On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 03:46:13AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> Here's a provisional list of packages which are standard or higher and
> should not be:
> fingerd not very secure for baseline
> ftpd not very secure for baseline
> talk rather obsolete, but debatable
>
Repository: tasksel/tasks
who:joeyh
time: Thu May 17 19:38:05 PDT 2001
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Added, includes (another) description of the file format and some
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Repository: tasksel
who:joeyh
time: Thu May 17 19:37:40 PDT 2001
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ignore upper-case files
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Should we not wait until we have a working system before we
> write this down in stone? It seems likely that we shall have design
> tweaks as we work through implementing this, and once the design and
> the interfaces have stabilized would be the time to propos
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:18:17PM +0100, Charles Briscoe-Smith wrote:
> Since the task wouldn't actually be installed in any permanent sense
> (there's no task package to install), upgrading a task would probably
> just consist of selecting it again with tasksel.
Well, it depends how/if you wan
Repository: tasksel/tasks
who:joeyh
time: Thu May 17 19:02:02 PDT 2001
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My changes:
* Added support for task description files.
* Read in /usr/share/tasksel/debian-tasks.desc as a task description
file.
* Added makedesc.pl, a program to generate a task descri
Repository: tasksel/debian
who:joeyh
time: Thu May 17 19:02:02 PDT 2001
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My changes:
* Added support for task description files.
* Read in /usr/share/tasksel/debian-tasks.desc as a task description
file.
* Added makedesc.pl, a program to generate a task descr
Repository: tasksel
who:joeyh
time: Thu May 17 19:02:02 PDT 2001
Log Message:
My changes:
* Added support for task description files.
* Read in /usr/share/tasksel/debian-tasks.desc as a task description
file.
* Added makedesc.pl, a program to generate a task description
Repository: tasksel/tasks
who:joeyh
time: Thu May 17 18:58:19 PDT 2001
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boot-floppies_2.3.3_sparc.changes uploaded successfully to auric.debian.org
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boot-floppies_2.3.3.tar.gz
boot-floppies_2.3.3_all.deb
bf-archive-install_2.3.3_sparc.sh
bf-common_2.3.3_sparc.tar.gz
bf-doc_2.3.3_sparc.tar.gz
bf-images-1.44_2.3
Repository: boot-floppies
who:bcollins
time: Thu May 17 18:48:15 PDT 2001
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Repository: boot-floppies/make
who:bcollins
time: Thu May 17 18:48:16 PDT 2001
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Repository: boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap
who:bcollins
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who:bcollins
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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/fr
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time: Thu May 17 17:41:59 PDT 2001
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Repository: boot-floppies
who:bcollins
time: Thu May 17 17:05:27 PDT 2001
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Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:bcollins
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Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:aph
time: Thu May 17 16:47:50 PDT 2001
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Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:bcollins
time: Thu May 17 16:36:44 PDT 2001
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Hi,
Should we not wait until we have a working system before we
write this down in stone? It seems likely that we shall have design
tweaks as we work through implementing this, and once the design and
the interfaces have stabilized would be the time to propose this as
policy. This is
Repository: boot-floppies
who:bcollins
time: Thu May 17 16:29:56 PDT 2001
Log Message:
Convert sun4u image back to 1440k, removing sys_map.gz and config.gz from
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Fix rootdisk.sh so that there is not a duplicate libnewt
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Repository: boot-floppies/make
who:bcollins
time: Thu May 17 16:29:57 PDT 2001
Log Message:
Convert sun4u image back to 1440k, removing sys_map.gz and config.gz from
the image
Fix rootdisk.sh so that there is not a duplicate libnewt
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Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:aph
time: Thu May 17 16:26:53 PDT 2001
Log Message:
um, David Weldon's source upload was funky, I'm bumping the version
and doing another one (no content changes)
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Repository: boot-floppies
who:aph
time: Thu May 17 16:21:13 PDT 2001
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ignorable
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Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:aph
time: Thu May 17 15:53:50 PDT 2001
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start 2.3.3
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[Sorry if I'm talking nonsense here; I've only recently started reading
debian-policy again, so I may be further out of touch than I think.]
