> I think that supporting this option is well within the normal scope of
> D-I, which is very much about flexibility where possible.
>
> Attached patches (untested, but straightforward) for three components:
Thanks, Frans.
I did put this mail in my TODO list to have a look at it. It's
probably
On Aug 23, Steve Langasek wrote:
> I think the use case is users who are being control freaks about the set of
> packages on their systems. If the set of packages being pulled in as
> recommends is *wrong* (they don't fit the Policy definition of Recommends),
> bugs should be filed against those
Uwe Bugla wrote:
A totally unnecessary personally abusive email targeted at a valued
Debian developer. I refuse to dignify the message by quoting any of
it.
This kind of abusive message has no place within the Debian community,
and especially not targeted publically at a well-respected Debian
dev
On 22/08/2009, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 09:33:57PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> It indeed looks logical to simplify it.
>>
>> If no one objects, please go ahead and push it.
>>
>
> I have just committed it.
Thanks.
Luca Favatella
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On Sunday 23 August 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
> I think that supporting this option is well within the normal scope of
> D-I, which is very much about flexibility where possible.
Ah, I wondered what had happened to this mail. I was in the middle of
adding attachments and suddenly it was gone. Must h
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On Sunday 23 August 2009, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> Please make installation of recommended packages in d-i optional, at
> least by adding a question in expert mode. This is one of the features
> quite a lot admins turn off right after installations (found out by an
>
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Package: console-setup
Version: 1.44
Severity: minor
Hi,
By experimenting I accidentally ended up modifying the timestamps of the
cached keymap which made setupcon call ckbcomp during the *early boot
process* (when the root file system is not yet mounted rw). Although it was
my fault by modify
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On Sunday 23 August 2009, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> Please make installation of recommended packages in d-i optional, at
> least by adding a question in expert mode. This is one of the features
> quite a lot admins turn off right after installations (found out by an
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Package: console-setup
Version: 1.44
Severity: minor
Hi,
Am I missing something or the console-setup should call setupcon with -f as
keyboard-setup is already setting up the keyboard?
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On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 08:29:44PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
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Thanks and repect for reacting in such a calm way.
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On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> We really need to find a better way to interact
BTW, what happened to "be liberal in what you accept"?
Do you know what I do when somebody hints that my work may not have been
100% perfect? I first consider whether they have a point or not
On Sunday 23 August 2009, I wrote:
> No. I do. I just don't - at least in my free time; on a paid job I'm
> slightly more - care to allow too much for people with paper-thin
> skins.
s/more/more restrained/
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On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> - at the time I wrote this, I knew I couldn't investigate things
> further, even obvious ones
How much work is:
boot installer from netinst; proceed until CD has been scanned
alt+F2 + enter
find /cdrom -name console-setup*
?
5 minutes, top.
>
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 08:53:20PM +0200, Marc Brockschmidt wrote:
> I think the consensus is that it's desirable to disable both at the same
> time. A use-case is setting up a server system, which by definition
> shouldn't contain more packages than strictly needed.
I think the use case is users
Package: user-setup
Severity: wishlist
user-setup provides a preseedable passwd/user-default-groups, which
overrides the default groups a user will normally get added to. I'd
like to have a second preseedable item passwd/user-extra-groups, empty
by default, which I can preseed to add additional g
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
> You did presume I'd do that with this:
> On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> I think that Frans will verey quickly suggest the right explanation
>
> Instead, trace them to the end yourself.
>
> So, I think you did deserve the remark (
Am Sonntag 23 August 2009 20:29:44 schrieb Christian Perrier:
> Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de):
> > Hey you two guys (Frans and Christian - who else?)
> >
> > Will you please cooperate better - otherwise no problems will be solved
> > here at all. That means: The more experienced (Frans) shou
Christian Perrier writes:
> Hmmm, so Marc's request then needs some clarification about what is
> exactly wished.
>
> Is it wished that tasksel installing Recommends is made optional
> through a debconf question? This eventually leading to apt.conf being
> set to not install recommends.
>
> Or is
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> In this very specific example, I don't really see the value added by
> the somewhat sarcastic remark *even* if I could have deserved it.
Basically, if you don't want such remarks from me, then don't presume I
will solve your problems for you (w
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
> On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > There is *already* such an option.
>
> Eh, no.
Hmm, OK, I overread the description of the parameter.
