Re: Kernel for boot floppies

2000-10-17 Thread Joey Hess
Glenn McGrath wrote: > If there is a network Right, but we're just focusing on a system that has a network to get a demo system working. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Where to store hardware info ?

2000-10-17 Thread Joey Hess
Glenn McGrath wrote: > It may be handy to be able to see the information without using debconf, > incase something goes wrong with debconf or whatever, just to make it > more accessable. Er, you're going to have to stort it in some file somewhere on the system, in some standard format, with some

Re: woody, boot-floppies, and debian-installer projected readiness

2000-10-17 Thread Timshel Knoll
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 02:25:11PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > Joey Hess wrote: > > > * modules to set up network, partition hard disk, download modules, set > > up swap, format the disk, install the base system, and set up lilo are > Agreed :) > > Ive had a look at partitioning with pa

please symlink base#_#.tgz

2000-10-17 Thread Adam Heath
package: ftp.debian.org I'd like to see a symlink base.tgz -> base#_#.tgz, in all disks-/, in all dists. This would make it easier to download, without having to know ahead of time what the numbers will be. Also, since boot-floppies have been removed from woody(because of Joey's modular install

Re: Netscape in DEbian 2.2

2000-10-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 04:09:12AM -0500, Roland Bauerschmidt wrote: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 06:26:31PM +0200, Maciej wrote: > > But now I have some other problem. My Netscape i Debian 2.2 has very big > > fonts and icons on task bar and menu bar. I was searching thrugh many files > > to find a

Re: woody, boot-floppies, and debian-installer projected readiness

2000-10-17 Thread Glenn McGrath
Randolph Chung wrote: > > > * udebconf ?? > > I was hoping to have gotten some code feedback and/or volunteers to help > me work on this :-) i will continue to work on this as time permits, > though i am spread kinda thin atm. > I had a superficial look at it, but didnt really come to grips wi

Re: Kernel for boot floppies

2000-10-17 Thread Glenn McGrath
Joey Hess wrote: > > Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > For network installs, we could theoretically dispense with IDE and SCSI > > entirely. This is probably not generally useful, though, since we'd > > still need to support installing off CD and hard disk. > > Nah -- see, once the network is up, sp

Re: woody, boot-floppies, and debian-installer projected readiness

2000-10-17 Thread Randolph Chung
> * udpkg is 97% done I'd say more like 80%, though the rest should be pretty simple to do. I'll try to get this done by the end of the week. > * udebconf ?? I was hoping to have gotten some code feedback and/or volunteers to help me work on this :-) i will continue to work on this as time perm

Re: woody, boot-floppies, and debian-installer projected readiness

2000-10-17 Thread Glenn McGrath
Joey Hess wrote: > * main-menu is 90% done, and will be finished by the end of this week > * udpkg is 97% done > * udebconf ?? Randolph has started this, http://auric.debian.org/~tausq/cdebconf-0.10.tgz > * modules to set up network, partition hard disk, download modules, set > up swap, form

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Re: Where to store hardware info ?

2000-10-17 Thread Glenn McGrath
Joey Hess wrote: > > Glenn McGrath wrote: > > For the installer we could share information of detected hardware via > > debconf, but i guess it should be stored on the filesystem somewhere. > > Why? I don't see anything wrong with just storing it in the debconf db. > It may be handy to be able

Re: Kernel for boot floppies

2000-10-17 Thread Joey Hess
Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > For network installs, we could theoretically dispense with IDE and SCSI > entirely. This is probably not generally useful, though, since we'd > still need to support installing off CD and hard disk. Nah -- see, once the network is up, space constraints pretty much dis

Re: Kernel for boot floppies

2000-10-17 Thread Joey Hess
Vaidhyanathan Mayilrangam wrote: > I met with joeyh during ALS and offered to work on kernel for the boot floppies. > I got the kernel down to 355 KB.. From what I understood from joeyh, the new > installer will be just the kernel and the network drivers.. However, one of the > issues I have is t

Re: Priorities

2000-10-17 Thread Joey Hess
Anthony Towns wrote: > I don't really understand task packages. I'd assume that they're there > to make it easy for people to do some particular common tasks (setup a > desktop environment, interact with your computer in japanese, play music, > do 3d graphics, program). Right. Have you done a pot

Re: woody, boot-floppies, and debian-installer projected readiness

2000-10-17 Thread Joey Hess
Randolph Chung wrote: > When we were working on potato boot-floppies, it was my understanding > that potato freeze != boot-floppies freeze. Several important additions > (http-fetch, etc) went in after the freeze. If this is the case for > woody as well, then we should find out from ajt when he th

Re: woody, boot-floppies, and debian-installer projected readiness

2000-10-17 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Di Carlo wrote: > Talking to the release manager, Anthony Towns, in IRC, I learned it is > his current plan to freeze woody early in January 2001. > > I think this is a laudable goal, but unfortunately I think that means > we need to retain the boot-floppies for woody. I'm afraid that I agre

Re: Where to store hardware info ?

