I've updated the trunk branch in svn for Linux 3.9, so please go ahead
with this.
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On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Lennart Sorensen
wrote:
>> And neither is the same as the quality or sustainability of the
>> resulting software. But if the product line will be be discontinued
>> three months after its introduction, who cares about being able to
>> maintain anything?
>
> Sounds
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Rob Landley wrote:
> On 05/06/2013 07:08:44 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>
>> > I suppose that ARM multi-platform will never cover all ARM CPUs, but
>> > the more it covers, the easier and cheaper it will be to work with new
>> > hardware and ARM.
>>
>>
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 03:01:58PM -0500, Rob Landley wrote:
> And economies of scale are everything to hardware cost. Unit volume
> amortizes the development (and often licensing) costs down, in the
> long run who has the highest unit volume has the cheapest product.
> Being able to reuse off the
Il giorno 06/mag/2013 21:18, "Diego Roversi" ha scritto:
>
> On Mon, 6 May 2013 15:12:36 +0200
> Leonardo Canducci wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't know exactly but I guess I need:
> > - ethernet
> > - 512MB ram or more
> > - up-to-date CPU
> >
>
> May I suggest a sheevaplug:
http://www.globalscaletechno
On 05/06/2013 07:08:44 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> I suppose that ARM multi-platform will never cover all ARM CPUs, but
> the more it covers, the easier and cheaper it will be to work with
new
> hardware and ARM.
no. no, no no and wrong. absolutely dead wrong. you're complet
Matthias Klose dixit:
>Currently java bindings/packages are built for all architectures, however some
>architectures still use gcj as the (only available) Java implementation, and
>some OpenJDK zero ports are non-functional at this point, and Debian porters
>usually don't care about that. So the
On Mon, 6 May 2013 15:12:36 +0200
Leonardo Canducci wrote:
>
> I don't know exactly but I guess I need:
> - ethernet
> - 512MB ram or more
> - up-to-date CPU
>
May I suggest a sheevaplug:
http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-46-sheevaplug-dev-kit.aspx ?
I use one of this, and have a 1Gb
Le 06/05/2013 20:07, Mark Morgan Lloyd a écrit :
> Strictly, it's Forth compiled into fcode; I'm not sure, but possibly also
> used for drivers on PPC Mac disks etc. Whether or not one likes Forth as a
> general-purpose language, it's definitely got its uses.
PPC Mac disks drivers were pure asse
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Leonardo Canducci
wrote:
> 2013/5/6 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton :
>
>> sorry... you've confused me here. if debian only worked on one
>> board, we would all be in trouble!
>>
>> oh i get it: you want a single board that happens to have upstream
>> linux kernel s
Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 06:33:51PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
*click*. now some comments on #arm-netbooks make sense. such as
"sparc has had device tree for 20 years". okay. i get it.
Yes devicetree was invented as a way for embedded powerpc sys
2013/5/6 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton :
> sorry... you've confused me here. if debian only worked on one
> board, we would all be in trouble!
>
> oh i get it: you want a single board that happens to have upstream
> linux kernel support, such that debian is then in a position to
> support _that_
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 06:33:51PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> *click*. now some comments on #arm-netbooks make sense. such as
> "sparc has had device tree for 20 years". okay. i get it.
Yes devicetree was invented as a way for embedded powerpc systems to
provide the same
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd
wrote:
> My understanding- and I admit freely that it's based on cursory research and
> could be entirely wrong- is that DeviceTree is a derivative or at least a
> spin-off of a group of projects which include IEEE 1275 aka OpenFirmware.
*click*
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
mark, thank for this. i'm bringing lkml back in [my decision] but
just this once as i believe the point's now been made. i'm also
leaving it below [top-post style] as it's background, as well as
standing on its own merit.
i was under the impression that devi
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Leonardo Canducci
wrote:
> 2013/5/6 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton :
>
>> kernel upgradeability on ARM devices is *never* easy :) at least on
>> A10 devices it's not like you're spoiled for documentation and howtos.
