Re: Talk/event proposals "Closed source"

2018-03-21 Thread shirish शिरीष
Reply in-line :- On 21/03/2018, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > OK keep them closed. But at least at the bottom of > https://debconf18.debconf.org/talks/new/ > mention (before he hits the submit button) that > > "Your proposal will be held for review and only will be made public if > approved." > Actu

Re: Talk/event proposals "Closed source"

2018-03-21 Thread Carl Karsten
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > On 20.03.2018 23:07, Carl Karsten wrote: > >> Can someone elaborate on why >> "unfortunately means rejecting some." >> is a reason to keep anything about this secret? > > Because if we make public the rejection, less people will submit ta

Re: Talk/event proposals "Closed source"

2018-03-21 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
OK keep them closed. But at least at the bottom of https://debconf18.debconf.org/talks/new/ mention (before he hits the submit button) that "Your proposal will be held for review and only will be made public if approved." Else it might take weeks for him to find that his e.g., https://debconf18.d

Re: Talk/event proposals "Closed source"

2018-03-21 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
On 20.03.2018 23:07, Carl Karsten wrote: > Can someone elaborate on why > "unfortunately means rejecting some." > is a reason to keep anything about this secret? Because if we make public the rejection, less people will submit talks. Debian (and Free Software) communities suffer of the impostor

Re: Talk/event proposals "Closed source"

2018-03-21 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 04:42:52PM +0800, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > But then he is also too embarrassed to rally support for his proposals > by posting them to debconf-discuss etc. instead of waiting for them to > first be approved. rallying for support on debconf-discuss and twitter and whatnot t

Re: Talk/event proposals "Closed source"

2018-03-21 Thread shirish शिरीष
Reply at bottom :- On 21/03/2018, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: >> "CK" == Carl Karsten writes: >>> You can see last year's schedule¹ > > All that looks good. But I am worried about what we don't see: the > rejected items. > > Maybe in the future have a radio > ( ) Only make my proposal public if

Re: Talk/event proposals "Closed source"

2018-03-21 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
> "CK" == Carl Karsten writes: >> You can see last year's schedule¹ All that looks good. But I am worried about what we don't see: the rejected items. Maybe in the future have a radio ( ) Only make my proposal public if it is approved. ( ) Make my proposal public now, even though it hasn't g

Re: Talk/event proposals "Closed source"

2018-03-20 Thread shirish शिरीष
On 21/03/2018, Carl Karsten wrote: > > I have always wondered about this. > > I am not arguing for or against anything, just trying to understand, > and I suspect help others understand too. > > Can someone elaborate on why > "unfortunately means rejecting some." > is a reason to keep anything

Re: Talk/event proposals "Closed source"

2018-03-20 Thread Carl Karsten
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 3:59 PM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > I feel that as recurring Content Lead, I should join and answer this > thread, even if it has been mostly answered. > > Holger Levsen dijo [Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 01:36:46PM +]: >> > It seems talk/event proposals go into a black box until app

Re: Talk/event proposals "Closed source"

2018-03-20 Thread Gunnar Wolf
I feel that as recurring Content Lead, I should join and answer this thread, even if it has been mostly answered. Holger Levsen dijo [Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 01:36:46PM +]: > > It seems talk/event proposals go into a black box until approved > > by a "secret" committee, or discarded. > > the me

Re: Talk/event proposals "Closed source"

2018-03-20 Thread Yao Wei
Not only lightning talks, but we have unconferences that everyone can sign up on site. On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 at 21:37 Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 04:22:46PM +0800, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > > It seems talk/event proposals go into a black box until approved by a > "secret" > > com

Re: Talk/event proposals "Closed source"

2018-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 04:22:46PM +0800, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > It seems talk/event proposals go into a black box until approved by a "secret" > committee, or discarded. the members of the content team are public, there is not secret committee. > In fact > https://debconf18.debconf.org/cfp/

Talk/event proposals "Closed source"

2018-03-20 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
It seems talk/event proposals go into a black box until approved by a "secret" committee, or discarded. In fact https://debconf18.debconf.org/cfp/ doesn't mention that proposals are secret, which is quite different than one would expect with Debian, and https://debconf18.debconf.org/talks/new/