2000-10-17 Thread Joey Hess
Glenn McGrath wrote: > For the installer we could share information of detected hardware via > debconf, but i guess it should be stored on the filesystem somewhere. Why? I don't see anything wrong with just storing it in the debconf db. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: gzip or bzip2 on boot floppies??

2000-10-17 Thread Joey Hess
Vaidhyanathan Mayilrangam wrote: > I wonder if we would be having bzip2 or gzip on the boot floppies.. All the > network modules compiled takes about 1.3M, but compresssed with bzip2 , needs > only 435K.. The size of bzip2 + libbz2.so is about 85K.. We can probably do the > same with the initrd im

busybox in main

2000-10-17 Thread Glenn McGrath
I would like to see the busybox package in the main debian archive. Busxybox is a multicall binary that is targeted at embedded systems, it is the basis of the debian installer. A busybox package was previously rejected because it was uninstable on an existing system. This was because busybox wou

pre-installer, kern mods, hardware detection

2000-10-17 Thread Glenn McGrath
I am a little worried about how we are going to handle all the kernel modules required for installing. Where are all the ide, scsi and net drivers going to reisde ? The user will need drivers to suit the fetch method on the actual boot media, that way they can fetch other install or kernel modul

Bug#74913: modconf does not find modules for 2.4.0 kernels

2000-10-17 Thread Malcolm Parsons
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 05:58:09PM -0700, Randolph Chung wrote: > IIRC modconf just calls modprobe, so if you have a 2.4-kernel-compatible > modprobe/modutils it will work fine. > > I'm not sure this is really a modconf bug, but I'll leave it open for > now. I'm talking about the interactive ncu

Re: Netscape in DEbian 2.2

2000-10-17 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 06:26:31PM +0200, Maciej wrote: > But now I have some other problem. My Netscape i Debian 2.2 has very big > fonts and icons on task bar and menu bar. I was searching thrugh many files > to find a solution but failed. Maybe U will help me . Sounds if you are using 100d

RE: FALSE == 1

2000-10-17 Thread Anderson, Tim TL33E
Without knowing any of the background, I find it pretty scary that this got into production in the first place. I hope there's not much stuff about that's using this. Tim Anderson -Original Message- From: Nick Holgate [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: FALSE == 1

2000-10-17 Thread Erik Andersen
On Tue Oct 17, 2000 at 02:51:09PM +0100, Nick Holgate wrote: > > I have just spent couple of hours tracking down a problem with a minor patch > I made to the boot-floppies sources. It turns out that I made the assumption > that the macro FALSE would be defined as 0, when in fact dbootstrap.h > de

Re: FALSE == 1

2000-10-17 Thread Nick Holgate
> > +#define FALSE ((int) 1) > > +#define TRUE((int) 0) > > This is contrary to usual logic which says that > > if (3>2) { > whatever > } Yes, I'm quite aware this is "contrary to usual logic" that's why I posted in the first place. > Why not change the "wrong" definitions of TRUE a

Netscape in DEbian 2.2

2000-10-17 Thread Maciej
Thanks anywayBut now I have some other problem. My Netscape i Debian 2.2 has very bigfonts and icons on task bar and menu bar. I was searching thrugh many filesto find a solution but failed. Maybe U will help me .P.S. If you got 2 mails from different persons thst was my fault, please a

Re: FALSE == 1

2000-10-17 Thread Santiago Vila
Nick Holgate wrote: > +#define FALSE ((int) 1) > +#define TRUE((int) 0) This is contrary to usual logic which says that if (3>2) { whatever } and if (TRUE) { whatever } should be the equivalent things. Why not change the "wrong" definitions of TRUE and FALSE in whatever place th

FALSE == 1

2000-10-17 Thread Nick Holgate
I have just spent couple of hours tracking down a problem with a minor patch I made to the boot-floppies sources. It turns out that I made the assumption that the macro FALSE would be defined as 0, when in fact dbootstrap.h defines it as ((int) 1) and the corresponding TRUE definition as ((int) 0

Re: Kernel for boot floppies

2000-10-17 Thread Vaidhyanathan Mayilrangam
-Os defaults to -O2 when I compile for i386 with math-emulation on.. Regards, Vaidhy > What about compiling the kernel with -Os instead of the default -O2, i > did some compiles and on a small kernel with nothing it made it 3KB > smaller, on my regular kernel which is 946KB it reduced it to 930

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