Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-06-11 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Hi, On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 02:53:37PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for your work on dc13 attendee sponsorship! Just one comment/question: > > On Dienstag, 14. Mai 2013, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > > Making the whle process fully public was already rejected in previous > > discussi

Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-06-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, thanks for your work on dc13 attendee sponsorship! Just one comment/question: On Dienstag, 14. Mai 2013, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Making the whle process fully public was already rejected in previous > discussions. I agree that this might be too much. ack > But to balance > accountability

Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-05-16 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud dijo [Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:31:54AM +0200]: > I think that this would be a too big hit on privacy of the beneficiaries of > travel sponsorship: the "amount-name" relationship is too sensitive to be > published. Publishing how much the Debian project gave to support who's >

Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-05-15 Thread Philip Hands
Gaudenz Steinlin writes: > IMHO the travel sponsorship rating process should stay as lightweight as > it is now. The process you propose just makes things much more > heavyweight. Very true, and that would be the main reason not to do it that way. It would be very easy to spend the time availab

Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-05-15 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Hi Philipp, Le mercredi, 15 mai 2013 10.53:24, Philipp Hug a écrit : > You probably misread Gaudenz's email. He was suggesting to publish > only the names without any amount or other details, which is > reasonable IMO. Indeed, thanks for pointing this out. As for the proposal, as mentionned, it's

Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-05-15 Thread Philipp Hug
Hi Didier, > Le mardi, 14 mai 2013 23.44:06, Gaudenz Steinlin a écrit : >> persons who were granted travel sponsorship (without amounts). > > I think that this would be a too big hit on privacy of the beneficiaries of > travel sponsorship: the "amount-name" relationship is too sensitive to be You

Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-05-15 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Hi Gaudenz, hi all, Le mardi, 14 mai 2013 23.44:06, Gaudenz Steinlin a écrit : > Making the whle process fully public was already rejected in previous > discussions. I agree that this might be too much. But to balance > accountability towards the project with the need for privacy for those > reque

Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-05-14 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Gaudenz Steinlin dijo [Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:44:06PM +0200]: > I agree that a diverse team of raters is important. And I also think > that we should avoid the case were the raters just self-nominate among > the core debconf-team. To avoid this we could launch a broder call for > help with rating

Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-05-14 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Hi Philip Hands writes: > Moray Allan writes: > >> On 2013-05-07 22:38, Gunnar Wolf wrote: >>> tiago_: h01ger, we from team were kind of accused of not being clear >>> about money allocation for travel sponsorship last year, so >>> I've been thinking that the team should take c

Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-05-14 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 07:51:32AM +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote: > The Herb Team *is* diverse and I think that the work we did last year > was very efficient and fair. I particularly thank David Bremner for > sustaining that work during the IRC meeting(s?) we had. I have just bought my train tic

Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-05-13 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Gunnar Wolf (gw...@gwolf.org): > Hi, > > After today's meeting, we idled a bit in the IRC channel exchanging > some ideas. Tiago talked on what he perceived to be the main > problematic that other DebConf attendees complained about, and he got > some people to answer, me among them. Afte

Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-05-12 Thread Philip Hands
Moray Allan writes: > On 2013-05-07 22:38, Gunnar Wolf wrote: >> tiago_: h01ger, we from team were kind of accused of not being clear >> about money allocation for travel sponsorship last year, so >> I've been thinking that the team should take care of >> procedures, but r

Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-05-11 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-05-07 22:38, Gunnar Wolf wrote: tiago_: h01ger, we from team were kind of accused of not being clear about money allocation for travel sponsorship last year, so I've been thinking that the team should take care of procedures, but rating should be done by (semi)rand

Re: [Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-05-08 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Hello, On 07.05.2013 23:38, Gunnar Wolf wrote: After today's meeting, we idled a bit in the IRC channel exchanging some ideas. Tiago talked on what he perceived to be the main problematic that other DebConf attendees complained about, and he got some people to answer, me among them. (...) I thi

[Debconf-team] Rethinking the way travel sponsorship works

2013-05-07 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Hi, After today's meeting, we idled a bit in the IRC channel exchanging some ideas. Tiago talked on what he perceived to be the main problematic that other DebConf attendees complained about, and he got some people to answer, me among them. So, I'll basically paste the IRC log — excuse me for bei