Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Čt, 05. 08. 2004 v 15:51, Richard Zidlicky píše: > > Maybe if we > > loaded it at one place in FastRAM but passed different values to the > > kernel that would match the linux PMMU setup it could work? > > Allocate fastram, get the physical address of every allocated page > (ptestr on 68040, plp

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 15:27, Petr Stehlik wrote: > Also note I had to increase the ramdisk size to 8192 kB to allow woody > to fit there. Obviously, since the default ramdisk size is 4096k and the Debian installation ramdisk is bigger. Anyhow, this came up before: On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 15:24, St

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 03:58:54PM +0200, Kars de Jong wrote: > On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 15:27, Petr Stehlik wrote: > > Also note I had to increase the ramdisk size to 8192 kB to allow woody > > to fit there. > > Obviously, since the default ramdisk size is 4096k and the Debian > installation ramdisk

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Pá, 06. 08. 2004 v 14:04, Geert Uytterhoeven píše: > > This has been clear to me. The question was what to pass to the kernel > > in the bootinfo struct so it would find the ramdisk. Does the bootinfo > > contains physical addresses? If it did then loading ramdisk to fastram > > Perhaps it's ove

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Pá, 06. 08. 2004 v 14:04, Geert Uytterhoeven píše: > You do have CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y? yes > Does the kernel print the ramdisk addresses during boot up (cfr. > arch/m68k/kernel/setup.c)? I am currently testing it on ARAnyM since I am not at home and so I can just say that kernel 2.2.25 does

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Petr Stehlik wrote: > V ?t, 05. 08. 2004 v 15:51, Richard Zidlicky pí¨e: > > > loaded it at one place in FastRAM but passed different values to the > > > kernel that would match the linux PMMU setup it could work? > > > > Allocate fastram, get the physical address of every alloc

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 05:25:09PM +0200, Petr Stehlik wrote: > V Út, 03. 08. 2004 v 16:36, Geert Uytterhoeven píše: > > > 1) kernel and ramdisk must be in the same contiguous memory (IIUIC) > > > > Perhaps this restriction can be relaxed? > > that's the only sensible chance we have. But for that

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Čt, 05. 08. 2004 v 15:51, Richard Zidlicky píše: > > loaded it at one place in FastRAM but passed different values to the > > kernel that would match the linux PMMU setup it could work? > > Allocate fastram, get the physical address of every allocated page > (ptestr on 68040, plpar on 68060), so

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 10:48:41PM +0200, Petr Stehlik wrote: > V Út, 03. 08. 2004 v 15:40, Stephen R Marenka pí?e: > > I'm thinking that dumping the (4MB) initrd to harddisk should work. > > for some unknown reason I cannot get this trick to work with the sarge's > d-i. It does work for woody's r

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Út, 03. 08. 2004 v 15:40, Stephen R Marenka píše: > I'm thinking that dumping the (4MB) initrd to harddisk should work. for some unknown reason I cannot get this trick to work with the sarge's d-i. It does work for woody's ramdisk, though. Note that I tried also the "init=/bin/sh". No help. Ker

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 02:28:43PM +0200, Petr Stehlik wrote: > V St, 04. 08. 2004 v 14:02, Stephen R Marenka pí?e: > > > Warning: unable to open an initial console. > > > > Whenever I see that warning on my 2.2-based Quadra 950's, I know that > > it's never going to come up. I've never tracked it

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V St, 04. 08. 2004 v 14:02, Stephen R Marenka píše: > > Warning: unable to open an initial console. > > Whenever I see that warning on my 2.2-based Quadra 950's, I know that > it's never going to come up. I've never tracked it down though, I just > reboot. It always prints this message. You say

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Út, 03. 08. 2004 v 16:36, Geert Uytterhoeven píše: > > 1) kernel and ramdisk must be in the same contiguous memory (IIUIC) > > Perhaps this restriction can be relaxed? that's the only sensible chance we have. But for that we need someone with pretty good kernel internals knowledge willing to co

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Petr Stehlik wrote: > on Atari the kernel is still started from TOS using the bootstrap.prg > (similarly to loadlin.exe). Now there are three conditions: > > 1) kernel and ramdisk must be in the same contiguous memory (IIUIC) Perhaps this restriction can be relaxed? At least in

