2013/5/6 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net>: > sorry... you've confused me here. if debian only worked on one > board, we would all be in trouble! > > oh i get it: you want a single board that happens to have upstream > linux kernel support, such that debian is then in a position to > support _that_, and you can just do "apt-get install > linux-image-N.N.N-xyz"?
Yes! That would be super easy. > > if you want that, you're limited to about.... 5 devices in total. 2 > known ones, for sure. i'm not going to mention what one of them is > [someone else can do it] because they have a person working for them > who caused some serious problems. > > basically it's far too early days and, due to the very diversity > issues being discussed in another thread, the workload for getting > linux kernels upstream and then back downstream into debian is really > very high. I tried to understand as much as I could (not much indeed) but I got the idea. > > you _could_ cut yourself off from the available hardware by making a > decision to only use "supported" hardware, but you'd be one of the > very very few people in the world who does so. I was just wandering if there was an easy path... > > i.e. right now, pretty much everyone does custom kernel builds, and > that really is the end of the matter. Got it. Like in the old days. [snip] >>>> Which one wolud you recommend? Are there alternatives to consider? >>> >>> couple more on top of brian's list: odroid-u2, odroid-x2 (both are >>> easy enough to convert to debian using a chroot bootstrap, see >>> http://lkcl.net/reports/odroid-u2.html) - you can ignore the stuff >>> about MALI. >> >> These are mid-range products (at least twice the price) with >> desktop-like performance. Probably overkill for my purpose. > > :) > >>> >>> it would help you enormously to put out a hardware spec. say, a >>> minimum amount of RAM, minimum number of interfaces etc. >> >> I don't know exactly but I guess I need: >> - ethernet >> - 512MB ram or more >> - up-to-date CPU > > then you probably do mean a 1ghz CPU. don't knock the marvell > products, btw! marvell's architecture benefits from intel having > designed it, basically what they did was put an ARM instruction set > round a superscalar harvard architecture of their *own* making, no > wonder they wouldn't give ARM back the hard macros as they agreed to, > because they didn't _actually_ make any modifications to the crap that > ARM gave them - they did a total reimplementation, and as such were > the first people in the world to have superscalar (out-of-order) > execution of ARM instructions. > > hilarious, and very embarrassing for both ARM and Intel. ARM because > they got trounced for very good reasons [ARM have never actually > designed a decent ARM chip in their lives, they always bought in the > improvements], and Intel because they had a really rather good > *non-x86* chip on their hands that was out-performing every single x86 > offering that they had, in the power-price-performance metrics. > > hur hur :) > > anyway, sorry. yes. 1.2ghz kirkwoods are pretty damn good, > basically. but again if you're ruling out the $85 odroid-u2 i think > sheevaplug / guruplug / dreamplug is out of the kind of price bracket > you're considering. That was informative! Anyway I was ruling them out because of price, low RAM and I was just guessing about obsolescence knowing the last product (dreamplug) is at least two years old. > > ... have you considered an MK802 (or any of its variants) and running > USB ethernet peripherals off of a powered USB hub? don't know if you > can do that - it *should* be possible... hmmm.... Specs are real good but it's too much hassle to get a much needed ethernet. > > l. Thanks a lot! -- Leonardo Canducci -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPGGYntwkyLM6G5GLORDwQcrnE-L_bitM8CPYC1xA=9hyfa...@mail.gmail.com
