normal Tags: l10n I used the debian-502a-i386-netinst.iso to install Debian in a VirtualBox. I chose German localization (language and keyboard layout) and selected the default in all other questions. When I boot into my freshly installed system, the keymap l

Bug#543214: console-setup: Debconf output language partly determined by LC_CTYPE

2009-08-23 Thread Harald Braumann
Package: console-setup Version: 1.44 Severity: minor Tags: l10n The output language of `dpkg-reconfigure console-setup' partly depends on LC_CTYPE. Here's the output: ---8< # locale LANG= LC_CTYPE=de_AT.utf8 LC_NUMERIC="POSIX" LC_TIM

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
netinst -- Melhores Cumprimentos/Best Regards, Miguel Figueiredo A Domingo 23 Agosto 2009 06:57:16 Christian Perrier vocĂȘ escreveu: > Quoting Miguel Figueiredo (el...@debianpt.org): > > Hi all, > > > > the same happened to me, i selected Portuguese keyboard layout and after > > installation i

Re: Keymap problems in D-I (was: Re: Bugs in the latest Debian Sid installer)

2009-08-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > Actually, when using a netinst image, console-setup is *not* installed > on the target system, which explains why the keymap is not > configured. I think that Frans will verey quickly suggest the right > explanation Isn't that obvious? Fixed in

Re: Problems booting installation CDs

2009-08-23 Thread Felix Zielcke
Am Samstag, den 22.08.2009, 21:48 -0400 schrieb Isaac Freeman: > [x-posted to debian-am...@lists.debian.org, > debian-boot@lists.debian.org, debian-u...@lists.debian.org] > > All, sorry for the wide distribution, but I wasn't sure which list > this belonged on; feel free to reply only to me, or to