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Út, 03. 08. 2004 v 15:40, Stephen R Marenka píše: > > can I try the 13 MB ramdisk? Is it for download somewhere? > > I'd have to build one for atari. please put a note _at_the_end (=low priority) of your TODO that I'd like to give such 13 MB beast a try. > I'm thinking that dumping the (4MB) i

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 03:20:17PM +0200, Petr Stehlik wrote: > V Út, 03. 08. 2004 v 14:51, Stephen R Marenka pí?e: > > The ramdisk you're looking at there is used to setup a shmfs root disk > > in ram, populate it, and pivot_root to make it the root. d-i proceeds > > from there. > > I could proba

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Út, 03. 08. 2004 v 14:51, Stephen R Marenka píše: > The ramdisk you're looking at there is used to setup a shmfs root disk > in ram, populate it, and pivot_root to make it the root. d-i proceeds > from there. I could probably do the same manually and make it root by passing root=/dev/hdx? But wh

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 02:33:00PM +0200, Petr Stehlik wrote: > V Út, 03. 08. 2004 v 14:20, Stephen R Marenka pí?e: > > > Could please someone with Atari (and their own working kernel) give it a > > > try and tell me if the d-i works or not. I tried several last builds but > > > it doesn't do anyth

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Út, 03. 08. 2004 v 14:20, Stephen R Marenka píše: > > Could please someone with Atari (and their own working kernel) give it a > > try and tell me if the d-i works or not. I tried several last builds but > > it doesn't do anything. I am also wondering if it's OK that the ramdisk > > file of Sarge

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 01:42:17PM +0200, Petr Stehlik wrote: > V ?t, 29. 07. 2004 v 20:36, Stephen R Marenka pí?e: > > This applies to anyone who'd like to help make sure that the debian > > installer actually works on m68k. > > > > d-i's home page is at

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Čt, 29. 07. 2004 v 20:36, Stephen R Marenka píše: > This applies to anyone who'd like to help make sure that the debian > installer actually works on m68k. > > d-i's home page is at . > > m68k daily builds are at >

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Pá, 30. 07. 2004 v 15:41, Stephen R Marenka píše: > > P.S. I hope Stephen now takes my sarge installation bug report more > > seriously when he sees my machine actually can run linux :-) > > I totally take you seriously. I'm just not clear what to do about it > yet. I got the connectors for nul

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 03:27:51AM +0200, Petr Stehlik wrote: > P.S. I hope Stephen now takes my sarge installation bug report more > seriously when he sees my machine actually can run linux :-) I totally take you seriously. I'm just not clear what to do about it yet. > P.P.S. it would be good i

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 03:09:27AM +0200, Petr Stehlik wrote: > > Partition check: > > request_module[block-major-3]: Root fs not mounted > > VFS: Cannot open root device 03:05 > > Kernel panic: Unable to mount root fs > > > > Not sure if this due to the minix instead of ext2fs or if the ramdisk >

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Pá, 30. 07. 2004 v 03:17, Wouter Verhelst píše: > > Unfortunately in 5 seconds there started to scroll an error message > > saying "bogl: don't know screen type 2".. > > Could you try booting with "nolangchooser"? That should disable bogl, > and make installation possible, albeit without the lan

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

> Partition check: > request_module[block-major-3]: Root fs not mounted > VFS: Cannot open root device 03:05 > Kernel panic: Unable to mount root fs > > Not sure if this due to the minix instead of ext2fs or if the ramdisk > simply must be in /dev/ram since the stock kernel has no useful drivers >

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Čt, 29. 07. 2004 v 21:56, Geert Uytterhoeven píše: > So you should dd the ramdisk image to a spare partition, and use that > partition > as the root file system. Last four hours I tried to do just that with help of FreeMiNT since no linux is running on my machine ATM. Since I couldn't find a 'd

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 09:56:43PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Petr Stehlik wrote: > > V ?t, 29. 07. 2004 v 20:36, Stephen R Marenka pí?e: > > > > Any chance the 781842 is in fact a gzipped size? So that the unpacked > > > > kernel (that will be stored in RAM) is say 1.5

