Re: zen and debconf

2000-09-19 Thread Michael S. Fischer
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 11:39:59PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > We shouldnt force them to use html, we could do the same thing the > > current debconf does when it target a web browser (i have to confess i > > havent tried it though) > > Check it out, it does have flexibility. You can group sev

Re: zen and debconf

2000-09-19 Thread Glenn McGrath
Ben Collins wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 02:53:28PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > > Ben Collins wrote: > > > > > > > If we are going to do anything fancy in our UI we could allow packages > > > > to use there own html code to present there questions rather than > > > > building a web page f

Re: zen and debconf

2000-09-19 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 02:53:28PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > Ben Collins wrote: > > > > > If we are going to do anything fancy in our UI we could allow packages > > > to use there own html code to present there questions rather than > > > building a web page for them, this would add a large d

Re: Failing to be of help with boot floppies

2000-09-19 Thread Joey Hess
Dale Scheetz wrote: > of what was happening and why it was unnecessary, and got replies like: > > "It doesn't do that any more." > > When you select these steps, the first screen presented is the "media > selection" screen. Here I choose "cdrom". For step 2 the next screen asks > me to insert th

Re: zen and debconf

2000-09-19 Thread Glenn McGrath
Ben Collins wrote: > > > If we are going to do anything fancy in our UI we could allow packages > > to use there own html code to present there questions rather than > > building a web page for them, this would add a large degree of > > flexibility which i think is needed. > > The whole idea of

Re: zen and debconf

2000-09-19 Thread Ben Collins
> If we are going to do anything fancy in our UI we could allow packages > to use there own html code to present there questions rather than > building a web page for them, this would add a large degree of > flexibility which i think is needed. The whole idea of debconf is to disconnect packages

thinkpad 240

2000-09-19 Thread Sid Bertheaud
hi, trying a floppy install. hangs up on 2 disk the root.bin. gives i/o message and I have tried 4 disks. Goes like this. ramdisk0 floppy=thinkpad evedrying appears okay and then load disk two and it bugs out. Any special things i should know about thinkpad 240? Until then my computers a pa

Re: zen and debconf

2000-09-19 Thread Glenn McGrath
Ben Collins wrote: > > > A couple of hours ago it hit me, we shouldnt be trying to invent the > > wheel, we can use a web browser as the defualt user interface and a web > > server as the backend (e.g. the kernel web server). Using html should > > have a number of advantages in the tools availabl

setlang, localized images

2000-09-19 Thread Marcin Owsiany
I have commited all things needed to have translated messages for syslinux (including a note in inst-methods.sgml - it would be good if some native speaker revised it). Also, since 2.2.17 won't include LANG_CHOOSER, I'd like to provide Polish root disk images for i386. I'd like to do that from th

Re: Which task package installs gpm?

2000-09-19 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 11:12:27PM +0200, J.A. Bezemer wrote: > Well, what would you say, when your harddisk is filled with 200 MB, and you > have only a shell, one editor you can use without reading lots of manuals, and > compilers for languages you can't even understand. If you have a 200 MB h

install: pump "operation failed"

2000-09-19 Thread Christoph Lameter
I have a pcmcia interface on my laptop and I tried to configure it via pcmcia. The driver initialized fine. I can configure the interface manually and it works fine. When I invoke pump it says "Operation failed". I cannot configure via the menus. My dhcpd logs show that the laptop did not even re

Failing to be of help with boot floppies

2000-09-19 Thread Dale Scheetz
Sorry to take so long to reply, but I'm very busy at the moment, and this business is what prompts me to make the following statements: I tried to provide specific feedback on an item in the install that, from my point of view, is simply a broken concept. I made a clear description of what was ha

Re: Which task package installs gpm?

2000-09-19 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, David Starner wrote: > On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 01:50:05PM -0400, Robert D. Hilliard wrote: > > Personally, I cannot imagine a system without emacs, but enough > > people favor the other "one true editor" that it is unreasonable to > > load up a newby's disk with emacs w

Re: Which task package installs gpm?

