Hi,
On 13/02/17 at 13:45 -0500, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> *Budgeted expenses*:
>
>8,000 CADcontent
What's that?
I did not see anything about a daytrip, is that on purpose? (I haven't
followed discussions closely, so maybe there's no daytrip and I haven't
noticed ;) )
L
Hi,
On 11/02/17 at 14:44 -0500, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> Hmm, yes but only in French. Here's an estimate from what I recall:
>
> * D-2632A: ~40
> * Salle d’exposition (B-2209): ~10
> * Jardin: ~100 (highly depends on where/how people sit)
> * Typical class: ~35-40
> * Vivoir (B-2210): ~2
On 10/02/17 at 11:25 -0500, Jerome Charaoui wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Next Tuesday Louis-Philippe and I will be meeting the venue manager for
> what we hope will be the final round of negotiations before we go ahead
> and sign the contract.
>
> We intend to raise objections and demand clarification fo
Hi,
I just read
https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf18/Bids/Hsinchu, and have a few
questions.
Most importantly, how does one pronounce Hsinchu? :-)
Venue/Transport:
The "Transportation to NCTU" pdf is not clear to me. By "airport", does
it mean "Taoyuan International Airport" (TPE) ?
It would
Hi Jerome,
On 10/01/17 at 10:30 -0500, Jerome Charaoui wrote:
> Here is the current (final?) draft:
> https://debconf17-owncloud.univers-libre.net/index.php/s/F2v2hf4DsULnC9w
A few questions/comments from someone who hasn't been following DC17
orga very closely. So answers to my questions might b
On 12/11/15 at 08:47 +1300, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Allison Randal [2015-10-21 09:16 +1300]:
> > I'm good with that description from 2011. No idea how we ended up
> > where we are today from that point, it was so sane and sensible.
>
> IIRC: The 2011 delegation stems from efforts to
On 22/10/15 at 07:01 +1300, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2015-10-20 19:49 +1300]:
> > Given that the chairs are supposed to protect the Debian Project
> > from serious issues with DebConf organization,
>
> This concern seems to be at the root of bo
On 20/10/15 at 15:55 +0200, Daniel Lange wrote:
> >2) move the chairs selection process from designation by the DPL to
> >election by the DebConf team. Given that the chairs are supposed to
> >protect the Debian Project from serious issues with DebConf
> >organization, I find it backward that the D
On 19/10/15 at 22:49 +0200, Daniel Lange wrote:
> Dear team,
>
> as you may be aware the DebConf chairs have resigned two weeks ago.
> I have had many discussions before and during DC15 with chairs and other
> long time DebConf contributors about how to improve the DebConf
> organization.
> I also
On 28/09/15 at 11:49 +0300, Martín Ferrari wrote:
> On 23/09/15 18:59, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
> > I haven't followed the current debate closely, so I won't comment on any
> > specifics, except:
> > On 23/09/15 at 13:15 +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> >>
On 27/09/15 at 23:33 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Joerg Jaspert dijo [Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 09:23:48AM +0200]:
> > On 14073 March 1977, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> >
> > > With the current models, ideally, the Chairs would:
> > [...]
> > > - not be too invo
Hi,
I think that it's useful to go back to the motivations for the delegation,
and to what is actually written in it. I somehow have the impression
that lots of people are talking about the chairs delegation without
having taken a recent, deep look at it.
You would have to ask Zack for his exact
On 25/08/15 at 20:22 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> So how does the following process sound?
>
> 1. Bursaries (and all other teams for themselves) gauges the
> amount of money they'd like to have in their budget. This
> is difficult and will take a few iterations, especially since
>
On 25/08/15 at 15:24 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> During early DC15 discussions, you didn't want to set aside even as
> much as 5k for our idea of "assured travel sponsorship". We ended up
> boosting the travel sponsorship budget by 3k out of our own cash
> flow. Bursaries worked within this bud
On 25/08/15 at 11:37 +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
>
>
> On 25.08.2015 10:26, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > On 25/08/15 at 09:11 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> >> One month for bursaries is tight, but doable if we are well prepared. 1
> >> 1/2 months would be b
On 25/08/15 at 09:11 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> >> or people registering because we tell them to, but
> >> then never reconfirming, because they don't intend to attend anymore.
> >
> > I don’t follow it. I think we will have the same problem with people
> > not registering but with preregistr
On 25/08/15 at 10:42 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> Lucas Nussbaum writes:
> >> >
> >> > From past experience, the bursaries needs more than one months. The
> >> > important part is travel sponsorship, especially for Cape Town, and this
> >>
Hi,
On 23/03/15 at 16:45 -0400, Tassia Camoes Araujo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:44:37AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> >
> > At this point, I think that the question I am (as DPL) being asked, is
> > whether we all can go forward given t
Hi Martin,
Thanks a lot for all your work, and for dealing with the required amount
of bikeshedding (especially mine).