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 05:46:48PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
>
> > Rather than having task packages any more, individual packages that
> > belong to a ta
Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/fr
who:ericvb
time: Thu May 17 14:25:40 PDT 2001
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and more typos.
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who:ericvb
time: Thu May 17 14:23:14 PDT 2001
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more typos ...
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On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 02:55:39PM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote:
> Well actually I meant "chroot /target" or "chroot target" gives me the
> error:
>
> chroot: USER=root: No such file or directory
>
> I tried using the chroot that was installed with base and it worked
> fine. :-(
It looks to
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 07:00:35PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 08:41:09PM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote:
> > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 05:31:03PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote:
> > > It appears that sed.c was in an indeterminate state when the
> > > sed fix backport occurred. The
On 17-May-01, Alan Buxey wrote:
AB> How much fits onto one 880K formatted disk, i cant recall,
AB> its been so longis it 856k?
I think it depends which filesystem you use, and whether you have many small
files verses few big ones. For a disk mostly filled with one large file
(like a kernel
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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/fr
who:dwhedon
time: Thu May 17 11:01:16 PDT 2001
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appears as though a bit of text got lost, and we were missing some ref id's. that
broke the build
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David Whedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Once I get the sgml fixed shall I just move the tag??
Sure... can you message me on IRC? I'm 'aph' on #debian-boot.
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Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/fr
who:dwhedon
time: Thu May 17 09:30:17 PDT 2001
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typos, still doesn't build but I'll have to deal with it later.
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Thu, May 17, 2001 at 10:50:35AM -0400 wrote:
> David Whedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > We really need to build a new version from cvs. Adam is going to tag the cvs
> > tree for 2.3.2. This should happen soon, I'm not sure what we are waiting on.
> > Whatever it is we probably shouldn't b
Alan Buxey wrote:
> > I already considered all this and am now at 848 K. How much space exactly
> > do we have?
>
> well, if we need the following
>
> s:startup-sequence - a few bytes...
> libs:ppc.library (for powerup - not needed for A1200, but for a3k/a4k
> a1200 has t
David Whedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We really need to build a new version from cvs. Adam is going to tag the cvs
> tree for 2.3.2. This should happen soon, I'm not sure what we are waiting on.
> Whatever it is we probably shouldn't be waiting on it. Once it is tagged I'll
> build a new
Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:aph
time: Thu May 17 07:43:34 PDT 2001
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hi,
> We could make one floppy with just the kernel on it and another one which
> boots, copies everything to RAM: and... you get the idea.
yes, that may have to be the way
disk1:bootstrap -k disk2:vmlinux.gztype-stuff
alan
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On Thu, 17 May 2001, Alan Buxey wrote:
> > I don't think this is feasible as some people won't have anything connected
> > to their AGA output. Right now all the Amiga framebuffer devices are in.
>
> agreed - a lot of people either dont have a monitor that can 'do' the AGA
> modes (even the 29.x
hi,
> BTW if we could use bzip2, we'd be all set already:
this is a weakness of 'bootstrap', yes?
alan
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hi,
> You mean our test ramdisk.image.gz ? I asked eons ago if we should convert it
> to ext2, if it's still Minix we should do that now. We could use it as a
> rescue or other fancy stuff with a current glibc etc.
yep, dropping minix will cleave a small lump off the kernel.
> I already cons
hi,
> I don't think this is feasible as some people won't have anything connected
> to their AGA output. Right now all the Amiga framebuffer devices are in.
agreed - a lot of people either dont have a monitor that can 'do' the AGA
modes (even the 29.xHz VGA thing) , others dont have scan-double
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 May 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > I already considered all this and am now at 848 K. How much space exactly
> > > do we have?