> > Actually, this is a preseedable parameter that's documented in
> > http://d-i.alioth.debian.org
On Sunday 23 August 2009, you wrote:
> > Please note that D-I does *not* install Recommends when it installs
> > tasks. However, of course, the installed system has the default
> > setting of Recommends being installed.
>
> Eh, yes it does. Joey changed that some time ago.
>
> tasksel (2.79) unstab
Quoting Uwe Bugla (uwe.bu...@gmx.de):
> Hey you two guys (Frans and Christian - who else?)
>
> Will you please cooperate better - otherwise no problems will be solved here
> at all. That means: The more experienced (Frans) should not leave the less
> experienced (Christian) alone. This leads to
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> There is *already* such an option.
Eh, no.
> Actually, this is a preseedable parameter that's documented in
> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apbs04.html#preseed-pkgsel
That parameter has absolutely NO effect on tasksel. Read the d
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
> > > I guess this is because the "apt-install console-setup" is in
> > > kbd-chooser's post-base-installer, at a moment where APT sources
> > > are not available (or configured).
> >
> > No, it was simply b
Am Sonntag 23 August 2009 18:59:26 schrieb Christian Perrier:
> Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
> > > I guess this is because the "apt-install console-setup" is in
> > > kbd-chooser's post-base-installer, at a moment where APT sources are
> > > not available (or configured).
> >
> > No, it w
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Quoting Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt (h...@debian.org):
> Package: debian-installer
> Version: 20090123lenny1
> Severity: wishlist
>
> Heya,
>
> Please make installation of recommended packages in d-i optional, at
> least by adding a question in expert mode. This is one o
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> Please make installation of recommended packages in d-i optional, at
> least by adding a question in expert mode. This is one of the features
> quite a lot admins turn off right after installations (found out by an
> ad-hoc survey here at FrOSCon).
+1 from me.
Inde
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
> > I guess this is because the "apt-install console-setup" is in
> > kbd-chooser's post-base-installer, at a moment where APT sources are
> > not available (or configured).
>
> No, it was simply because the package was not on the CD at all! And that
> woul
Package: debian-installer
Version: 20090123lenny1
Severity: wishlist
Heya,
Please make installation of recommended packages in d-i optional, at
least by adding a question in expert mode. This is one of the features
quite a lot admins turn off right after installations (found out by an
ad-hoc surv
Am Sonntag 23 August 2009 17:12:34 schrieb Christian Perrier:
> Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
> > On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > > Actually, when using a netinst image, console-setup is *not* installed
> > > on the target system, which explains why the keymap is not
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
> > On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > > Actually, when using a netinst image, console-setup is *not*
> > > installed on the target system, which explains why the keymap is
> > > not conf
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
> On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > Actually, when using a netinst image, console-setup is *not* installed
> > on the target system, which explains why the keymap is not
> > configured. I think that Frans will verey quickly suggest the rig
Your message dated Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:40:00 +0200
with message-id <20090823124000.ga9...@radis.liafa.jussieu.fr>
and subject line Re: Bug#543227: debian-installer: keyboard layout not set in
installed system
has caused the Debian Bug report #543227,
regarding debian-installer: keyboard layout not
Package: debian-installer
Severity: normal
Tags: l10n
I used the debian-502a-i386-netinst.iso to install Debian in a
VirtualBox. I chose German localization (language and keyboard layout)
and selected the default in all other questions. When I boot into my freshly
installed system, the keymap l
Package: console-setup
Version: 1.44
Severity: minor
Tags: l10n
The output language of `dpkg-reconfigure console-setup' partly depends on
LC_CTYPE. Here's the output:
---8<
# locale
LANG=
LC_CTYPE=de_AT.utf8
LC_NUMERIC="POSIX"
LC_TIM
netinst
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A Domingo 23 Agosto 2009 06:57:16 Christian Perrier vocĂȘ escreveu:
> Quoting Miguel Figueiredo (el...@debianpt.org):
> > Hi all,
> >
> > the same happened to me, i selected Portuguese keyboard layout and after
> > installation i
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Actually, when using a netinst image, console-setup is *not* installed
> on the target system, which explains why the keymap is not
> configured. I think that Frans will verey quickly suggest the right
> explanation
Isn't that obvious? Fixed in
Am Samstag, den 22.08.2009, 21:48 -0400 schrieb Isaac Freeman:
> [x-posted to debian-am...@lists.debian.org,
> debian-boot@lists.debian.org, debian-u...@lists.debian.org]
>
> All, sorry for the wide distribution, but I wasn't sure which list
> this belonged on; feel free to reply only to me, or to
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