Re: [Debconf-team] On the "local team"

2015-09-28 Thread Martín Ferrari
On 26/09/15 20:40, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Tassia Camoes Araujo [2015-09-23 23:42 +0200]: >> Do you think that the Chairs have any issue about the existance of >> local team? This is not true. For DC16, the local team of Cape >> Town made the *choice* of working within mixed teams of

Re: [Debconf-team] Fixing the Debconf Delagation

2015-09-28 Thread Martín Ferrari
On 23/09/15 18:59, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > I haven't followed the current debate closely, so I won't comment on any > specifics, except: > On 23/09/15 at 13:15 +0100, Philip Hands wrote: >> I think this is a symptom of a problem that is actually built into the >> current delegation. >> >> The dele

[Debconf-team] Next two weeks' meetings: Website, Timeline et al

2015-09-28 Thread Bernelle Verster
Hi all Website: * There is a local website meeting between Tammy (tamo), Raoul (superfly) and Jonathan (highvoltage) tonight. I expect they will be on IRC for chatting as well. This is not 'dev' stuff (what do I call that?), but to do with design and content. * There will likely not be a 'dev stuf

Re: [Debconf-team] Next two weeks' meetings: Website, Timeline et al

2015-09-28 Thread Bernelle Verster
bugger, sorry, I forgot to include this one (was looking for it and then got distracted) DC15 final report sprint: We're collecting content here: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf15/FinalReport #dc-team Monday 1900 UTC. On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Bernelle Verster wrote: > Hi all > >

Re: [Debconf-team] On the "local team"

2015-09-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Martín Ferrari [2015-09-28 10:33 +0200]: > I agree with big parts of it, but I really don't understand what > is being proposed here, or even what is being criticised. That the > local team is asked to join long-lived teams instead of roaming > free? Well, that was one of many points w

Re: [Debconf-team] Fixing the Debconf Delagation

2015-09-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Martín Ferrari [2015-09-28 10:49 +0200]: > It has been used, in situations where we felt that important parts > of DebConf were at risk: budgetary decisions, sponsors > relationships, volunteers motivation, and even some basic tenets > of the conference were at stake. Every time this h

Re: [Debconf-team] On the "local team"

2015-09-28 Thread Martín Ferrari
On 28/09/15 12:46, martin f krafft wrote: > This is not to say that everything about the teams structure is bad, > nor that "institutional memory, clear responsibilities, and > boundaries" aren't necessary. But that there are learnings of the > past 12 months that need to be considered, and two of

Re: [Debconf-team] Fixing the Debconf Delagation

2015-09-28 Thread Martín Ferrari
On 28/09/15 12:54, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Martín Ferrari [2015-09-28 10:49 +0200]: >> It has been used, in situations where we felt that important parts >> of DebConf were at risk: budgetary decisions, sponsors >> relationships, volunteers motivation, and even some basic tenets >> of

Re: [Debconf-team] Fixing the Debconf Delagation

2015-09-28 Thread martin f krafft
Tincho, if you want to take things to the personal level, I suggest you mail me directly. I refute all of your accusations, mostly because you chose to present only half the picture. You are of course entitled to your own opinion, yet I would kindly like to ask you to refrain from spreading misi

Re: [Debconf-team] Fixing the Debconf Delagation

2015-09-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 28/09/15 at 11:49 +0300, Martín Ferrari wrote: > On 23/09/15 18:59, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > I haven't followed the current debate closely, so I won't comment on any > > specifics, except: > > On 23/09/15 at 13:15 +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > >> I think this is a symptom of a problem that is

Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 final report sprint 2015-09-28 1900 UTC

2015-09-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft [2015-09-26 21:37 +0200]: > the DC15 final report needs to get done. We're collecting content > here: > > https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf15/FinalReport > > Please see what you can contribute. Thanks to everyone who took part in the little sprint. There is sti