Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-10-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Bernelle Verster [2015-08-27 21:52 +1200]: > I've adapted the thread onto our Timeline [1], and copied relevant > bits below. […] Hey, I missed the original e-mail, sorry about this. I think the general timeline you propose looks good. There are a few comments, questions, suggestion

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-27 Thread Bernelle Verster
Hi all I'm supposed to be on holiday and offline, but I've started having dreams about this thread, so... I've adapted the thread onto our Timeline [1], and copied relevant bits below. I resisted the temptation to put this onto the wider timeline [2] as well, so we can test it first. Comments wel

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:38:34PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > I would even consider *not* calling it pre-registration, as that is > too close to "registration". Maybe "enrollment" instead? Other conferences just require that you have an account to submit proposals or request sponsorship. Why

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hey everyone, Thanks a lot for the interest and the support shown in this thread. It does seem that we are mostly in agreement regarding the timeline. It seems that we mostly need a better name for "pre-registration", and there are some doubts about the month for bursaries being or not enough tim

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Martín Ferrari
On 25/08/15 16:40, Richard Hartmann wrote: > Random thought: With that level of cash-flow, we could simply rent the > infrastructure DSA was talking about in their BoF instead of looking > for sponsors. As I said in person multiple times, I think having dependable equipment that infra and video k

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > But, for example, compare > https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors and > https://www.debian.org/partners/) Tossing this onto -project may detoriate quickly, but those numbers should be discussed at some point. Random thought: W

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2015-08-25 10:26 +0200]: > This sounds wrong to me. For me, the role of bursaries is to decide, for > a specific attendee, if s/he should be sponsored to attend or not. > That's a yes/no question (a hard one, but still). If you end up needing > more budget to cover the

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Hello Lucas, On 25.08.2015 11:48, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 25/08/15 at 11:37 +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: >> >> Note: food and accommodation is really a yes/no. But travel >> sponsorship, which requires a lot more money, is much more difficult. We >> will not have enough money, IMHO, for mos

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 25/08/15 at 11:37 +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > > > On 25.08.2015 10:26, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 25/08/15 at 09:11 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > >> One month for bursaries is tight, but doable if we are well prepared. 1 > >> 1/2 months would be better. It mostly needs someone to dr

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi [2015-08-25 11:35 +0200]: > Most of people with pre-registration are sponsored people. Other > people tend to register late, many non-sponsored attendes also > after (old) "reconfirmation" (and this was one source of > complain). This is true especially for profession

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach René Mayorga [2015-08-25 09:52 +0200]: > I agree with cate here, if you only submit a talk just for the > sake to be consider for travel sponsorship you are putting more > burden to talk selection. But isn't harder talk selection actually something to strive for, because it means that

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi [2015-08-25 08:10 +0200]: > > or people registering because we tell them to, but then never > > reconfirming, because they don't intend to attend anymore. > > I don’t follow it. I think we will have the same problem with > people not registering but with preregistrat

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
On 25.08.2015 10:26, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 25/08/15 at 09:11 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: >> One month for bursaries is tight, but doable if we are well prepared. 1 >> 1/2 months would be better. It mostly needs someone to drive the process >> as David did it this year. >> >> At the bursar

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 25/08/15 at 09:11 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > >> or people registering because we tell them to, but > >> then never reconfirming, because they don't intend to attend anymore. > > > > I don’t follow it. I think we will have the same problem with people > > not registering but with preregistr

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 25/08/15 at 10:42 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum writes: > >> > > >> > From past experience, the bursaries needs more than one months. The > >> > important part is travel sponsorship, especially for Cape Town, and this > >> > take much time. But let’s see commentary of bursa

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Hello Gaudenz, On 25.08.2015 09:11, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > > > Giacomo Catenazzi writes: > >> Hello Marga, >> >>> On 24 Aug 2015, at 23:48, Margarita Manterola >>> wrote: (...) >>> When the registration period opens, everyone needs to fill in all >>> their registration data (dates of atte

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Lucas Nussbaum writes: >> > >> > From past experience, the bursaries needs more than one months. The >> > important part is travel sponsorship, especially for Cape Town, and this >> > take much time. But let’s see commentary of bursaries team. (OTOH on your >> > timeline, we have 2 months befo

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread René Mayorga
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 08:10:13AM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > Hola :) > > > On 24 Aug 2015, at 23:48, Margarita Manterola > > wrote: > > > Regarding talks > (…) > > > This year we had the submission deadline in the middle of the > > reconfirmation process, which meant that approved tal

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Philip Hands
Gaudenz Steinlin writes: > Giacomo Catenazzi writes: > >> Hello Marga, >> >>> On 24 Aug 2015, at 23:48, Margarita Manterola >>> wrote: >> >> (…) >>> The pre-registration period is for people that are requesting >>> sponsorship or submitting event proposals. They would only express >>> their i

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Richard Hartmann
Fully agreed with Marga and Gaudenz' replies. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-25 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Giacomo Catenazzi writes: > Hello Marga, > >> On 24 Aug 2015, at 23:48, Margarita Manterola >> wrote: > > (…) >> The pre-registration period is for people that are requesting >> sponsorship or submitting event proposals. They would only express >> their intent on going to DebConf (and DebCam

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-24 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Hello Marga, > On 24 Aug 2015, at 23:48, Margarita Manterola > wrote: (…) > The pre-registration period is for people that are requesting > sponsorship or submitting event proposals. They would only express > their intent on going to DebConf (and DebCamp if applicable) and then > fill in the s

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-24 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Michael Banck [2015-08-25 00:05 +0200]: > I don't always top-post, but when I do it's to say I agree 100%. So do I! ;) -- .''`. martin f. krafft @martinkrafft : :' : DebConf orga team `. `'` `- DebConf16: Cape Town: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16 DebConf17 in

Re: [Debconf-team] [Coordination] Timeline changes proposal for DC16

2015-08-24 Thread Michael Banck
I don't always top-post, but when I do it's to say I agree 100%. Michael On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:48:14PM +0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: > We talked a bit about this during the DebConf Sprint that we had > during DebCamp and my feeling was that there was rough consensus about > it. I'm send