At this point, I think that the question I am (as DPL) being asked, is
whether we all can go forward given the current status and those
projections, and deal with the possible fa
On 12/03/15 at 19:33 +, Philip Hands wrote:
> martin f krafft writes:
>
> ...
> >> Before we commit to expenses that I see as optional from the point
> >> of view of the "success for the Debian project" metric, I would
> >> like to make sure that the sponsorship budget is covered.
> ...
> > G
My main interest is to ensure that DC15 is the most successful for the
Debian project. For that, one of the main conditions is that enough
contributors can attend the event. That's why the sponsorship budget is
so important to me: to put it bluntly, I don't care if DC15 will be very
enjoyable for i
On 12/03/15 at 13:28 +0100, David Bremner wrote:
> Lucas Nussbaum writes:
> >
> > I would prefer to hear from bursaries before we decide to direct funds
> > to some of the items in the base case scenario.
> >
>
> Just to be clear, do you mean you want
On 12/03/15 at 12:26 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2015-03-12 11:32 +0100]:
> > OK, then, provided the chairs agree as well (as they know more
> > about the details than myself), I think I'm fine with all the
> > expenses listed in the &q
On 12/03/15 at 10:18 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2015-03-12 09:49 +0100]:
> > I think that we should clarify what 'budget approval' means, maybe. From
> > my perspective, it means:
> > - Chairs and DPL have looked at it, and are fine
On 11/03/15 at 20:49 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2015-03-11 18:53 +0100]:
> > > Do you have a maximum amount of Debian funds you can allocate to
> > > bursaries to do their work when they have sighted the
> > > applications in April?
On 11/03/15 at 17:55 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2015-03-11 16:50 +0100]:
> > I agree that for making the final decision about who will get
> > sponsored, a travel sponsorship budget is needed. But I don't see
> > why you need to know the
On 11/03/15 at 15:50 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2015-03-11 15:06 +0100]:
> > Maybe, but is that a discussion that we need to have now, or can
> > we have it after the bursaries team will have looked at
> > applications?
>
> Well, ca
On 11/03/15 at 14:48 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2015-03-11 13:59 +0100]:
> > > There is a position in the budget (backed travel sponsorship),
> > > which is currently 0. Feel free to pour any Debian funds into
> > > it. Just
On 11/03/15 at 13:16 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2015-03-11 11:18 +0100]:
> > My other question is about the travel sponsorship amount. 30k€ seems
> > quite low to me. How does it compare to past years?
>
> DC14 : 45k USD incl. newbies ini
On 11/03/15 at 10:45 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2015-03-11 10:08 +0100]:
> > - there are no additional sponsors besides those already secured
> > - we stick to the current levels for most expenses, except for items
> > you consider
Hi Martin,
On 10/03/15 at 21:27 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Thanks for all the feedback on the budget. I've updated the version
> in Git, so please obtain the ODS file from here:
>
> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/debconf-data/dc15.git/tree/budget/budget.ods
>
> I refrain fr
Hi,
Thanks for this impressive work. It's nice how it looks very fair
and very simple at the same time.
On 21/02/15 at 14:46 +0100, David Bremner wrote:
> h) In case we need to fund a partial "cohort", we need some way to order
>the cohort. We could sort that cohort according to contribution
Hi,
I was in Cape Town in May 2010 for a conference. I very much enjoyed it,
and I would love to return there.
However, one thing that worries me a bit in the context of DebConf is
the safety of attendees when outside the venue (e.g. walking between the
venue and accomodation). My understanding f
On 16/10/14 at 12:06 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2014-10-16 11:24 +0200]:
> > > What's the difference between what you suggest and Debian just
> > > committing (up to) y from the start, given that any surplus comes
> > > back to D
On 15/10/14 at 17:07 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> > So from my point of view, in reality approving the DebConf budget
> > is not so much about saying "Debian agrees to contribute up to x".
> > It's more about saying "Debian agrees to contribute up to x, and,
> > given the overall budget, is prep
Hi,
I think that the root of our disagreement is that you are discussing how
things should be in an ideal world. Unfortunately, things are rarely
in an ideal state in Debian, and that's what often makes Debian so fun
and so frustrating at the same time.
I fully agree with you that in an ideal wor
On 14/10/14 at 16:46 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2014-10-14 14:25 +0200]:
> > - budget team sends the budget to debconf chairs for review (and
> > possibly integrates feedback)
> > - the debconf chairs forward the budget to the D
Hi,
I'm moving here a discussion that started on IRC about the budget
approval process.
