Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

2015-08-31 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Tassia Camoes Araujo [2015-08-31 05:30 +0200]: > Maybe what we lack is a "Welcome team" for DebConf orga. Another team… > Also, having a separate IRC channel and mailing list for > volunteers that don't want to go deep into dc orga discutions but > what to help with specific tasks se

Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

2015-08-30 Thread Tassia Camoes Araujo
Hi Bernelle, On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 11:19:17AM +0200, Bernelle Verster wrote: > > There was talk about merging the dc-team and dc16-team mailing lists, > but I think now that we should keep the dc16 list for the per-task > discussions, and as the 'global' component take special care to keep > th

Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

2015-08-30 Thread Tassia Camoes Araujo
Hi Jergas, On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 03:05:55PM -0400, Jergas Apwith wrote: > > Since I find both positions valid and valuable, I propose some sort of > synthesis. Maybe a subgroup of the unified global/local team. Also, a clear > policy/roadmap for new or local volunteers to join the organization,

Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

2015-08-30 Thread Tassia Camoes Araujo
Hi Michael, On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 04:14:24PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > > What I am missing (or maybe overlooked) are the rationales for those. > I.e. was this discussed somewhere other than at the orga sprint (which I > unfortunately missed due to a dayjob conflict) and between the chairs >

Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

2015-08-30 Thread Bernelle Verster
Hi I feel the same as Nigel and Allison stated. I think from the discussion on this thread that the DC16 team that attended DC15 can be considered as part of the 'global' team, and that new volunteers would be considered local. I imagine these to be people who may only want to get involved with sm

Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

2015-08-29 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:14:01PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote: > On 08/29/2015 03:01 AM, Margarita Manterola wrote: > > When I advocate for the local team it's not for these people, but for > > the volunteers that will show up along the way. For those volunteers, > > joining debconf-team is traum

Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

2015-08-29 Thread Jergas Apwith
Hey All, I know from experience, not just with DebConf but with other conferences and volunteer efforts as well, that Marga's points are very pertinent and paying attention to them will make the job much sweeter for the organizers. However, I also feel the vibe behind the Capetowners move to merge

Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

2015-08-29 Thread Allison Randal
On 08/29/2015 03:01 AM, Margarita Manterola wrote: > > When I advocate for the local team it's not for these people, but for > the volunteers that will show up along the way. For those volunteers, > joining debconf-team is traumatic. There's too many flamewars, too > many things going on at the s

Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

2015-08-29 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi, Thanks for the reply. Having read this, I think that the problem lies at what each of us identifies as "local team", we are clearly thinking of different things. I wish we could have had this discussion at DebConf. When I say that there should be a local team, it does not mean that members o

Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

2015-08-28 Thread Allison Randal
On 08/27/2015 01:31 PM, Margarita Manterola wrote: > > DC16 team, can you please elaborate on this? I've been a fierce > supporter of the existence of the local team, as it gives people that > are local and are new to DebConf a space to which they can feel like > they belong and in my experience

Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

2015-08-28 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 01:26:23PM -0400, Tassia Camoes Araujo wrote: > After the orga sprint and other conversations during DC15 we (the Chairs) have > adapted the orgateam structure to address people's requests and our own > perception of needs. We have shaped those changes together with the

Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

2015-08-27 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Margarita Manterola [2015-08-27 22:31 +0200]: > DC16 team, can you please elaborate on this? I've been a fierce > supporter of the existence of the local team, as it gives people that > are local and are new to DebConf a space to which they can feel like > they belong and in my exper

Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

2015-08-27 Thread Nigel Kukard
On Thursday 27 August 2015 22:31:38 Margarita Manterola wrote: >HI, > >On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Tassia Camoes Araujo >wrote: >> About localteam: we were open to nominate the localteam in the teams >> structure, >> since it was a strong request from dc15 people, though dc16 team prefers t

Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

2015-08-27 Thread Margarita Manterola
HI, On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Tassia Camoes Araujo wrote: > About localteam: we were open to nominate the localteam in the teams > structure, > since it was a strong request from dc15 people, though dc16 team prefers to > work without the local/global split. There are some tasks and respo