Re: sheevaplug: detect disks failure

2010-07-06 Thread Michael Trim
On 7 July 2010 06:27, Hai Nguyen Dang wrote: > Hi Christoph, > Just sharing. I tried the automatic process but failed, too. It doesn't > detect any USB or external USB HDD that I have. So I've gone through the > manual installation and it works fine. I really don't know what is the > problem with

Re: sheevaplug: detect disks failure

2010-07-06 Thread Hai Nguyen Dang
Hi Christoph, Just sharing. I tried the automatic process but failed, too. It doesn't detect any USB or external USB HDD that I have. So I've gone through the manual installation and it works fine. I really don't know what is the problem with the automatic installer, but never mind, you can install

Re: sheevaplug: detect disks failure

2010-07-06 Thread Reza Issany
Hi, I think you have to cross compile debian ln your machine before place it into an sd card, usb stick, or the flash memory of the sheevaplug. Cordialement, zerros. Le 6 juil. 2010 à 23:59, "Christoph A." a écrit : Hi, I'm trying to install debian (stable or testing) on a sheevaplug,

sheevaplug: detect disks failure

2010-07-06 Thread Christoph A.
Hi, I'm trying to install debian (stable or testing) on a sheevaplug, but both fail to detect the 'disk' - see attachment. I used the well known howto for that task: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/install.html Is there a way around that problem? best regards, Christoph <>

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010, Joey Hess wrote: > Could the targeted CPU be used in the name? Ie, armelv7. I would be a bit scared that this has a chance of getting out of date, or be confusing because other ports might be v7 as well, or also because this only reflects a subset of the ports' requirement

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010, Wookey wrote: > The reason is that softfp will work on devices with and without FPUs. > hardfp only works on devices with fpus, whilst still allowing the > optional use of FPU units when present. So for a binary distribution > it makes sense as the most general option. To c

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Joey Hess
Brian Szymanski wrote: > This seems like the right move, particularly since int-heavy code won't > benefit at all from this change. IMHO, what we really want is to take > advantage of features on more "modern" arm cpus - the user shouldn't > have to care if that's because of hardfp or thumb-2 or wh

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Brian Szymanski
On 07/06/2010 03:43 PM, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2010-07-06, Brian Szymanski wrote: > >> Suggested arch names: armfast / armfull ? >> > to later be superceded by armfaster, armsuperfast, armmegafast ? > Heh, no. What I meant was a moving target that has a higher threshold than armel -

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Wookey
+++ Wookey [2010-07-06 19:36 +0100]: > +++ Hector Oron [2010-07-06 19:30 +0200]: oops - unhelpful typo in my mail: > There are fields in the elf headers to indicate cababilities used in a > binary which are not currently used by the compiler which would help > in automatically ensuring that CPUs

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-07-06, Brian Szymanski wrote: > Suggested arch names: armfast / armfull ? to later be superceded by armfaster, armsuperfast, armmegafast ? /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.or

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Brian Szymanski
On 07/06/2010 02:38 PM, Loïc Minier wrote: > During these chats, I heard other suggestions around a new port > notably, optimizing for much more recent CPUs such as armv7+. Ubuntu > did see quite a difference by moving all the way up to armv7 + thumb-2. > This seems like the right move, par

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Wookey
+++ Hector Oron [2010-07-06 19:30 +0200]: > " There are 3 ABIs in armel right now, regarding the use of the fpu: a) soft > (no > fpu used, all fpu math is done software only, using libgcc fallback > functions), b) softfp (the fpu is used, but function arguments are passed > through the integer re

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010, Hector Oron wrote: > On the other hand, one can imagine providing only a set of optimized > softfp libraries in addition to the default soft one, that are selected > at runtime. " > -- Aurelien So we tried this in Ubuntu, and it doesn't yield much; we had a vfp libc6, gtk

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
On Tuesday 06 July 2010 20:45:33 Paul Brook wrote: > Debian is pure soft-float (i.e. -mfloat-abi=soft). Right, all the more reason for a new flavour then :) > -mfloat-abi=soft and -mfloat-abi=softfp are binary compatible (objects and > libraries can be freely mixed). Obviously softfp code will wi

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Clint Adams
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 07:30:13PM +0200, Hector Oron wrote: > I would also like to comment that genesi-usa has been kind enough to > provide with hardware (EfikaMX [2]) to some of the leading people on > Debian projects as Live, Emdebian and Edu. If you want to work on the > port, there might be a

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
On Tuesday 06 July 2010 20:30:13 Hector Oron wrote: ... > some preliminary results gave me 20-25% speed increase on exactly the same > software/hardware configuration (eg. glxgears on software mesa reports 145 > fps vs 120 fps). Just one comment, some more benchmarking [1] revealed ~35% speed

Re: armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Paul Brook
A couple of inaccuracies: > These are configured by the gcc flags: -mfloat-abi={soft,softfp,hard}. > Softfp is the default in pretty much every distro out there (incl. Ubuntu, > Debian, etc). Only some OpenEmbedded builds have enabled hardfp, but these > are too specialized. Debian is pure soft-f

armelfp: new architecture name for an armel variant

2010-07-06 Thread Hector Oron
Dear armel porters, I am writting this letter to you by out concern of having to pick up a name for a new armel architecture variant optimized for hard floating point, instead soft floating point. Konstantinos (and I shall be also supporting him) is willing to maintain a new architecture fo

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