Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-22 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Anthony Towns [2014-09-22 05:13 +0200]: > FWIW, I think most BoFs could actually be usefully backed by > a "survey"-type paper -- ie, one that provided background info on > the topic that would help someone who's interested, but not fully > up to date, to participate usefully in the Bo

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On 22 September 2014 02:53, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > martin f krafft dijo [Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 09:20:12AM +0200]: >> also sprach Gunnar Wolf [2014-09-21 03:48 +0200]: >> > If we could in some way recover the practice to prepare a small >> > paper for a talk presentation, I think the aspects we are >

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:46:27AM -0400, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:13:30AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Ana Guerrero Lopez [2014-09-16 22:19 +0200]: > > For bursaries, we had a simple interface allowing us to vote on each > > participant with betwe

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Gunnar Wolf [2014-09-21 18:55 +0200]: > In the end, we ended up (as always) with enough content for 80 good > talks. Some were better than others, of course. But I don't feel > DebConf has to tighten its selection process due to accepting too many > mediocre talks. I wasn't suggesting

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-21 Thread Allison Randal
On 09/21/2014 10:15 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > I'll suggest something contrary here - I *don't* think we should even > try. DebConf is *not* a typical academic conference where people are > presenting state-of-the-art research to a very wide community who are > otherwise disinterested. It's a m

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-21 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:53:15AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: >martin f krafft dijo [Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 09:20:12AM +0200]: >> also sprach Gunnar Wolf [2014-09-21 03:48 +0200]: >> > If we could in some way recover the practice to prepare a small >> > paper for a talk presentation, I think the aspe

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
martin f krafft dijo [Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 09:24:34AM +0200]: > also sprach Gunnar Wolf [2014-09-21 03:51 +0200]: > > We announced the first batch of accepted talks early on because > > CfP response was coming in *very* slow. We feared we would end up > > with ~80 slots and... ~20 talks. That woul

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
martin f krafft dijo [Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 09:20:12AM +0200]: > also sprach Gunnar Wolf [2014-09-21 03:48 +0200]: > > If we could in some way recover the practice to prepare a small > > paper for a talk presentation, I think the aspects we are > > discussing would surely get better. But I don't kn

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Gunnar Wolf [2014-09-21 03:51 +0200]: > We announced the first batch of accepted talks early on because > CfP response was coming in *very* slow. We feared we would end up > with ~80 slots and... ~20 talks. That would clearly not be good. Why not? 20 good talks would be much better th

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Gunnar Wolf [2014-09-21 03:48 +0200]: > If we could in some way recover the practice to prepare a small > paper for a talk presentation, I think the aspects we are > discussing would surely get better. But I don't know how we can > require people to prepare a paper. For many subjects,

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-20 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Michael Banck dijo [Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 02:03:29PM +0200]: > > also sprach Anthony Towns [2014-09-19 13:37 +0200]: > > > An alternative approach: just reject any talks with poor descriptions. > > > Try to tell submitters early if their description isn't good enough -- > > > maybe give them a shor

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-20 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Anthony Towns dijo [Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:37:15PM +1000]: > >> * We must find a way to make submitters to make better talks > >> descriptions. Bad or incomplete talks description made to waste > >> a lot of time to both the talks team and attendees. > > Yeah, I can see this very well. We should m

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Banck
[adding the talks team (back) to the CC list] On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 01:49:26PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Anthony Towns [2014-09-19 13:37 +0200]: > > An alternative approach: just reject any talks with poor descriptions. > > Try to tell submitters early if their description isn

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-19 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Anthony Towns [2014-09-19 13:37 +0200]: > Would some sort of wiki-ish approach to talk proposals be > possible? ie, let people propose talk ideas publically, with the > ability for other people to help improve the description, add > suggestions or correct typos before the talk review h

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-19 Thread Anthony Towns
On 18 September 2014 19:13, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Ana Guerrero Lopez [2014-09-16 22:19 +0200]: >> * We must find a way to make submitters to make better talks >> descriptions. Bad or incomplete talks description made to waste >> a lot of time to both the talks team and attendees. >

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-18 Thread Steve McIntyre
Several diverging comments below: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:13:30AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: >also sprach Ana Guerrero Lopez [2014-09-16 22:19 +0200]: > >> * Publishing the list of accepted talks ahead and taking the time >> to schedule seems to be a good idea. There are plenty of people >>

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-18 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:13:30AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Ana Guerrero Lopez [2014-09-16 22:19 +0200]: > For bursaries, we had a simple interface allowing us to vote on each > participant with between -3 and +3 points. This would be trivial to > do for events too, I guess. >

Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-18 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ana Guerrero Lopez [2014-09-16 22:19 +0200]: > * We must find a way to make submitters to make better talks > descriptions. Bad or incomplete talks description made to waste > a lot of time to both the talks team and attendees. Yeah, I can see this very well. We should make sure that

[Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

2014-09-16 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Hi everybody, This is a quick summary of how the talks team worked this year. This mail only describes the talk selection process and scheduling. The scheduling of the ad-hoc talks was done by Michael Banck so we'll let him comment on this regard. Also, some personal comments from members of the