> >
> > IIRC you have 837 kB free on an OFS-formatted floppy. Since we all use FFS
Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 May 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > I already considered all this and am now at 848 K. How much space exactly
> > do we have?
>
> IIRC you have 837 kB free on an OFS-formatted floppy. Since we all use FFS
> these days it (at least the kernel) should fit. A
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> I already considered all this and am now at 848 K. How much space exactly do
> we have?
IIRC you have 837 kB free on an OFS-formatted floppy. Since we all use FFS
these days it (at least the kernel) should fit. And don't use DC-FFS since it
will waste^
Sven LUTHER wrote:
> But, we definitively need 2 batches of kernels, since i suppose some guys
> would want the networking stuff also. They can use the non floppy version
> though.
Can't they use the modules? I'd really like to have a single .config,
otherwise maintenance is a nightmare.
>
Alan Buxey wrote:
>>>Do we need Minix fs support yet?
>>>
>>Not for installation.
>
> the ramdisk image no longer uses MiniFS? if so minifs could be dropped
> ages ago.
You mean our test ramdisk.image.gz ? I asked eons ago if we should convert it
to ext2, if it's still Minix we should do th
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 12:09:02PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > The only problem is that people might not have enough memory for both RAM: and
> > kernel/ramdisk.
>
> huh, how much is this ? i guess most apus users have at least 8MB by now, is
> t
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 07:01:33PM +0200, Giorgio Terzi wrote:
> Hello Sven
>
> ...
> > what program are you using on the floppy disk ? I suppose that if it is the
> > same as the one you use normally, it would be dependent on warp-up. But i
> > guess warp-up is not in rom, so did you put it on t
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 12:09:02PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2001, Alan Buxey wrote:
> > > Well, we could split the kernel in 2 and join it in ram: before launching it.
> > > Or we could try for a less than 880Ko modular kernel, but i have not big hopes
> > > on this one. M
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 11:04:51AM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote:
> hi,
>
> > Well, we could split the kernel in 2 and join it in ram: before launching it.
> > Or we could try for a less than 880Ko modular kernel, but i have not big hopes
> > on this one. Michel Daenzer is the apus kernel package maint
hi,
> Yep, you can remove OCS/ECS support, but it'll save only a few bytes, I guess.
dont A3k PowerUP owners have to have ECS - if they dont have GFX card?
(are there any such people?)
alan
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On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 09:28:01PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > > > I am trying to understand why...
> > > > For an 880k floppy the space problem makes impossible to do it.
> > > > But i wish to be contraddicted... :))
> >
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 07:58:06PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> Sven LUTHER wrote:
>
> > > I am trying to understand why...
> > > For an 880k floppy the space problem makes impossible to do it.
> > > But i wish to be contraddicted... :))
> >
> > Well, we could split the kernel in 2 and join it
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Alan Buxey wrote:
> > > Do we need Minix fs support yet?
> >
> > Not for installation.
>
> the ramdisk image no longer uses MiniFS? if so minifs could be dropped
> ages ago.
Hmm... I don't know. Someone should check this.
> I guess we also dont need OCS gfx support...as Po
hi,
> > Do we need Minix fs support yet?
>
> Not for installation.
the ramdisk image no longer uses MiniFS? if so minifs could be dropped
ages ago.
I guess we also dont need OCS gfx support...as PowerPC cards only work on
ECS and AGA systems.
On this line of thought...sound isnt essential, n
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:43:31PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> After a lot of discussion, AJ and I have settled on a compromise that is
> acceptable to both of us about what to do to fix Debian's broken[1] task
> system.
Dusk. A siren squealing in the distance, maybe police, maybe
ambulance, it's
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > You don't need fbcon-cfb24 and fbcon-cf32 since no one wants to run an
> > install console in those depths anyway. I don't think you need it for
> > half-supported gfx cards with amiboot -v, only depth 16.
>
> Will this pre
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