2000-09-19 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 01:50:05PM -0400, Robert D. Hilliard wrote: > Personally, I cannot imagine a system without emacs, but enough > people favor the other "one true editor" that it is unreasonable to > load up a newby's disk with emacs without giving him a choice. He has a choice. ae and

Creation of 2.88MB Boot Images, Auto-Install Comments

2000-09-19 Thread Tres Hofmeister
Hello, I just subscribed to the list yesterday. I've poked around in the archives, but can't find the answers to a couple of questions: 1. Where is the source code for the boot-floppies stuff to be found? I can't seem to find it in the normal Debian package source arc

Re: Which task package installs gpm?

2000-09-19 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
David Starner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There's a whole lot of servers (telnetd, ftpd, nfs-server) that are > standard that most people won't install (or will install different > versions of.) I don't think they're good to install by default without > big warnings. (I've long considered tryin

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-19 Thread Joey Hess
Randolph Chung wrote: > assuming a c-debconf is finished, do you still think we'll have a > c-debconf and a perl-debconf? I'd think we'd want to eventually only > have one implementation It depends. We may decide the primary criteria for the debian-installer debconf is size, and drop a lot of

Re: Boot Virus

2000-09-19 Thread Colin Devine
This is your bios thinking that lilo is a boot virus. Your bios is wrong. Disable this option in the bios and you will never see that warning again. --Colin On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Christopher Dryburgh wrote: > Hello Everyone: > > I am still new to Linux and have made good use of the available

RE: Boot Virus

2000-09-19 Thread Christopher Dryburgh
Thankyou Macan. I will look into it. Just some extra information. I only run into the single user shell and need to use fsck when booting from the hard drive. Booting using the floppy does not cause this to happen. There is something about booting from the hard drive that corrupts the file system.

Boot Virus

2000-09-19 Thread Christopher Dryburgh
Hello Everyone: I am still new to Linux and have made good use of the available packages. Linux is installed on a machine that use to run a buggy Windows NT. The hard drive was formatted and Linux was installed. Upon first boot of Linux a warning appeared about a boot virus. Probably the reason t

Re: zen and debconf

2000-09-19 Thread Tomas Berndtsson
Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A couple of hours ago it hit me, we shouldnt be trying to invent the > wheel, we can use a web browser as the defualt user interface and a web > server as the backend (e.g. the kernel web server). Using html should > have a number of advantages in the t

Re: zen and debconf

2000-09-19 Thread Ben Collins
> A couple of hours ago it hit me, we shouldnt be trying to invent the > wheel, we can use a web browser as the defualt user interface and a web > server as the backend (e.g. the kernel web server). Using html should > have a number of advantages in the tools available to use such as web > servers

zen and debconf

2000-09-19 Thread Glenn McGrath
Hi, im just checking out web browsers and stumbled across zen, i really like and think it may come in handy for a project im involved with. I saw a reference to debian on your website so you probably know what debconf is, my favourite project at the moment is the debian installer, we are in the p

installation

2000-09-19 Thread Lee A Janssen
system hangs after network setup . . . I enter the DNS (last step), tab to OK, press enter, then blue screen with one black (blank) line on the bottom and a white mouse curser somewhere . . . no response, dead in the water . . . I tried skipping this step, but then the reboot gives me: eth0 unk

Broken link in www.debian.de

2000-09-19 Thread Roy Bryant
There appears to be a problem on this page of your site. On your page http://www.debian.de/support.hr.html when you click on your link to http://www.li.org/li/resources/mailinglists.shtml you get the error: Not found As recommended by the Robot Guidelines, this email is to explain ou

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-19 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi Sebastien, Sorry, I have to get some work done so I write only a short answer now. On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 02:55:30PM +0200, Sebastien Chaumat wrote: > > Nice, another feature I would need. Sadly (or luckily, depends on POV) I > > can't test it here since our systems are working fine for ove

