Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-31 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Holger Levsen writes: > On Montag, 28. Januar 2013, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: >> * People should be able to select their room mates. > > IMO this is wrong/impractial: it would be nice to have if people are able to > select their room mates. And we try to. But its not a should or must. While readi

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-31 Thread Philip Hands
Daniel Pocock writes: > Holger Levsen wrote: > >>On Montag, 28. Januar 2013, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: >>> * People should be able to select their room mates. >> >>IMO this is wrong/impractial: it would be nice to have if people are >>able to >>select their room mates. And we try to. But its not a

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-31 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
On 31.01.2013 13:46, Daniel Pocock wrote: Holger Levsen wrote: On Montag, 28. Januar 2013, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: * People should be able to select their room mates. IMO this is wrong/impractial: it would be nice to have if people are able to select their room mates. And we try to. But i

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-31 Thread Holger Levsen
On Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2013, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2013, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Could you elaborate? > no. [...] of course I _could_, but I'm not gonna work in a dysfunctional team. Life's too short to waste it. ___ Deb

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-31 Thread Holger Levsen
On Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2013, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Could you elaborate? no. [...] ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-31 Thread Daniel Pocock
Holger Levsen wrote: >On Montag, 28. Januar 2013, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: >> * People should be able to select their room mates. > >IMO this is wrong/impractial: it would be nice to have if people are >able to >select their room mates. And we try to. But its not a should or must. > > Could yo

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-31 Thread Holger Levsen
On Montag, 28. Januar 2013, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > * People should be able to select their room mates. IMO this is wrong/impractial: it would be nice to have if people are able to select their room mates. And we try to. But its not a should or must.

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-29 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
On 28.01.2013 23:37, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Manual room assignment + Very flexible + Already tried and working (but not for a venue like Le Camp with different room categories) - A lot of work Not really: there are few rooms and in this case we should not minimize also the costs (the numb

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-28 Thread Gunnar Wolf
FWIW, I've been very DebConf-inactive lately... I am not happy with the situation, and intend to change it soon, but have been able to get out of the timesink :( > > >> After looking at all those, I think we should try to adapt hoteldruid to > > >> our needs; the fact that it is already in Debian

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-28 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Hi We discussed the Online booking vs. manual room assignment question yesterday during our meeting. We tried to look at it from a different angle and to define what we have to guarantee from the participants point of view and how this can be achieved with or without an online booking system. *

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-24 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 01/24/2013 07:31 PM, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Leandro Gómez writes: >> As someone who was involved with the room allocation for dc12 I have to >> agree with cate. Manual allocation is not perfect, but it'll do a better >> job than implementing a room registration system, even if we end up usin

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-24 Thread Leandro Gómez
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Leandro Gómez writes: > > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > > > >> Daniel Pocock writes: > >> > >> > On 23/01/13 18:17, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > >> >> Daniel Pocock writes: > >> >> > >> >>> Philipp Hug wrote:

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-24 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
On 01/23/2013 08:54 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > Daniel Pocock writes: >> >> The only risk is that people have to accept that if they don't organise >> themselves into a group for a room, they will be allocated to any >> available bed at random on arrival - but thanks to the stock-level >> mechanism,

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-24 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Leandro Gómez writes: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > >> Daniel Pocock writes: >> >> > On 23/01/13 18:17, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: >> >> Daniel Pocock writes: >> >> >> >>> Philipp Hug wrote: >> >>> >> > choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-24 Thread Leandro Gómez
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > Daniel Pocock writes: > > > On 23/01/13 18:17, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > >> Daniel Pocock writes: > >> > >>> Philipp Hug wrote: > >>> > > choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster. > > I don't think we sh

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:35:05PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Has anyone that's been responsible for doing the room allocation bit of > > debconf actually contributed any views to any of these threads yet? > > That would be good - but also remember that every DebConf is different. > This one

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 23/01/13 20:54, Philip Hands wrote: > Daniel Pocock writes: > >> On 23/01/13 18:17, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: >>> Daniel Pocock writes: >>> Philipp Hug wrote: >> choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster. > > I don't think we should automatically assi

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Philip Hands
Daniel Pocock writes: > On 23/01/13 18:17, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: >> Daniel Pocock writes: >> >>> Philipp Hug wrote: >>> > choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster. I don't think we should automatically assign rooms. It's better if we let the attendees

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 23/01/13 18:17, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Daniel Pocock writes: > >> Philipp Hug wrote: >> choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster. >>> >>> I don't think we should automatically assign rooms. >>> It's better if we let the attendees choose their own room according

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Daniel Pocock writes: > Philipp Hug wrote: > >>> choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster. >> >>I don't think we should automatically assign rooms. >>It's better if we let the attendees choose their own room according to >>availability. >> > > Can we come up with some solut

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Daniel Pocock
Philipp Hug wrote: >> choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster. > >I don't think we should automatically assign rooms. >It's better if we let the attendees choose their own room according to >availability. > Can we come up with some solution where people pay and then mana

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Philipp Hug
> choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster. I don't think we should automatically assign rooms. It's better if we let the attendees choose their own room according to availability. But I'm against doing it manually, because: * It's a lot of work to track all the room assignm

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mercredi, 23 janvier 2013 11.47:59, Giacomo Catenazzi a écrit : > On 23.01.2013 09:01, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > >> After looking at all those, I think we should try to adapt hoteldruid to > >> our needs; the fact that it is already in Debian is certainly a plus > >> (even if we might need t

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mittwoch, 23. Januar 2013, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > So I think that manual allocation will do a better (and fairer) job. [...] > To conclude: I don't think automatic means more fair. fully agreed. choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster. ___

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
On 23.01.2013 09:01, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le lundi, 21 janvier 2013 19.44:59, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit : - hoteldruid http://www.hoteldruid.com/ Last-Release: 2012-12-11 (…) After looking at all those, I think we should try to adapt hoteldruid to our needs; the fact t

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-22 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le lundi, 21 janvier 2013 19.44:59, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit : > - hoteldruid > http://www.hoteldruid.com/ > Last-Release: 2012-12-11 > (…) > > After looking at all those, I think we should try to adapt hoteldruid to > our needs; the fact that it is already in Debian is certainly a

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-22 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Holger Levsen writes: > Hi, > > On Montag, 21. Januar 2013, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: >> in the context of using an online "rooms" booking system, here's the result >> of my investigation: >> >> In Debian: >> >> - hoteldruid >> http://www.hoteldruid.com/ > [...] >> After looking at all t

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-21 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Hi Holger, Le mardi, 22 janvier 2013 01.04:03, Holger Levsen a écrit : > having proper software for talk selection seems way more useful to me. I think these are not mutually exclusive. > +conference mgmt too. Making sure we provide hosting in a fair manner is a way to manage the conference to

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 21. Januar 2013, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > in the context of using an online "rooms" booking system, here's the result > of my investigation: > > In Debian: > > - hoteldruid > http://www.hoteldruid.com/ [...] > After looking at all those, I think we should try to adapt h

[Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-21 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Hi all, in the context of using an online "rooms" booking system, here's the result of my investigation: In Debian: - hoteldruid http://www.hoteldruid.com/ Last-Release: 2012-12-11 Not in Debian: - MRBS http://mrbs.sourceforge.net/ Last-Release: 2012-10 - GRR