Re: [RFC} arm architecture board/feature deprecation timeline

2024-08-01 Thread Linus Walleij
On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 7:29 PM Arnd Bergmann wrote: > === ARMv4 === > > This is used for both StrongARM and FA526 CPUs, which are still > used on a small number of boards. Even the newest chips (moxa > art, ) are close to 20 years olds but were still in use a few years > ago. The last Debian rel

Re: RFC: dropping armel from Debian for the upcoming release

2024-08-01 Thread Gandalf From The Conjurers
Héllo all.Totally agreed, dropping any Armel for long time reason and manufacturers support may apply to all arm64 also.I really think it is a non urgent need but a hacking revival hardware possibility been just stopped...I still got sheeva plugs being easily IOT based reworked, so, dropping them m

Re: [RFC} arm architecture board/feature deprecation timeline

2024-08-01 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Wed, Jul 31, 2024, at 21:13, Aaro Koskinen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 07:29:29PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: >> === early ARMv6 === >> >> This is the ARM1136r0p in NXP i.MX31 and OMAP24xx, which in >> practice means just the Nokia N8xx tablet. >> It causes a lot of pain to support in the

Re: RFC: dropping armel from Debian for the upcoming release

2024-08-01 Thread Martin
On 2024-08-01 10:31, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > Most of the current users are probably fine with armel > being moved from a release architecture to ports, but from > a user perspective I also think it would be nice to do > that after Trixie is out, so that there is at least one > official release with

Re: RFC: dropping armel from Debian for the upcoming release

2024-08-01 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Thu, Aug 1, 2024, at 07:55, Hector Oron wrote: > [ {debian-kernel,debian-boot,debian-release}@d.o are in Bcc so they > can track follow up emails at debian-arm ML if interested. ] > > Dear fellow developers, > > Debian Installer no longer produces daily builds for this platform: > - https://d-i.

Re: [RFC} arm architecture board/feature deprecation timeline

2024-08-01 Thread Krzysztof Kozlowski
On 31/07/2024 19:29, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > We removed a lot of the unused board files at the beginning of > 2023, and I'd like to plan ahead for other hardware and feature > support that can be removed after the next stable kernel > (linux-6.12). > > TL;DR: I think we can deprecate toolchain supp

Re: RFC: dropping armel from Debian for the upcoming release

2024-08-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Hector, On Thu, 2024-08-01 at 07:55 +0200, Hector Oron wrote: > Upstream projects, ARM companies which I was able to check with, do > not care that much about maintaining old code for ARMv5t chipsets, > therefore supporting it is more and more costly resource wise (not > only in Debian). > > T