Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 2:55 PM Ralph Aichinger wrote: > ... Others answered the rest, but one additional point: > Does installing Debian on top of UEFI firmware work yet > in practice > > https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-platforms/tree/master/Platform/RaspberryPi/RPi4 Please note that Debian

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-03-31 Thread Pete Batard
On 2020.03.31 22:02, Ralph Aichinger wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 05:08:35PM +0100, Pete Batard wrote: Not from Debian (AFAIK) but, for the Pi 3, you will find some posts on the Raspberry Pi forums: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=249449&sid=beb9a5a5fc456deef7c00f1ffc0

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-03-31 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 07:37:03PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > For now I use the raspbian kernel in debian, but as you say it is 32 and I > am not into the details, so thank you for the hints. I am probably not telling news, but there is a 64bit kernel in Raspbian. You just have to boot the kernel8.i

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-03-31 Thread Ralph Aichinger
Hi Pete! On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 05:08:35PM +0100, Pete Batard wrote: > Not from Debian (AFAIK) but, for the Pi 3, you will find some posts on the > Raspberry Pi forums: > https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=249449&sid=beb9a5a5fc456deef7c00f1ffc0be1df > as well as a correspond

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-03-31 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:04 PM Pete Batard wrote: > > Hi Arnd, > > On 2020.03.31 19:33, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > There is no need to use ACPI when using the UEFI boot path, that can > > just as well work with a normal DT. > > But there's also no reason to declare that DT should be the only way t

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-03-31 Thread Pete Batard
Hi Arnd, On 2020.03.31 19:33, Arnd Bergmann wrote: There is no need to use ACPI when using the UEFI boot path, that can just as well work with a normal DT. But there's also no reason to declare that DT should be the only way to boot a platform. There is also no need to use UEFI for booting

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-03-31 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7:08 PM Pete Batard wrote: > > Hi Gene, > > On 2020.03.31 17:41, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> The only thing that's missing, really, is for Debian folks to > >> integrate the retrofitted Genet network driver, which we submitted 2 > >> months ago, in the vanilla aarch64 installa

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-03-31 Thread deloptes
Pete Batard wrote: > That's because it uses Device Tree, and the DT based version of the > Genet driver has been in the kernel for a while, so it should be mostly > okay. > > But we have to use ACPI in UEFI for various reasons. The Pi 4 has a few > quirks, especially when it comes to DMA and USB,

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-03-31 Thread Pete Batard
Hi Gene, On 2020.03.31 17:41, Gene Heskett wrote: The only thing that's missing, really, is for Debian folks to integrate the retrofitted Genet network driver, which we submitted 2 months ago, in the vanilla aarch64 installation images... Tweaks my curiosity. That driver doesn't exist in the r

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-03-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 31 March 2020 12:08:35 Pete Batard wrote: > Hi Ralph, > > On 2020.03.31 15:24, Ralph Aichinger wrote: [...] > If you want to help, maybe report that the bug I pointed out above > affects you too, since, if you can live without SD support, it's > pretty much the one thing that stands in

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-03-31 Thread Pete Batard
Hi Ralph, On 2020.03.31 15:24, Ralph Aichinger wrote: Is there some "official" Debian documentation on how to install aarch64 Debian on the Pi 3 or 4 in an "official" (i.e. diverging as little as possible from Debian standards) way? Not from Debian (AFAIK) but, for the Pi 3, you will find some

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-03-31 Thread Wookey
On 2020-03-31 16:24 +0200, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > In comparison to this Debian's Arm64 wiki page lists tons of > obsolete Arm64 hardware that is no longer available, but does > not document the one Arm64 system that is the easiest to buy > in shops very well, in my opinion. > > https://wiki.de

The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-03-31 Thread Ralph Aichinger
Hello! With a little bit of envy I discovered that Ubuntu not only runs in a vanilla flavour on the Raspberry Pi, but that there is a very straightforward download page and stuff seems reasonably documented. In both 32 and 64 bit. https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi In comparison to this De