Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2012-03-16 Thread Moray Allan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > If you do the latter, I think it's clear that you don't want any of the > individuals to have a conflict of interest My argument before was simply that we have by far a large enough supply of people who don't want travel sponsorship, so tha

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2012-03-16 Thread Philip Hands
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:23:06 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Moray Allan dijo [Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:06:34PM +]: > > > Select people that are, initially farthest from me (or from all the > > > team members) in the web of trust, probably in small batches, as ding > > > this one at a time will

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2012-03-16 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Moray Allan dijo [Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:22:48PM +]: > - In an ideal world, I don't think we would do travel money allocation > completely independently each year. While a new method for choosing voters > might increase the variation in results between years, making the problem > less bad, if

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2012-03-16 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Moray Allan dijo [Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:06:34PM +]: > > Select people that are, initially farthest from me (or from all the > > team members) in the web of trust, probably in small batches, as ding > > this one at a time will take too long. > > > > I don't have an opinion on whether this

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2012-03-15 Thread Moray Allan
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > Definitely not -- that's what I meant by asking people to do their > ordering as though they were solely responsible -- if they know that one > person is claiming 5 times what someone else asked for the same route, > then I think it's fine f

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2012-03-15 Thread Philip Hands
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:22:48 +, Moray Allan wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > > > Then, for the allocation of funds, just ask people to place people in > > order of preference as though they were solely and personally > > responsible for allocating the funds, po

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2012-03-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:22:48PM +, Moray Allan wrote: > ICBW but I'm not sure Condorcet is sensible for a multi-winner election? Right, but it can be adapted. The following commentare seems relevant: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2007/06/msg00261.html I haven't yet thought long

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2012-03-15 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 03/15/2012 06:22 PM, Moray Allan wrote: ICBW but I'm not sure Condorcet is sensible for a multi-winner election? There are several mechanisms to use condorcet to produce an overall ranking (with possibility of some ambiguity if there is ambiguity in the electorate): https://en.wikipedia.

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2012-03-15 Thread Moray Allan
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > Then, for the allocation of funds, just ask people to place people in > order of preference as though they were solely and personally > responsible for allocating the funds, possibly including a couple of > markers, like "Should Fund above" a

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2012-03-15 Thread Moray Allan
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > Just to reiterate the idea I'm pushing: > > Select people that are, initially farthest from me (or from all the > team members) in the web of trust, probably in small batches, as ding > this one at a time will take too long. > I don't hav

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2012-03-15 Thread Philip Hands
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:07:53 +, Moray Allan wrote: > Phil and Richard, > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > > > On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:32:49 -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > > ... > > > Phil, would you like to be travel sponsorship team leader next year? > > > > No. > > >

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2012-03-15 Thread Moray Allan
Phil and Richard, On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:32:49 -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > ... > > Phil, would you like to be travel sponsorship team leader next year? > > No. > > ;-) > > > I will provide all support needed to make it a success. > > Oh, al

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2011-06-07 Thread Richard Darst
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 06:23:42PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > I will provide all support needed to make it a success. > > Oh, alright then. (I suppose that's what I deserve for saying the V word) yay! Here is my first gift to The New Team: explaining the situation as it stands and my thoug

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2011-06-07 Thread Brian Gupta
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Richard Darst wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:17:30PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> Hi, >> >> someone approached me today with the following thought / idea: >> >> "As your sponsorship meeting is a bit late, how about approving travel >>  sponsorship for a sele

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2011-06-07 Thread Philip Hands
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:32:49 -0400, Richard Darst wrote: ... > Phil, would you like to be travel sponsorship team leader next year? No. ;-) > I will provide all support needed to make it a success. Oh, alright then. (I suppose that's what I deserve for saying the V word) Cheers, Phil. -- |)|

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2011-06-07 Thread Richard Darst
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:17:30PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Hi, > > someone approached me today with the following thought / idea: > > "As your sponsorship meeting is a bit late, how about approving travel > sponsorship for a selected set of people earlier? It seems a shame to > wait until

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2011-06-07 Thread micah anderson
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 23:53:20 +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 23:17:30 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > Hi, > > > > someone approached me today with the following thought / idea: > > As is perhaps obvious, that was me. > > See my ramblings in the other thread just now. Sorry ab

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2011-06-07 Thread Meike Reichle
Joerg Jaspert @ 06.06.2011 23:17: Hi, someone approached me today with the following thought / idea: "As your sponsorship meeting is a bit late, how about approving travel sponsorship for a selected set of people earlier? It seems a shame to wait until the meeting is done as the travel prices

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2011-06-07 Thread Holger Levsen
On Montag, 6. Juni 2011, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > We did have some discussion about that. My main trouble with this idea > is "Who the heck do we define as "obviously deserving""? localteam of next debconf, in this case, dc12. ___ Debconf-team mailing lis

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2011-06-06 Thread Marcelo Gutierrez
2011/6/6 Philip Hands > On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 23:17:30 +0200, Joerg Jaspert > wrote: > > Hi, > Hi! :) > > > > someone approached me today with the following thought / idea: > > As is perhaps obvious, that was me. > > See my ramblings in the other thread just now. Sorry about that, I > somehow di

Re: [Debconf-team] Early travel sponsorship

2011-06-06 Thread Philip Hands
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 23:17:30 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Hi, > > someone approached me today with the following thought / idea: As is perhaps obvious, that was me. See my ramblings in the other thread just now. Sorry about that, I somehow didn't see this before writing that, although I don't