First, I'd like to state that we need to be a bit flexible about the
budget. We will only have the final budget (final numbers) after DC15.
We don't know yet how much will be raised, nor how many attendees the
Hi,
On 12/10/14 at 03:57 +0200, gregor herrmann wrote:
> > - In the slightly longer term, should we make subteam leads
> > automatically/ex-officio become members of the DebConf Committee, for venue
> > decisions etc.?
>
> Yes.
> I'd even scratch the comittee and replace it by The DebConf Team
>
Hi,
On 19/08/14 at 13:24 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> I fully side with Steve in thinking that the delegation was
> a mistake and set you all up for misery. We should fix much more
> than filling in vacant positions for unclear roles in an
> organisational structure that evidently isn't up to t
Hi,
On 16/08/14 at 14:46 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> I pointedly asked you in our private discussions: what problem are you
> trying to solve by appointing additional DebConf chairs?
>
> You did not respond to this question.
>
> Instead, you have delegated new chairs, reproducing the previous
Hi,
On 11/08/14 at 20:22 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:14:13PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > On 09/08/14 at 23:21 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > > On Samstag, 9. August 2014, Moray Allan wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 04:18:14P
Hi,
On 09/08/14 at 23:21 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Samstag, 9. August 2014, Moray Allan wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 04:18:14PM -0400, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
> > > The DebConf Videoteam requests a budget increase for DebConf 14.
> > >
> > > Shipping cost Chicago <-> Po
Hi,
On 20/05/14 at 14:26 +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> is there anything more I can (or need to) do?
No, that's on my TO-DO list now.
Thanks,
Lucas
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Hi,
On 03/05/14 at 10:54 +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
> > As you already described how you met the TO criteria in
> > ,
> > I think that we can safely say that the minimum two weeks discussion
> > period s
On 02/05/14 at 19:47 +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> as announced some time ago, we will incorporate DebConfDeutschland
> e.V. tomorrow.
>
> All founding members will be DDs with the full list being sent as a
> reply to this email after the fact.
>
>
> Given that:
>
> * We will
Hi,
As you know, both Holger and Gunnar stepped down from their role as
DebConf chairs. I would like to warmly thank them both for their
contributions to DebConf organization, and I hope to see them around,
maybe a bit more relaxed, at DC14!
There's also an ongoing discussion on DebConf governanc
Hi,
On 26/04/14 at 23:42 +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> 2. The organization should remain loyal to Debian
>
> See 1.
> Going against Debian's best interest now or in the future would not
> only be stupid beyond description, it would also wipe out our
> collective reputations and remove the comm
On 26/04/14 at 23:42 +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> Before anyone raises this point: Yes, we tried contacting[1] FFIS, but
> they have not even answered in more than four weeks; we are not
> confident that they would be more reactive going forward and do not
> consider them an option any more.
>
On 26/04/14 at 15:32 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> But when we agreed to run for DC15, there was no indication about
> top-down control. There's the delegation mail, and there's
> https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DecisionMaking#DebConf_Chairs.3F, but
> these rather draw the picture that the chairs a
On 26/04/14 at 12:45 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2014-04-26 11:37 +0200]:
> > 1) Respective governance & decision making of DebConf, DC15 and
> >the DC15 legal entity
> >
> > As you know, there is an ongoing (slow) discussion
Hi,
Adding auditors to Cc, and quoting in full.
On 25/04/14 at 17:51 +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> Dear Lucas,
>
> there have been discussions about the status of the DebConf 15 legal
> entity and its status towards Debian.
>
> The two points of contention are
>
> a) handling Debian's money
Hi,
There has been various questions raised about several topics related to
DebConf15 organization. I'm trying to wrap-up a single answer covering all
questions.
Sorry for not replying earlier. I was travelling during the past week, and
ended up having much less free time than I expected. I shoul
On 27/03/14 at 12:45 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> So in the discussion with the DPL, it remains undecided whether the DebConf
> newbies initiative will be renewed with a specific earmark. For the moment
> I've left this as a single $32k line item in the budget for all travel
> sponsorship; we ca
On 02/10/13 at 06:50 -0700, Patty Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 11:08:53PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
> > An option could be to organise a few focused sprints in Portland just
> > before DebConf. Given that it's a good way to minimize travel costs,
> &
On 01/10/13 at 12:19 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 12:59:04PM -0600, Norman García Aguilar wrote:
> > > In fact, wiki.debconf.org seems like a nice place to record such things.
