Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf governance & 'Debian Deutschland' name and TO status

2014-04-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi [2014-04-28 14:53 +0200]: > You focus too much on quick decisions, but then you will find your > team alone when approaching DC15. There's a fundamental problem here to which you are alluding, and the way to solve it is not by delaying decisions and involving everyon

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf governance & 'Debian Deutschland' name and TO status

2014-04-28 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Hello Martin, On 28.04.2014 14:05, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Brian Gupta [2014-04-28 13:36 +0200]: I think one thing that has helped me in the past is to keep in mind that when I work on something in a DebConf subteam, that we are working on a proposal for presentation to the larger t

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf governance & 'Debian Deutschland' name and TO status

2014-04-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brian Gupta [2014-04-28 13:36 +0200]: > I think one thing that has helped me in the past is to keep in mind > that when I work on something in a DebConf subteam, that we are > working on a proposal for presentation to the larger team, and need to > understand that the proposal may not

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf governance & 'Debian Deutschland' name and TO status

2014-04-28 Thread Brian Gupta
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Richard Hartmann wrote: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Philipp Hug wrote: > >> If we had DebConf15 chairs, they could be involved from the beginning >> without having to bother about DC14 at the same time > > This would make sense, imo. This is something the

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf governance & 'Debian Deutschland' name and TO status

2014-04-27 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Philipp Hug wrote: > If we had DebConf15 chairs, they could be involved from the beginning > without having to bother about DC14 at the same time This would make sense, imo. This is something the chairs could decide by themselves. I also note that for whatever

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf governance & 'Debian Deutschland' name and TO status

2014-04-27 Thread Philipp Hug
Hi Lucas, As you don't seem to willing to change the current frustrating setup, please consider the following 2 changes to it: * Delegation of chairs per DebConf period: Currently DC15 is in the hot phase of setting up and signing contracts and other important issues from Debian's PoV. At the sam

Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf governance & 'Debian Deutschland' name and TO status

2014-04-26 Thread Raphaƫl Walther
Hello Lucas, On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:37:29AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: [...] > As you know, there is an ongoing (slow) discussion about DebConf > governance. I believe that my position is best summarized by the excerpt > from the draft delegation below (for DebConf chairs): > > -