Re: Is an ARM computer a good choice? Which one?

2023-03-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, 2023-03-21 at 20:57 +0100, Lionel Élie Mamane wrote: > I think I've decided :) Thanks for the pointer! Please note the Lenovo discount for Debian members: https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits#Lenovo -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: Is an ARM computer a good choice? Which one?

2023-03-21 Thread Lionel Élie Mamane
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 01:21:04PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Nowadays, many people report good support with Lenovo's high-range ARM > system, the Thinkpad X13S. I'd jump for mine if I wanted to buy a > >US$1500 laptop (which I don't, of course!) It has a trackpoint! Killer feature. It seems to

Re: Is an ARM computer a good choice? Which one?

2023-03-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Lionel Élie Mamane dijo [Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:59:08AM +0100]: > > If you can get a Raspberry Pi 4 - it woill work as a small desktop, > > more or less silently. To fit extra disks you'll need an add on case > > - something like the Argon which will take NVME. There are > > bottlenecks. It's stil

Re: Is an ARM computer a good choice? Which one?

2023-03-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Lionel Élie Mamane dijo [Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 02:04:55AM +0100]: > The Raspberrys have to me a reputation of being small cheap "slower" > hackable mini-computers, not "workhorses". Have they scaled up that > much since they were introduced? No. They scaled up quite a bit; I would not dare do this

Re: Is an ARM computer a good choice? Which one?

2023-03-21 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 3/21/23 12:11, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:59:08AM +0100, Lionel Élie Mamane wrote: On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 08:33:26AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you can get a Raspberry Pi 4 - it woill work as a small desktop, more or less silently. To fit extra disks you'll

Re: Is an ARM computer a good choice? Which one?

2023-03-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:59:08AM +0100, Lionel Élie Mamane wrote: > On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 08:33:26AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > If you can get a Raspberry Pi 4 - it woill work as a small desktop, > > more or less silently. To fit extra disks you'll need an add on case > > - somethin

Re: Is an ARM computer a good choice? Which one?

2023-03-21 Thread Lionel Élie Mamane
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 08:33:26AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > If you can get a Raspberry Pi 4 - it woill work as a small desktop, > more or less silently. To fit extra disks you'll need an add on case > - something like the Argon which will take NVME. There are > bottlenecks. It's still ess

Re: Is an ARM computer a good choice? Which one?

2023-03-21 Thread gene heskett
On 3/21/23 03:45, Lionel Élie Mamane wrote: On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:17:50AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Tue, 2023-03-21 at 00:34 +0100, Lionel Élie Mamane wrote: Would an ARM-based machine be a good freedom-respecting computer to run Debian on? I read the Raptor/Power guys saying modern ARM

Re: Is an ARM computer a good choice? Which one?

2023-03-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 08:45:13AM +0100, Lionel Élie Mamane wrote: > On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:17:50AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Tue, 2023-03-21 at 00:34 +0100, Lionel Élie Mamane wrote: > > >> Would an ARM-based machine be a good freedom-respecting computer to > >> run Debian on? I read th

Re: Is an ARM computer a good choice? Which one?

2023-03-21 Thread Lionel Élie Mamane
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:17:50AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, 2023-03-21 at 00:34 +0100, Lionel Élie Mamane wrote: >> Would an ARM-based machine be a good freedom-respecting computer to >> run Debian on? I read the Raptor/Power guys saying modern ARM has >> freedom problems in a, but I have