>> start from http://linux-sunxi.org and
>> http:
mark, thank for this. i'm bringing lkml back in [my decision] but
just this once as i believe the point's now been made. i'm also
leaving it below [top-post style] as it's background, as well as
standing on its own merit.
i was under the impression that device tree had been declared
successful o
Matthias Klose, le Mon 06 May 2013 16:22:30 +0200, a écrit :
> - hurd never had openjdk support, and afaik, nobody is working on that.
There has been work towards this, notably by Jeremie Koenig. I don't
know the status, we just have not made it a strong priority so far.
Samuel
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Le 06/05/2013 14:53, Leonardo Canducci a écrit :> 2013/5/6 Brian Platt
:
>> Couple more are Shevalug, raspberry pi, pogoplug
> They are all obsolete devices. Rpi need a recompiled OS (raspian)
> while I'd like to use 'vanilla' debian.
Why SheevaPlug may be obsolete ?
Le 06/05/2013 15:12, Leonard
It's time to change the Java default to java7, and to drop java support on
architectures with non-working java7.
Patches for the transition to Java7 should be available in the BTS, mostly
submitted by James Page. Some may be still lurking around as diffs in Ubuntu
packages, apologies for that. T
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
And I have a question: as the Debian installer takes the arch armhf in
charge, do you think a standard install' from a netboot image will work
?
this has been on my list for a lng time. as with *all* debian
installer images however you are hampered by the
2013/5/6 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton :
> kernel upgradeability on ARM devices is *never* easy :) at least on
> A10 devices it's not like you're spoiled for documentation and howtos.
> start from http://linux-sunxi.org and
> http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000 and see
>
2013/5/6 Brian Platt :
> Couple more are Shevalug, raspberry pi, pogoplug
They are all obsolete devices. Rpi need a recompiled OS (raspian)
while I'd like to use 'vanilla' debian.
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On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Leonardo Canducci
wrote:
> I hope I'm not OT... I'm a long time debian user but a total noob on arm.
>
> I'd like to set up a toy headless LAMP server on a chap single board
> computer. I'd like to use debian (armhf I guess) and I'm looking for:
> - decent specs
>
james, hi - top-posting or not you make some valid points, and i don't
believe you're subscribed to arm-netbooks so i'm going to take a
liberty and reply briefly inline but keep most of what you've written
intact, apologies to debian-arm and lkml.
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:04 AM, James Courtier-Du
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Oliver Schinagl wrote:
> Note, I'm not qualified nor important or anything really to be part of
> this discussion or mud slinging this may turn into, but I do fine some
> flaws in the reasoning here that If not pointed out, may get grossly
> overlooked.
allo olive
Couple more are Shevalug, raspberry pi, pogoplug
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Leonardo Canducci wrote:
I hope I'm not OT... I'm a long time debian user but a total noob on arm.
I'd like to set up a toy headless LAMP server on a chap single board
compute
Am 06.05.2013 08:53, schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
but the question you have to ask is: why should the HW designers even
care? they're creating an embedded specialist system, they picked the
most cost-effective and most available solution to them - why _should_
they care?
and the a
I hope I'm not OT... I'm a long time debian user but a total noob on arm.
I'd like to set up a toy headless LAMP server on a chap single board
computer. I'd like to use debian (armhf I guess) and I'm looking for:
- decent specs
- painless installation
- upgradablility (kernel and so on)
I don't c
The real problem with any new system, is the hardware is designed and
then it is a challenge for the software developer to get the software
to boot on the new hardware.
The nirvana here would be to take the original hardware circuit
diagram, and process it to automatically create a config file.
The
Note, I'm not qualified nor important or anything really to be part of
this discussion or mud slinging this may turn into, but I do fine some
flaws in the reasoning here that If not pointed out, may get grossly
overlooked.
On 06-05-13 06:09, Robert Hancock wrote:
On 05/05/2013 06:27 AM, Luke
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