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-19 Thread Sebastien Chaumat
On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 10:47:20AM +0200, Sebastien Chaumat wrote: > > > Let me explain replicator's point of view. We assume that we want to > > install 99% identical contents on all of our computers > > (classrooms, desktops computers in our la

Re: bad press at www.linuxworld.com

2000-09-19 Thread Michael Bramer
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 07:59:17PM -0300, Carlos Barros wrote: > That reminds me a issue... Is there a vendor selling debian potato > including a printed manual about the instalation and upgrade documents? > > Some people want a book... yes. In Germany you can buy a 'Debian Box' with a CD-Set (

BIOS for DELL OPTIPLEX 466/L DAMAGED

2000-09-19 Thread Zambia Meteorologica Department
Dear Sir, I have been trying to figure out what went wrong with the BIOS for DELL OPTIPLEX 466/L PC. When I switch it on, the screen is somehow divided into three vertical sections. When I switch it on and off again, it says SYSTEM BIOS has been destroyed. Could you kindly send me the BIOS for t

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-19 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 10:47:20AM +0200, Sebastien Chaumat wrote: > Let me explain replicator's point of view. We assume that we want to > install 99% identical contents on all of our computers > (classrooms, desktops computers in our lab). So we use rsync to > speed things up and, at the end o

poweredge 2400 and installing debian.

2000-09-19 Thread Ries van Twisk
Hai, I'm currently in the progress of booting and installing Debian 2.2 on a poweredge 2400 with a Raid 5 perc raid controller (also known asmegaraid?). I compiled my own kernel, made a module version and a static version. I used the package boot-floppies to create my own boot disk set. I d

[Installer] Remote Boot mini-HOWTO

2000-09-19 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Have yous seen the `Remote Boot mini-HOWTO'? Marcus' mention of GRUB reminded me of it. I just wonder if that all could or should be integrated in some way? The Corel fancy boot screen thing is neat... but fails to boot on my test box. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

I'm back on list...

2000-09-19 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
I'm back, folks. Hello, everyone. I will not have much time for development work until next summer. Perhaps then I can assist more... but I for sure want to be involved in the discussion. I stand to learn a lot from being involved with this project. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Two new goals?

2000-09-19 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 03:28:23PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > > I think this is doable but belongs into the "sweet dreems" section :) > > > > > > I do not think so. CD-Rom comes more and more normal. Changing frontend

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-19 Thread Bernhard R. Link
On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > > It's on the debconf mailing list. The archives are at > > http://kitenet.net/auto/pipermail/config/ > > Is that an open list? Since it is of interest for the installer I would > like to subscribe to it. me, too -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Alternative root filesystem support

2000-09-19 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> Let's add one more bullet point for the new installer--namely, > alternative root filesystem support. I and my colleagues would just > love to see ReiserFS support in woody's installer. Why reiserfs? reiserfs is the bad guy, it doesen't support other architectures then intel and only the 32 b

mDepConf

2000-09-19 Thread Bernhard R. Link
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Randolph Chung wrote: > > Right, but how does it follow that you don't have a single database for > both the questions and the answers? (the current debconf does this...) > Perhaps I still don't understand what you are getting at. > I mean that mDebConf has an intern dat

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-19 Thread Sebastien Chaumat
Hello, On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 11:17:14AM +0800, Niall Young wrote: > Re: automating mass installs there are a number of projects to do exactly > this, most notably FAI. It'd be wise to take a look at these as they all > suggest different solutions to the same problems: > > FAI http:/

Alternative root filesystem support

2000-09-19 Thread Michael S. Fischer
Let's add one more bullet point for the new installer--namely, alternative root filesystem support. I and my colleagues would just love to see ReiserFS support in woody's installer. -- Michael S. Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, AKA Otterley Lead Hacketeer, Dynamine Consulting, Silicon Va

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-19 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 07:21:42PM -0700, Randolph Chung wrote: > > "Second System Effect"? Can you explain that with source? Thanks > > The tendency for someone who is designing a 2nd generation system to > want to put everything in and overengineer things. > > See _The Mythical Man Month_ by F