On 28/09/15 12:46, martin f krafft wrote: > This is not to say that everything about the teams structure is bad, > nor that "institutional memory, clear responsibilities, and > boundaries" aren't necessary. But that there are learnings of the > past 12 months that need to be considered, and two of those are: > > - embracing the local team > - ensuring people can use their time to do work towards the > conference organisation, rather than losing their energy trying > to figure out how to start
Like I said in my previous email, I don't see how this is suppposed to happen. > Please be reminded that we all went along and supported the teams > structure installation for the first 6 months, even though it really > hurt us to have to wait months for the teams to be formed before we > could resume work on DebConf, and we some of us disagreed with > aspects of your proposal. That is certainly not the way I remember things happening. You had to wait for people to do work, yes, but it was not really the teams formation what delayed much anything, but people taking more time that you considered was needed, while at the same time not being allowed to overstep their area of responsibility. We can all agree that some teams missed their deadlines or were not particularly responsive, yes. But the issues came when instead of pushing through the coordination team for them to wake up, people tried to just override other people. Or when deadlines were pushed to teams without sensible justifications, or agreement. If we are going to conclude that this did not work, I would like to hear more concrete evaluations of the problems. > But when the teams were finally defined and memberships canvassed, > it didn't work out as expected. Some teams remained leaderless, > others had leaders and shadows who didn't participate, and the were > countless open questions about competencies and roles that nobody > ever addressed. Which team remained leaderless? Apart from the one that was not formed, and the local team took its place. Can you also point out which leaders did not participate? I don't know which open questions about competences remain open.. This has been documented, and explained many times in different media. Can you elaborate? -- Martín Ferrari (Tincho) _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