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Petr Stehlik wrote: > V ?t, 29. 07. 2004 v 21:56, Geert Uytterhoeven pí¨e: > > So you should dd the ramdisk image to a spare partition, and use that > > partition > > as the root file system. > > Cool. That way 2 MB of ST-RAM could be almost enough. Did I overlook > this metho

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Čt, 29. 07. 2004 v 21:56, Geert Uytterhoeven píše: > So you should dd the ramdisk image to a spare partition, and use that > partition > as the root file system. Cool. That way 2 MB of ST-RAM could be almost enough. Did I overlook this method in the installation guide? What would the bootstrap

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Čt, 29. 07. 2004 v 21:43, Petr Stehlik píše: > Well. On machines where ramdisk cannot be loaded to FastRAM the 2 MB of > ST-RAM is clearly not enough. And since the kernel + initrd is no less > than 6 MB it's safe to say that even 4 MB of ST-RAM is not enough When I am thinking about it again: b

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Petr Stehlik wrote: > V ?t, 29. 07. 2004 v 20:36, Stephen R Marenka pí¨e: > > > Any chance the 781842 is in fact a gzipped size? So that the unpacked > > > kernel (that will be stored in RAM) is say 1.5 MB large? > > > > duh! 1656864. > > Well. On machines where ramdisk cannot

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Čt, 29. 07. 2004 v 20:36, Stephen R Marenka píše: > > Any chance the 781842 is in fact a gzipped size? So that the unpacked > > kernel (that will be stored in RAM) is say 1.5 MB large? > > duh! 1656864. Well. On machines where ramdisk cannot be loaded to FastRAM the 2 MB of ST-RAM is clearly no

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 05:39:19PM +0200, Petr Stehlik wrote: > Any chance the 781842 is in fact a gzipped size? So that the unpacked > kernel (that will be stored in RAM) is say 1.5 MB large? duh! 1656864. > > Anyone? > > Most 68030+ Atari computers have either 4MB ST-RAM or more. So I'd say >

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V Čt, 29. 07. 2004 v 17:32, Stephen R Marenka píše: > > Are you sure that 2 MB is enough? Considering that it needs to load the > > bootstrap, the kernel image and also the ramdisk all to the ST-RAM? Or > > is the ramdisk loaded to FastRAM already? The question is whether the > > kernel itself fits

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 08:06:40PM +1000, david howe wrote: > Nice to see someone actually putting in specific platform advice. > > Quickly looking over the video section (with an eye to the mac specific > areas) I am reminded that one of the biggest headaches new installs run > into is with the x

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 11:40:57AM +0200, Petr Stehlik wrote: > V St, 28. 07. 2004 v 18:28, Stephen R Marenka pí?e: > > On the Atari, both ST-RAM and Fast RAM (TT-RAM) are used by Linux. Many > > users have reported problems running the kernel itself in Fast RAM, so > > the Atari bootstrap will

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

Nice to see someone actually putting in specific platform advice. Quickly looking over the video section (with an eye to the mac specific areas) I am reminded that one of the biggest headaches new installs run into is with the xserver. Besides making a general reference to the xfree site, what inf

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

V St, 28. 07. 2004 v 18:28, Stephen R Marenka píše: > On the Atari, both ST-RAM and Fast RAM (TT-RAM) are used by Linux. Many > users have reported problems running the kernel itself in Fast RAM, so > the Atari bootstrap will place the kernel in ST-RAM. The minimum > requirement for ST-RAM is 2

Re: Debian Sarge Installation Manual

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > 2.5. Memory and Disk Space Requirements > > On the Amiga the size of FastRAM is relevant towards the total memory > requirements. Also, using Zorro cards with 16-bit RAM is not supported; > you'll need 32-bit RAM. The amiboot program can be used to

Debian Sarge Installation Manual

We need to make sure the m68k documentation is up-to-date for the sarge installation manual. If you'd like to look over the whole manual, my updates are at . Are the following bits okay? 2.5. Memory and Disk Space Requirements