> > > ;)
> > > I've created a blank page with some open questions; I would appreciate it
> > >
On 21/08/13 at 06:13 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Hi Lucas,
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:20:01AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > [ It sounds a bit strange to raise this after a DebConf that happened in
> > such a friendly and welcoming atmosphere, but still ...
Hi,
[ It sounds a bit strange to raise this after a DebConf that happened in
such a friendly and welcoming atmosphere, but still ... ]
This came up during a discussion with Patty Langasek, who is one of the
members of the antiharassm...@debian.org alias:
Do we have a process for taking measure
On 23/07/13 at 12:20 +0200, Philipp Hug wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Now, as a matter of full honesty; by looking at the detailed budget
> > source, I see that the amounts were as follows: 50 CHF / person for
> > DayTrip, 30 CHF / person for Conference Dinner; both multiplied by 348
> > unique attendees.
>
>
On 30/05/13 at 13:32 +0200, Philipp Hug wrote:
> Hi Lucas,
>
> As promised, I'll send you the budget for DebConf and DebCamp for review
> and approval.
> This is the same budget as sent on May 23th and there have been no requests
> for changes so far.
>
> Could you please review the budget and ap
On 23/05/13 at 19:44 +0200, Philipp Hug wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We just committed a new version of the budget to svn, which includes
> DebCamp and other additional expenses, see:
> http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debconf-data/dc13/accounting/
>
> The following changes were made to the budget:
> * DebCo
Hi,
On 07/05/13 at 16:45 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Nicolas Dandrimont dijo [Mon, May 06, 2013 at 09:36:15PM +0200]:
> > I'm CC:'ing Lucas to make sure that we will be able to get the students'
> > travel
> > sponsored another way: we should be able to ask Google for part of it (in
> > the
> >
On 10/04/13 at 10:07 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 05:14:58PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> > But as always it depends on having some well known speakers.
> > That where the 3k for external speakers should go. If we don't need them
> > and get well known and good speakers
Hi,
>From my limited understanding of the situation, the current ideal plan
would be to reserve all of LeCamp for both DebCamp and DebConf. While it
really makes sense for DebConf, I'm not so sure about DebCamp: usually,
the number of attendees increases gradually through the week, so a large
numb
Hi,
On 29/10/12 at 00:41 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> * which is not so personal at all: what to do (exactly) when we reach >300
> people... because until then the "idea" was: big tents were lots of people
> sleep. (Which I think is basically a bad idea and not really camping nor
> nice...)
>
On 28/10/12 at 16:03 +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
>
> Hi Richard
>
> Thanks for your budget. Just two notes:
>
> - The minimum price is not per week but for the whole event. So we can
> use the nights we don't use during DebCamp for DebConf. This
> significantly reduces the costs.
> - Our
On 03/09/12 at 15:33 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> On 03/09/12 08:33, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
> > I think that the sponsorship committee should:
> > 1) verify that the funding asked for is adequate (given the expected
> >travel costs from the originating country)
>
On 03/09/12 at 11:08 -0300, David Bremner wrote:
> Holger Levsen writes:
>
> > On Montag, 3. September 2012, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> >> I think that the sponsorship committee should:
> >> 2) rank demands based on *benefit of attendance for Debian*.
> >
>
On 02/09/12 at 21:24 -0300, David Bremner wrote:
> Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
>
> > Agreed. What's interesting is the ratio between the income and the
> > amount requested, not any of both absolute numbers. What I envision is
> > a list ordered by "days of work needed to produce the money I
> >
[ agreed with everything you wrote ]
On 22/07/11 at 16:33 +0200, Steve Langasek wrote:
> That's it. There's no reason, with a proper decision making process, for
> the sponsorship committee to even *know* the total travel costs of the
> attendees - and the fact that this is part of the informatio
On 21/07/11 at 04:56 -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:
> I'd certainly be curious to hear more about the logistics of how Canonical
> does
> that for UDS. Is Canonical's travel agency also used for attendees who are not
> asking Canonical to pay for their travel? How does the process work for
> whoev
On 20/07/11 at 22:10 -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 03:18:03AM +0200, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > When is the travel sponsorship process going to be fixed to stop asking
> > about total travel costs vs. sponsored travel costs, and instead focus on
> > what's im
On 07/07/11 at 15:28 +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote:
> Idea about Shuttles/Buses going from Zagreb to Banja Luka has been
> killed and therefor cancelled. It was fairly complicated and would
> only generate additional costs, but nor was your response about this
> whole idea so great.
Hi,
I'm wondering
On 23/08/10 at 06:34 +1200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On su, 2010-08-22 at 14:23 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > I think it's totally reasonable to use our projects funds wisely. That is,
> > if
> > you get or apply for travel sponsorship, to help looking for good prices.
>
> Given that finding go
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